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by Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:19 am
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Kenmoria » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:24 am
Greater Cesnica wrote:OOC: Submitted for approval
by Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:32 am
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
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by Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:43 am
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Araraukar » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:25 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:43 am
Araraukar wrote:OOC: Slipping espionage in as something that's restricted, rather than, you know, just causing damages, will likely work against you quite badly.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Bears Armed » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:50 am
by Araraukar » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:32 am
Greater Cesnica wrote:OOC: Espionage is defined as confined to the information-sphere and intelligence environment of the target state.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:18 pm
"II. Cyberwarfare is a technique carried out exclusively via electronic warfare devices, or cyberweapons as designated in Clause I and Clause II, in contrast to Espionage, which may be carried out via existing electronic surveillance programs or physical placements of spies and diplomatic infiltrations."
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Araraukar » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:27 am
Greater Cesnica wrote:Araraukar wrote:OOC: ...I fail to see how using the Internet makes it NOT a huge restriction on espionage.
OOC:"II. Cyberwarfare is a technique carried out exclusively via electronic warfare devices, or cyberweapons as designated in Clause I and Clause II, in contrast to Espionage, which may be carried out via existing electronic surveillance programs or physical placements of spies and diplomatic infiltrations."
Espionage is clearly not restricted to only cyber.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Greater Cesnica » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:08 am
Araraukar wrote:Greater Cesnica wrote:OOC:
Espionage is clearly not restricted to only cyber.
OOC: Well of course it's not only restricted to the datasphere, but a lot of it is. Also, your weird philosophy clauses aren't actual definitions as given at the start of the proposal, which by the way still classify actual regular computers and mobile phones and digital cameras and so forth as cyberweapons because of the inclusion of political damage in the cyberwarfare definition. The cyberweapon definition, with "to be designated and treated" does not actually eliminate them from the list, since you can "designate and treat" a newborn baby as a nuclear weapon - that they actually aren't, doesn't matter, when you're required to designate and treat them as one.
And because all of that, your attempt to separate espionage from actual cyberwarfare falls flat, because many of the things used in "normal" espionage are still included in the cyberweapon definition. Especially as you mention "existing electronic surveillance programs".
Do you understand the problem here?
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Araraukar » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:01 am
Greater Cesnica wrote:It is a case of iffy wording, I realize.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Greater Cesnica » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:59 pm
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
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by Araraukar » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:14 am
Greater Cesnica wrote:When I refer to 'political' damage, I am referring to a detrimental, quantifiable effect against the electoral system, legislature or national assembly, or a certain political party.
Secondly, if I were to define 'political' damage within the proposal, it would be prudent to define 'economic' damage, and the such.
Thirdly, the insinuation that I'm badgehunting is rather hurtful, and quite rude. I have already addressed this via TG in a clear and transparent manner.
or a grievous clause error that sinks all active clauses, I will pull it right there.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Kenmoria » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:46 am
by Araraukar » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:16 am
1.) All individuals shall have the right to peacefully assemble, associate, and protest to promote, pursue, and express any goal, cause, or view.
2.) No Government, Federal Authority, Corporation, or any other political or social group may take any action to infringe upon these rights; unless the individuals organizing are trespassing on private property and/or if circumstances beyond the control of the Government threaten the safety of those organizing.
3.) These things having been ordained, states that Freedom of Assembly cannot be extended towards any call for: violence, rioting, and/or actions that would cause harm to innocent people.
Defining a media technology to be any technology used for mass communication of information, including but not limited to the Internet, television, newspapers, and radio;
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1. Nations will allow national news media organisations to utilise all available media technologies to report news from and to areas inside their own borders, as well as from any other World Assembly nation.
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4. Citizens will not be banned from accessing any news sources from news media organisations operating both within and outside the nation's borders.
5. Reports from news media organisations operating within the nation's borders can only be censored if they pose a genuine threat to the security of the nation. Otherwise they are free to report news in accordance with any national freedom of expression laws and broadcasting codes of conduct.
1. Defines, for the sake of this resolution, the following terms:
- "free expression" as the ability to outwardly demonstrate, articulate, or otherwise express a political, cultural, social, moral, religious, ideological or other belief without fear of state punishment or reprisal,
- "defamation" as any exercise of expression which seeks to maliciously injure the reputation of another individual, group, or organisation, on the basis of false information, excluding satire and the critique of public servants in matters pertaining to their role,
2.Permits member nations to enact reasonable restrictions on peaceful free expression in those cases where the expression constitutes:
- defamation, as defined in section 1b,
- blatant and explicit pornographic material,
- an incitement to violence or widespread lawlessness,
- a threat to civilian or military health or safety,
- perjury or any other threat to the functioning of judicial proceedings,
- the leaking of classified information, or other information obtained in confidence, except where the information constitutes evidence of serious wrongdoing and disclosure thereof is clearly in the public interest,
- an infringement on private or intellectual property rights,
- a violation of prior, unrepealed international legislation,
3. Prohibits member states from hindering the right of individuals to free expression, excepting the restrictions established in section 2, and restrictions required to fulfill the mandates of WA legislation, or restrictions permitted in future, unrepealed WA legislation,
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
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