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Wrapper
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:28 am

Danubian Peoples wrote:Are you allowed to write a proposal and have another nation submit it on your behalf? I'm asking because I don't wanna join the WA for security reasons (it requires my email y'know), but at the same time I want to write proposals.

Yes. Credit should be given though; e.g. “Authored by Danubian Peoples” at the end of the proposal.

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Postby Danubian Peoples » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:54 am

Thanks! I'll get to writing a proposal (and hopefully finding someone to submit and credit me for it).
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:12 pm

Danubian Peoples wrote:I don't wanna join the WA for security reasons (it requires my email y'know)

It requires AN email address. There's no requirement that you use your main or real-named account. I personally have a Gmail account devoted just to gaming. I don't even check it unless I'm expecting something - like a WA confirmation email.

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:35 am

Wrapper wrote:
Danubian Peoples wrote:Are you allowed to write a proposal and have another nation submit it on your behalf? I'm asking because I don't wanna join the WA for security reasons (it requires my email y'know), but at the same time I want to write proposals.

Yes. Credit should be given though; e.g. “Authored by Danubian Peoples” at the end of the proposal.

That is, of course, if you are referring to having a different player submitting it. If you use a puppet, such an authorship tag would be branding.
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Postby Wrapper » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:59 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Wrapper wrote:Yes. Credit should be given though; e.g. “Authored by Danubian Peoples” at the end of the proposal.

That is, of course, if you are referring to having a different player submitting it. If you use a puppet, such an authorship tag would be branding.

Given the security concerns stated, that's how I took the question, as another player submitting it.

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Postby Cornlind » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:01 pm

Danubian Peoples wrote:Thanks! I'll get to writing a proposal (and hopefully finding someone to submit and credit me for it).

Hey I can submit it for you

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Postby Wrapper » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:52 pm

Such requests belong in a TG, not in the Q&A.

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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:00 am

Wallenburg wrote:That is, of course, if you are referring to having a different player submitting it. If you use a puppet, such an authorship tag would be branding.

That's not necessarily correct. If a proposal was originally drafted [and maybe even submitted, without success] using one nation, but either the original version or a modified one is later submitted using another nation belonging to the same player, then citing the first nation as author or co-author could be legal.
Precedent.

I think that, ideally, there would have to have been significant involvement by both nations separately [rather than just in a single & fairly short drafting thread] — and maybe also, as was the case for St Edmund and Bears Armed Mission, a lack of direct political connection between them, but still an explanation given for why they were cooperating on this — for it to be okay, and GenSec would have to discuss exactly where to draw the line if such a case does occur, but going by that precedent it seems potentially allowable.
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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:00 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:That is, of course, if you are referring to having a different player submitting it. If you use a puppet, such an authorship tag would be branding.

That's not necessarily correct. If a proposal was originally drafted [and maybe even submitted, without success] using one nation, but either the original version or a modified one is later submitted using another nation belonging to the same player, then citing the first nation as author or co-author could be legal.
Precedent.

It might be good to avoid that, nonetheless, as 8 year old precedent from a different Secretariat body and a different ruleset doesn't carry tons of weight.
I think that, ideally, there would have to have been significant involvement by both nations separately [rather than just in a single & fairly short drafting thread] — and maybe also, as was the case for St Edmund and Bears Armed Mission, a lack of direct political connection between them, but still an explanation given for why they were cooperating on this — for it to be okay, and GenSec would have to discuss exactly where to draw the line if such a case does occur, but going by that precedent it seems potentially allowable.

Agreed. Coauthorship is always a reason to place an authorship label on a resolution.
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Postby Huffingshire » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:52 am

Are there any world assembly bills dealing with historic preservation? I'm considering co-authoring a bill on this subject. Thanks!

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Postby The Niceties of Normal Moral Constraints » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:58 am

Huffingshire wrote:Are there any world assembly bills dealing with historic preservation? I'm considering co-authoring a bill on this subject. Thanks!


GAR #287 Cultural Site Preservation

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Postby Huffingshire » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:05 am

These people have literally thought of everything. Wow. Thanks for the find though.

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Postby Sperio » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:22 am

A new comer in my region wants to right a resolution criminalizing abortion (I will not support it)

Is there a existing resolution against what he is trying to do
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:24 am

Sperio wrote:A new comer in my region wants to right a resolution criminalizing abortion (I will not support it)

Is there a existing resolution against what he is trying to do

There are two. GARs #128 and 286.

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Postby SC Ambassador of Sargon Reman » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:24 pm

Is it easier getting the quorum for a proposal in GA than SC?

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:29 pm

SC Ambassador of Sargon Reman wrote:Is it easier getting the quorum for a proposal in GA than SC?


The most important variables are "Did you send a campaign telegram to delegates" and "How well written is the resolution?" Crappy proposals are less likely to reach quorum in either branch, and proposals with a TG campaign backing them are more likely in both. If getting to quorum is the reason you're picking one branch over the other, rather than because you have an idea that the WA could benefit from passing, you're most likely wasting your time.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:30 pm

SC Ambassador of Sargon Reman wrote:Is it easier getting the quorum for a proposal in GA than SC?

I would figure that they are about the same. Why?
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
SC Ambassador of Sargon Reman wrote:Is it easier getting the quorum for a proposal in GA than SC?

The most important variables are "Did you send a campaign telegram to delegates" and "How well written is the resolution?" Crappy proposals are less likely to reach quorum in either branch, and proposals with a TG campaign backing them are more likely in both. If getting to quorum is the reason you're picking one branch over the other, rather than because you have an idea that the WA could benefit from passing, you're most likely wasting your time.

^^This.
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Postby SC Ambassador of Sargon Reman » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:32 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
SC Ambassador of Sargon Reman wrote:Is it easier getting the quorum for a proposal in GA than SC?


The most important variables are "Did you send a campaign telegram to delegates" and "How well written is the resolution?" Crappy proposals are less likely to reach quorum in either branch, and proposals with a TG campaign backing them are more likely in both. If getting to quorum is the reason you're picking one branch over the other, rather than because you have an idea that the WA could benefit from passing, you're most likely wasting your time.

That's not the reason why. I just heard a rumor that it was and wanted to know for myself.
Thank you
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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:17 pm

SC Ambassador of Sargon Reman wrote:
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
The most important variables are "Did you send a campaign telegram to delegates" and "How well written is the resolution?" Crappy proposals are less likely to reach quorum in either branch, and proposals with a TG campaign backing them are more likely in both. If getting to quorum is the reason you're picking one branch over the other, rather than because you have an idea that the WA could benefit from passing, you're most likely wasting your time.

That's not the reason why. I just heard a rumor that it was and wanted to know for myself.
Thank you

They should still be the same but varies on author and proposal. It may seem easier because more proposals in ga have to undergo experience but sc still have bad proposal possible in quorom like self commend and condemn random nations.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:38 pm

Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:
SC Ambassador of Sargon Reman wrote:That's not the reason why. I just heard a rumor that it was and wanted to know for myself.
Thank you

They should still be the same but varies on author and proposal. It may seem easier because more proposals in ga have to undergo experience but sc still have bad proposal possible in quorom like self commend and condemn random nations.

All other things being equal, getting something to quorum is the same difficulty in both chambers. The GA and SC don't have differences in getting bad proposals, aside from cosmetic differences in what is available in either chamber.

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Postby Forensatha » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:09 pm

I understand that the GA Secretariat is very busy but when one of you get a moment could you please review my draft on the Repealing Preventing Desertification? Its either at the bottom of first page or top of the second.

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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:04 pm

Forensatha wrote:I understand that the GA Secretariat is very busy but when one of you get a moment could you please review my draft on the Repealing Preventing Desertification? Its either at the bottom of first page or top of the second.

Thank you

The GA Secretariat deals with legality of the proposal. They are not obligated to review if the proposal is good but can look if it's legal.
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Postby Sperio » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:41 pm

Is there an existing WA resolution about state sponsored violation of human rights?
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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:50 pm

Can I have a list of resolutions about Islamaphobia?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:06 pm

Saranidia wrote:Can I have a list of resolutions about Islamaphobia?

There are none that deal directly with Islamaphobia. Charter on Civil Rights deals generally with discrimination of all kinds.

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