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Kringalia
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Postby Kringalia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:37 pm

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:I'm suggesting that the result is perhaps decided before you might have had a chance to fully consider it

That's not how we do things in the judiciary. As the only branch of government required to take an oath of office, we take our responsibility very seriously.
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Postby Guy » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:35 am

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
Kringalia wrote:In complete honesty, I do that because I'd rather not spend time writing a full opinion unless the submitter actually wants one. If one is asked, however, as was the case with your appeal, I am always happy to comply and explain the Court's reasoning.

This is an odd approach.

It is not uncommon in RL judiciaries for cases to be disposed of (orders issued etc) at times months prior to the publication of reasons. NS isn't RL, but if it works for the UK's judiciary, I'm not sure why we should hold TSP to a higher standard.
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Postby Vulturret » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:53 am

Kringalia wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:I'm suggesting that the result is perhaps decided before you might have had a chance to fully consider it

That's not how we do things in the judiciary. As the only branch of government required to take an oath of office, we take our responsibility very seriously.

Maybe the laws should be amended in order to require executive officials to take an oath of office. Maybe then they would take their responsibilities seriously?
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Postby Vulturret » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:50 pm

Is the South Pacific interested in responding to these concerns or has the region now adopted a foreign policy of abstention from engagement?
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:15 pm

Vulturret wrote:Is the South Pacific interested in responding to these concerns or has the region now adopted a foreign policy of abstention from engagement?

Both of the leading MoFA candidates (one of whom obviously won) expressed an interest in not engaging on this forum

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Jar Wattinree
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:24 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Vulturret wrote:Is the South Pacific interested in responding to these concerns or has the region now adopted a foreign policy of abstention from engagement?

Both of the leading MoFA candidates (one of whom obviously won) expressed an interest in not engaging on this forum

A good idea imo.
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:16 am

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Both of the leading MoFA candidates (one of whom obviously won) expressed an interest in not engaging on this forum

A good idea imo.

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Postby Of The Toads » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:18 pm

Roavin wrote:Not a good start for SNN's reputation. South Pacifican water does not, in fact, turn the frogs gay.


On what ground can you say this?

Have you now or ever been a frog? what if your waters do turn frogs homosexual?

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Postby Augustus Rex » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:43 pm

Of The Toads wrote:
Roavin wrote:Not a good start for SNN's reputation. South Pacifican water does not, in fact, turn the frogs gay.


On what ground can you say this?

Have you now or ever been a frog? what if your waters do turn frogs homosexual?

As the founder of a French region, I can confirm that TSP water does not make frogs homosexual.
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King Bradley
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Postby King Bradley » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:00 pm

What if the frogs were gay all along?
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Statement on the NPO

Postby TSP Foreign Office » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:05 pm

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Over the past few days, The South Pacific has watched a chain of revelations unfold concerning our ally, The New Pacific Order. Most meaningfully to the South Pacific, we have learned that Adytus, a player responsible for causing major tensions between ourselves and Osiris in 2016, was, in fact, an alternate identity of longtime NPO member Feux. We learned that (now former) Emperor Aleisyr knew of this identity for six months while the South Pacific and the NPO have been treaty partners, but never informed us and indeed promoted Feux to Senator. We have learned that Consul Pergamon claimed in June 2017 to have rigged the South Pacific’s elections in order to make TSP a puppet state. Finally, we learned that Quaestor Svezjacael conducted secret operations within our ally, the North Pacific. It has become increasingly clear that the NPO has had no qualms about violating regional sovereignty.

The alliance between the NPO and The South Pacific was built over a year of careful cooperation, to build confidence that our historical foe could be trusted to act in mutual interest and collaborative security. It has become evident, though, that the NPO has not lived up to that expectation. We cannot have faith in our alliance when the Order withholds information relevant to our security. We cannot stand idly by while high-ranking members of the Order’s government have engaged in actions that threaten our security and alliances, and elements within the NPO cast doubt on our democratic processes.

After much deliberation on the matter, the Cabinet of the South Pacific has decided to invoke Article VII, Section 2 and request that the Assembly terminate the Treaty of Capricorn with the New Pacific Order. We stand by the North Pacific and unequivocally condemn the actions of Quaestor Svezjacael. We demand that Svezjacael and Pergamon be permanently banned from the Pacific and that any further information regarding threats to the South Pacific or our fellow Game-Created Regions be released immediately.

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Postby New Rogernomics » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:18 pm

Succinct and right to the point. The Pacific's foreign activity has been very disappointing. I hope that the developing government in The Pacific, given the new Emperor, takes these concerns to heart.
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Postby Ryccia » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:25 pm

I feared something else, but this has been the best gift this day has brought. A most wise decision. TSP stands sovereign, respected, and honourable. I am proud of my homeland for taking this bold and correct action, which was necessary for the basic dignity of all regions afflicted by the NPO's subversion.
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The NAtion OF Froggy
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Postby The NAtion OF Froggy » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:53 pm

I demand cookies and millions of dollars from tsp.

I love how you absolve a treaty and then demand things.

Its a great move from a place of power.
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Postby Kavagrad » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:14 pm

The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:I demand cookies and millions of dollars from tsp.

I love how you absolve a treaty and then demand things.

Its a great move from a place of power.

The NPO have flagrantly breached TSP’s sovereignty, it’s only fair that the NPO get a taste of the same. If they don’t like it, they can keep collecting enemies.
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Postby North Prarie » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:15 pm

The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:I demand cookies and millions of dollars from tsp.

I love how you absolve a treaty and then demand things.

Its a great move from a place of power.

This ain't it chief
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:19 pm

The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:I demand cookies and millions of dollars from tsp.

I love how you absolve a treaty and then demand things.

Its a great move from a place of power.



NPO: *makes TSP a puppet state*

TSP: *Gets mad, revokes treaty*

NPO: "WhY Am I StiLL GeTtiNg HaTe?"

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Postby King Bradley » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:25 pm

A more than reasonable reaction from TSP. Hopefully The NPO realizes the error of their ways and makes amends sooner rather than later.
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The NAtion OF Froggy
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Postby The NAtion OF Froggy » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:39 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:I demand cookies and millions of dollars from tsp.

I love how you absolve a treaty and then demand things.

Its a great move from a place of power.



NPO: *makes TSP a puppet state*

TSP: *Gets mad, revokes treaty*

NPO: "WhY Am I StiLL GeTtiNg HaTe?"


You clearly don't understand the point of what I am saying.

Also I'm no lover of the npo.. But congrats on wasting time to type like a 90s kid. High marks for avoiding that when you want to tear up a contract then say because i did this you have to comply with what I want even tho we are no long allies. I forget how gp overlooks logic for awesome sounding words.
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Leave me at the bottom, let me work for it, you ain't never gonna find another rapper in the game
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:42 pm

The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

NPO: *makes TSP a puppet state*

TSP: *Gets mad, revokes treaty*

NPO: "WhY Am I StiLL GeTtiNg HaTe?"


You clearly don't understand the point of what I am saying.

Also I'm no lover of the npo.. But congrats on wasting time to type like a 90s kid. High marks for avoiding that when you want to tear up a contract then say because i did this you have to comply with what I want even tho we are no long allies. I forget how gp overlooks logic for awesome sounding words.


I object!

I only use the dankest 2010 memes to talk in.

Also I'm from nsg lol
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Postby Kavagrad » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:43 pm

The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

NPO: *makes TSP a puppet state*

TSP: *Gets mad, revokes treaty*

NPO: "WhY Am I StiLL GeTtiNg HaTe?"


You clearly don't understand the point of what I am saying.

Also I'm no lover of the npo.. But congrats on wasting time to type like a 90s kid. High marks for avoiding that when you want to tear up a contract then say because i did this you have to comply with what I want even tho we are no long allies. I forget how gp overlooks logic for awesome sounding words.

So you're expecting TSP to eat the shit that was forced on them, without being able to get anything in return? That's not logic, that's opening yourself up for another scoop.
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Postby North Prarie » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:46 pm

The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:


Also I'm no lover of the npo..


*looks at sig*
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Postby The NAtion OF Froggy » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:57 pm

Kavagrad wrote:
The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:
You clearly don't understand the point of what I am saying.

Also I'm no lover of the npo.. But congrats on wasting time to type like a 90s kid. High marks for avoiding that when you want to tear up a contract then say because i did this you have to comply with what I want even tho we are no long allies. I forget how gp overlooks logic for awesome sounding words.

So you're expecting TSP to eat the shit that was forced on them, without being able to get anything in return? That's not logic, that's opening yourself up for another scoop.


Yes, thats called the risks of treaty signing. You dont get to make demands if the treaty is broken. Its perfectly logical. You have to weigh risk vs reward. Im unsure how you think tsp gets to tell a region who to or not to ban. Because they were taken advantage of.. If wars the consequence ok. But the npo or any region has any obligation to listen anymore.
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I ain't saying I'm the best but I should be in the top ten, give me a list of names, I'm-ma top them
I'm just playing with ya, I don't care where the top is
Leave me at the bottom, let me work for it, you ain't never gonna find another rapper in the game
And tell me that he works more, tell me that he works more, nah!

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Postby The NAtion OF Froggy » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:58 pm

North Prarie wrote:
The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:


Also I'm no lover of the npo..


*looks at sig*
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Im banned from the npo for violation of their sedition laws :)
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I ain't saying I'm the best but I should be in the top ten, give me a list of names, I'm-ma top them
I'm just playing with ya, I don't care where the top is
Leave me at the bottom, let me work for it, you ain't never gonna find another rapper in the game
And tell me that he works more, tell me that he works more, nah!

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Postby North Prarie » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:01 pm

The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:So you're expecting TSP to eat the shit that was forced on them, without being able to get anything in return? That's not logic, that's opening yourself up for another scoop.


Yes, thats called the risks of treaty signing. You dont get to make demands if the treaty is broken. Its perfectly logical. You have to weigh risk vs reward. Im unsure how you think tsp gets to tell a region who to or not to ban. Because they were taken advantage of.. If wars the consequence ok. But the npo or any region has any obligation to listen anymore.

So you're saying that being taken advantage of by an ally is a consequence of signing a treaty? What kind of logic is that?
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