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by Sicaris » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:55 am
by G-Tech Corporation » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:57 am
by Ostroeuropa » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:04 am
NS Miami Shores wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Crime being caused by people being evil rather than societal factors and public policy is a conservative view right up until the perpetrator is a white male, it would seem.
Yes, if it's an Incel, it's more productive on a politics forum to discuss what circumstances create a person like that.
That the shooter was a male is already going to mean discussion of gender politics is relevant given the disparities in shooter genders and so on.
As a proud conservative Republican while I support gun rights, I support background checks and keeping guns away from mentally ill persons and criminals, but any person can snap and commit a crime with any kind of weapon including myself.
I saw this news story and I wanted to make this thread myself with my own poll options, but our OP Thread Host beat me too it, lol I hate that.
by The Isle of Beithe » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:09 am
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by Vassenor » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:14 am
by Paplem » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:58 am
Scottish Socialists wrote:Thousand Oaks: Las Vegas shooting survivor among deadA man who survived a mass shooting in Las Vegas last year was among those killed in Wednesday's attack in California, his family says.
Telemachus Orfanos, 27, died alongside 11 others when a man opened fire at the Borderline Bar and Grill in Thousand Oaks, north-west of Los Angeles.
He escaped death last year when a gunman killed 58 people in Las Vegas.
A number of survivors of that shooting, the worst in modern US history, have said they were at the bar on Wednesday.
"My son was in Las Vegas with a lot of his friends and he came home. He didn't come home last night," his mother told ABC News.
"It's particularly ironic that after surviving the worst mass shooting in modern history, he went on to be killed in his hometown," his father told the Ventura County Star.
A 27-year old who survived the Las Vegas shooting has been shot dead at the Thousand Oaks bar in California.
It’s gotten so much out of hand that a man who escaped one shooting has been shot dead in a shooting in his own hometown. There needs to be a lot done to reduce the amount of shootings.
What do you think about this incident, and what do you think should be done?
by Telconi » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:20 am
by Petrasylvania » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:27 am
by Cannot think of a name » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:29 am
Potato wrote:Scottish Socialists wrote:Thousand Oaks: Las Vegas shooting survivor among deadA man who survived a mass shooting in Las Vegas last year was among those killed in Wednesday's attack in California, his family says.
Telemachus Orfanos, 27, died alongside 11 others when a man opened fire at the Borderline Bar and Grill in Thousand Oaks, north-west of Los Angeles.
He escaped death last year when a gunman killed 58 people in Las Vegas.
A number of survivors of that shooting, the worst in modern US history, have said they were at the bar on Wednesday.
"My son was in Las Vegas with a lot of his friends and he came home. He didn't come home last night," his mother told ABC News.
"It's particularly ironic that after surviving the worst mass shooting in modern history, he went on to be killed in his hometown," his father told the Ventura County Star.
A 27-year old who survived the Las Vegas shooting has been shot dead at the Thousand Oaks bar in California.
It’s gotten so much out of hand that a man who escaped one shooting has been shot dead in a shooting in his own hometown. There needs to be a lot done to reduce the amount of shootings.
What do you think about this incident, and what do you think should be done?
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by Saiwania » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:54 am
by Petrasylvania » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:57 am
Saiwania wrote:If they were truly paranoid, they could've invested in some body armor and wore it in public underneath any clothing. If someone is intent to shoot at me, I'd want to get killed only if they're skilled enough for a head shot. People who whine about how hot or uncomfortable body armor is, don't make the sacrifices to be safer or increase their survival chances.
by Saiwania » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:01 am
Petrasylvania wrote:Body armor does nothing for head shots.
by Scomagia » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:03 am
Petrasylvania wrote:Saiwania wrote:If they were truly paranoid, they could've invested in some body armor and wore it in public underneath any clothing. If someone is intent to shoot at me, I'd want to get killed only if they're skilled enough for a head shot. People who whine about how hot or uncomfortable body armor is, don't make the sacrifices to be safer or increase their survival chances.
Body armor does nothing for head shots.
by The Blaatschapen » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:07 am
by Valgora » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:07 am
Scomagia wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:Body armor does nothing for head shots.
And anyone familiar with guns knows that you don't typically go for headshots, you aim for the center of mass because headshots are harder to accurately make. That's why hunters don't usually shoot deer in the face, for instance.
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by The Blaatschapen » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:08 am
Scomagia wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:Body armor does nothing for head shots.
And anyone familiar with guns knows that you don't typically go for headshots, you aim for the center of mass because headshots are harder to accurately make. That's why hunters don't usually shoot deer in the face, for instance.
by Scomagia » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:09 am
The blAAtschApen wrote:Scomagia wrote:And anyone familiar with guns knows that you don't typically go for headshots, you aim for the center of mass because headshots are harder to accurately make. That's why hunters don't usually shoot deer in the face, for instance.
Also, because it would ruin the trophy.
by Internationalist Bastard » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:10 am
by Internationalist Bastard » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:11 am
Scomagia wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:Body armor does nothing for head shots.
And anyone familiar with guns knows that you don't typically go for headshots, you aim for the center of mass because headshots are harder to accurately make. That's why hunters don't usually shoot deer in the face, for instance.
by Cannot think of a name » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:11 am
Valgora wrote:Scomagia wrote:And anyone familiar with guns knows that you don't typically go for headshots, you aim for the center of mass because headshots are harder to accurately make. That's why hunters don't usually shoot deer in the face, for instance.
Even if a person has body armor, one shouldn't aim for the head.
Instead, aim for around the groin area. A good hit there won't be instantly fatal, but it'll do the job and the person will likely bleed out if they don't receive medical care. More importantly, you're more likely to actually hit a person with the bullet if you aim there compared to aiming for the head.
by Valgora » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:13 am
Cannot think of a name wrote:Valgora wrote:Even if a person has body armor, one shouldn't aim for the head.
Instead, aim for around the groin area. A good hit there won't be instantly fatal, but it'll do the job and the person will likely bleed out if they don't receive medical care. More importantly, you're more likely to actually hit a person with the bullet if you aim there compared to aiming for the head.
First of all, if we have to all start walking around in body armor just so we don't do anything to people's boom sticks that's a fucked off set of priorities.
But to indulge this weird "how do we keep killing people if they wear vests" line of reasoning, seeing as vests don't turn you into superman and you still get the shit knocked out of you I imagine you just knock them down and then...
...you know what? This is fucking stupid. I can't finish it.
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by Internationalist Bastard » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:14 am
Cannot think of a name wrote:Valgora wrote:Even if a person has body armor, one shouldn't aim for the head.
Instead, aim for around the groin area. A good hit there won't be instantly fatal, but it'll do the job and the person will likely bleed out if they don't receive medical care. More importantly, you're more likely to actually hit a person with the bullet if you aim there compared to aiming for the head.
First of all, if we have to all start walking around in body armor just so we don't do anything to people's boom sticks that's a fucked off set of priorities.
But to indulge this weird "how do we keep killing people if they wear vests" line of reasoning, seeing as vests don't turn you into superman and you still get the shit knocked out of you I imagine you just knock them down and then...
...you know what? This is fucking stupid. I can't finish it.
by Paddy O Fernature » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:57 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:Surprised nobody said he should have carried a gun after the first time.
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