Seraven wrote:Is it possible for French monarchy to be restored?
Yes, but not terribly likely.
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by Nakena » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:47 am
Ardoki wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:Prior to Wilhelm II, the German monarchy had some executive power, but Wilhelm's power expanded greatly over the course of his reign, becoming semi-autocratic.
The British monarchy's power fluctuated throughout its history as well.
Both still technically constitutional though?
What is the point of absolute monarchies, when a monarch can achieve almost the same level of power while technically being constitutional? I'm guessing believing in a divine right to rule plays a part?
by Frievolk » Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:13 am
Seraven wrote:Is it possible for French monarchy to be restored?
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by Hammer Britannia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:21 am
Seraven wrote:Is it possible for French monarchy to be restored?
by Seraven » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:57 pm
The Alma Mater wrote:Seraven wrote:I know right! Whites enslaved the natives, they killed them, they converted them forcibly, they acted like a better human beings than the Muslims.
An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P
by Frievolk » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:15 pm
♔ The Frievolker Empire || Frievolker Kaiserreik ♔
♔ The Realm in the Sun || De Reik in de Sonne ♔
♔ Led by Kaiser Johann, Part of the Erstwelt ♔
Never forget that the Muslims literally made up a new meaningless name for him when they forgot the name of Adam's Firstborn.
by Diopolis » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:55 pm
Frievolk wrote:Seraven wrote:
Hmm, I am not sure with the Germans, though. Has there been any indications of the remains of Wilhelm's descendants?
Well, I mean there is a heir to the Hohenzollern dynasty. Also to various other dynasties that ruled the smaller states in the German Empire, but that's not even the point. Iirc, the latest censuses (censi?) showed something along the lines of 2 out of every 5 Germans somewhat supporting a restoration (similar in Austria, a lot more in Russia). French heirs (either the legitimists, the orleanists, or the Bonapartes) have way less popularity than that.
by Reikoku » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:29 pm
Diopolis wrote:Frievolk wrote:Well, I mean there is a heir to the Hohenzollern dynasty. Also to various other dynasties that ruled the smaller states in the German Empire, but that's not even the point. Iirc, the latest censuses (censi?) showed something along the lines of 2 out of every 5 Germans somewhat supporting a restoration (similar in Austria, a lot more in Russia). French heirs (either the legitimists, the orleanists, or the Bonapartes) have way less popularity than that.
French monarchists are also divided up amongst themselves.
by Engleberg » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:09 pm
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by Diopolis » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:11 pm
Frievolk wrote:Seraven wrote:
Hmm, I am not sure with the Germans, though. Has there been any indications of the remains of Wilhelm's descendants?
Well, I mean there is a heir to the Hohenzollern dynasty. Also to various other dynasties that ruled the smaller states in the German Empire, but that's not even the point. Iirc, the latest censuses (censi?) showed something along the lines of 2 out of every 5 Germans somewhat supporting a restoration (similar in Austria, a lot more in Russia). French heirs (either the legitimists, the orleanists, or the Bonapartes) have way less popularity than that.
by Trumptonium1 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:21 pm
Diopolis wrote:Frievolk wrote:Well, I mean there is a heir to the Hohenzollern dynasty. Also to various other dynasties that ruled the smaller states in the German Empire, but that's not even the point. Iirc, the latest censuses (censi?) showed something along the lines of 2 out of every 5 Germans somewhat supporting a restoration (similar in Austria, a lot more in Russia). French heirs (either the legitimists, the orleanists, or the Bonapartes) have way less popularity than that.
Isn't the german monarchist movement currently dominated by neonazis trying to avoid persecution under anti-nazi laws by claiming to be monarchists instead?
I could see Hungary restoring their monarchy before Austria, tbh.
by Bienenhalde » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:27 pm
by Kubra » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:25 pm
monarchism always seems fine and dandy until one has to get into particulars, such as who ought to get the crown.
by Auze » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:46 pm
by Kubra » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:53 pm
Well hey at least those debates are one of policy, rather than "is it more embarassing to be ruled by an inbred austrian or a pompous frenchman?"
by Kubra » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:04 pm
Oh, that's a young man's game. The old have the good sense to leave off the matter, apart from the old people who coined it and its worst aspects (looking at you, Engels).
by Frievolk » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:57 pm
Diopolis wrote:Frievolk wrote:Well, I mean there is a heir to the Hohenzollern dynasty. Also to various other dynasties that ruled the smaller states in the German Empire, but that's not even the point. Iirc, the latest censuses (censi?) showed something along the lines of 2 out of every 5 Germans somewhat supporting a restoration (similar in Austria, a lot more in Russia). French heirs (either the legitimists, the orleanists, or the Bonapartes) have way less popularity than that.
Isn't the german monarchist movement currently dominated by neonazis trying to avoid persecution under anti-nazi laws by claiming to be monarchists instead?
I could see Hungary restoring their monarchy before Austria, tbh.
♔ The Frievolker Empire || Frievolker Kaiserreik ♔
♔ The Realm in the Sun || De Reik in de Sonne ♔
♔ Led by Kaiser Johann, Part of the Erstwelt ♔
Never forget that the Muslims literally made up a new meaningless name for him when they forgot the name of Adam's Firstborn.
by Autarkheia » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:15 am
by Frievolk » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:46 am
Autarkheia wrote:I'm confused how neo-Nazis could claim to be monarchists when Nazi Germany didn't have a monarchy, even a symbolic one. It would be easier to do what crypto-fascists always do and just claim to be a "nationalist", or even a "conservative".
♔ The Frievolker Empire || Frievolker Kaiserreik ♔
♔ The Realm in the Sun || De Reik in de Sonne ♔
♔ Led by Kaiser Johann, Part of the Erstwelt ♔
Never forget that the Muslims literally made up a new meaningless name for him when they forgot the name of Adam's Firstborn.
by Diopolis » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:38 pm
Autarkheia wrote:I'm confused how neo-Nazis could claim to be monarchists when Nazi Germany didn't have a monarchy, even a symbolic one. It would be easier to do what crypto-fascists always do and just claim to be a "nationalist", or even a "conservative".
by Salus Maior » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:02 pm
Frievolk wrote:Autarkheia wrote:I'm confused how neo-Nazis could claim to be monarchists when Nazi Germany didn't have a monarchy, even a symbolic one. It would be easier to do what crypto-fascists always do and just claim to be a "nationalist", or even a "conservative".
The Nazi Germany supposedly supported the Monarchy (I mean, not enough to go the Mussolini route and have one be the emperor as figurehead but anyway) and a lot of the German Royalty also supported the Nazis (again, only insofar as their own way of life wasn't threatened. Crown prince Wilhelm was an exception)
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