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Luziyca
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:02 pm

The South Falls wrote:The guy is shit. He might not have done this, but he is still shit.

Agreed.

I wouldn't be surprised if he did it, though.
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Kustonia
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Kustonia » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:02 pm

Prydania wrote:
Kustonia wrote:It's literally in my signature.

It's cute you think there's a difference.


There is a difference. José Antonio Primo de Rivera was not Adolf Hitler. I think you're a little rusty with your political understanding. Brush up on it and then get back to me.
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:05 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Prydania wrote:It's cute you think there's a difference.


There is a difference. José Antonio Primo de Rivera was not Adolf Hitler. I think you're a little rusty with your political understanding. Brush up on it and then get back to me.


If that's who you look up to, then it's even funnier that you're trying to distance yourself from the blatant Fascism that you espouse.
Anarchy's my name AND my game. RAINBOW! Revolutionary Catalonia and Revolutionary Rojava Forever! ^_^
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
"Al fascismo no se le discute, se le destruye/Fascism is not discussed, it is destroyed." - Buenaventura Durruti
You probably have my idea of Communism wrong.
"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
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Fartsniffage
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:06 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Prydania wrote:It's cute you think there's a difference.


There is a difference. José Antonio Primo de Rivera was not Adolf Hitler. I think you're a little rusty with your political understanding. Brush up on it and then get back to me.


Do you think Richard Spencer is a Nazi?

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Dark Socialism
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Postby Dark Socialism » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:08 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
There is a difference. José Antonio Primo de Rivera was not Adolf Hitler. I think you're a little rusty with your political understanding. Brush up on it and then get back to me.


If that's who you look up to, then it's even funnier that you're trying to distance yourself from the blatant Fascism that you espouse.

Jose was a blatant fascist
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Reikoku
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Postby Reikoku » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:08 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
Ikki Kita and Oswald Spengler were Nazis. :thonking:


As an fan of Spengler's Prussianism and Socialism, I am offended by Fartsniffage's suggestion.


I'm not really offended as much as bewildered.

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Kustonia
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Kustonia » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:10 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
There is a difference. José Antonio Primo de Rivera was not Adolf Hitler. I think you're a little rusty with your political understanding. Brush up on it and then get back to me.


If that's who you look up to, then it's even funnier that you're trying to distance yourself from the blatant Fascism that you espouse.


It's not funny because there is so much bias against the political Right.

What's ironic is that you are an anarchist who has ruled the Forums for so long that political opponents of yours are afraid to stand up to you, thankfully, I'm not.
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Prydania
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Prydania » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:11 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Prydania wrote:It's cute you think there's a difference.


There is a difference. José Antonio Primo de Rivera was not Adolf Hitler. I think you're a little rusty with your political understanding. Brush up on it and then get back to me.

:rofl:

I've just moved beyond caring about the inconsequential political divisions neo-Nazis on the internet dig up for themselves to pretend they aren't Nazis.

Kustonia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
If that's who you look up to, then it's even funnier that you're trying to distance yourself from the blatant Fascism that you espouse.


It's not funny because there is so much bias against the political Right.

What's ironic is that you are an anarchist who has ruled the Forums for so long that political opponents of yours are afraid to stand up to you, thankfully, I'm not.

Oooo look at you standing up like an internet tough guy. Dude, chill out. If you chill out long enough you might realize it's not cool to advocate for genocidal politics.
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Kustonia
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Postby Kustonia » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:14 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
There is a difference. José Antonio Primo de Rivera was not Adolf Hitler. I think you're a little rusty with your political understanding. Brush up on it and then get back to me.


Do you think Richard Spencer is a Nazi?


"Nazi" is a very old word that has a blurred meaning in today's context. I would call Richard Spencer a White Nationalist because it's hard to define the word "Nazi."
I'm a National Syndicalist, Traditionalist, White Nationalist
Pro: Nationalism, Socialism, Collectivism, Fascism, Nativism, Essentialism, Pluralism, Synocracy
Anti: Capitalism, Communism, Individualism, Liberalism, Multiculturalism, Modernity, Egalitarianism, Democracy
Favorite Philosophers/Theoreticians: Ernst Jünger, Oswald Spengler, Carl Schmitt, Aleksandr Dugin, Alain De Benoist, Georges Sorel
Democracy is a pathetic belief in the equal wisdom of individual ignorance.

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Prydania
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Prydania » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:18 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Do you think Richard Spencer is a Nazi?


"Nazi" is a very old word that has a blurred meaning in today's context. I would call Richard Spencer a White Nationalist because it's hard to define the word "Nazi."

Richard Spencer stood there as his supporters shouted "sieg heil" at him while giving him the Nazi salute. Do you need him to wear a shirt that says "I am a Nazi" to finally agree that the guy who holds Nazi-esque rallies and promotes Nazi-esque ideals might be a Nazi?
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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:27 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
If that's who you look up to, then it's even funnier that you're trying to distance yourself from the blatant Fascism that you espouse.


It's not funny because there is so much bias against the political Right.


This incident is incredibly funny, considering your model guy there joined up with literal Fascists.

Also, >implying I have a bias against all of the political right

lel

What's ironic is that you are an anarchist who has ruled the Forums for so long that political opponents of yours are afraid to stand up to you, thankfully, I'm not.


As I am Her Majesty, Queen Torra I, of House Anarkittismo, reigning monarch of the dominant Anarcho-Monarchist queendom on NS, I most humbly and regally declare this fraught and vulgar accusation against my most noble, chivalrous, and graceful name to be punishable by heavy-handed snark, spoken entirely on my fabulous behalf.
Anarchy's my name AND my game. RAINBOW! Revolutionary Catalonia and Revolutionary Rojava Forever! ^_^
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
"Al fascismo no se le discute, se le destruye/Fascism is not discussed, it is destroyed." - Buenaventura Durruti
You probably have my idea of Communism wrong.
"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3

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Prydania
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Postby Prydania » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:28 pm

Torrocca wrote:As I am Her Majesty, Queen Torra I, of House Anarkittismo, reigning monarch of the dominant Anarcho-Monarchist queendom on NS, I most humbly and regally declare this fraught and vulgar accusation against my most noble, chivalrous, and graceful name to be punishable by heavy-handed snark, spoken entirely on my fabulous behalf.

*plays trumpets*

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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:41 pm

Prydania wrote:
Torrocca wrote:As I am Her Majesty, Queen Torra I, of House Anarkittismo, reigning monarch of the dominant Anarcho-Monarchist queendom on NS, I most humbly and regally declare this fraught and vulgar accusation against my most noble, chivalrous, and graceful name to be punishable by heavy-handed snark, spoken entirely on my fabulous behalf.

*plays trumpets*


Please bow (as I must respect your consent to my reign as an Anarchist first and foremost) before your queen. :3
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Anarchy's my name AND my game. RAINBOW! Revolutionary Catalonia and Revolutionary Rojava Forever! ^_^
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
"Al fascismo no se le discute, se le destruye/Fascism is not discussed, it is destroyed." - Buenaventura Durruti
You probably have my idea of Communism wrong.
"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3

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Cedoria
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Postby Cedoria » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:46 pm

No, A racial totalitarianist is violent and abusive? I'm Shocked SHOCKED!

Why should anyone be shocked? Of course it's not confirmed to be true, but it would not in the least bit surprise me.
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Postby Cedoria » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:47 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:If the allegation is true, that makes Richard Spencer scum.

Abuse of anyone is the worst act anyone can do.

Spencer is scum whether the accusation is true or not, to be honest.
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Postby Cedoria » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:02 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Have you proof to the contrary? I am sure the scholarly debate over functionalism vs. intentionalism would love to hear this new evidence you have that could clear this whole thing up!

Fact is, though few people have any doubt of Hitler's guilt regarding the Holocaust, and rightly so, it likely wouldn't stand up in a fair court of law. Hell, in the Nuremburg trials, about as far from fair as you can get, plenty of high-ranking Nazis managed to bullshit their way out of "beyond a reasonable doubt" and avoid the noose they so rightly deserved.

"Beyond a reasonable doubt" is a legal function to prevent innocents from being punished, not a moral precept.

You know I actually didn't know about the 'no written order' thing. That's pretty damn interesting.

It's technically true, but there's enough written documentation of euphemisms at places like Wannasee and others that's its indisputable that he was fully aware and responsible.
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Len Hyet
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Postby Len Hyet » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:03 pm

Cedoria wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:You know I actually didn't know about the 'no written order' thing. That's pretty damn interesting.

It's technically true, but there's enough written documentation of euphemisms at places like Wannasee and others that's its indisputable that he was fully aware and responsible.

Oh sure he was absolutely aware and responsible, I just found it a kinda neat historical tidbit.
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Postby Cedoria » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:07 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>Better source
>Fox News

I'm fucking dying of laughter, right now.


They are mainstream and moderate compared to my convictions, that's for sure. I think I just ended your leftist lies and your implying that migrants are safe and we should all let them in.


That's not what anybody was implying though...
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Postby Cedoria » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:13 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
Cedoria wrote:It's technically true, but there's enough written documentation of euphemisms at places like Wannasee and others that's its indisputable that he was fully aware and responsible.

Oh sure he was absolutely aware and responsible, I just found it a kinda neat historical tidbit.

It is.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:17 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
There is a difference. José Antonio Primo de Rivera was not Adolf Hitler. I think you're a little rusty with your political understanding. Brush up on it and then get back to me.


Do you think Richard Spencer is a Nazi?


That's like asking "do you think 6ix9ine is an asshole?" If i drew a venn diagram of richard spencer as one circle and nazism as another, the circles would cross over so much that you'd only see one and not two
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:19 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Do you think Richard Spencer is a Nazi?


"Nazi" is a very old word that has a blurred meaning in today's context. I would call Richard Spencer a White Nationalist because it's hard to define the word "Nazi."


He's definitely an authoritarian. Spencer and the alt right only talk about free speech when they get their events shut down, but the minute anyone criticizes them or trump, they go on a hate spree
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:21 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>Better source
>Fox News

I'm fucking dying of laughter, right now.


They are mainstream and moderate compared to my convictions, that's for sure. I think I just ended your leftist lies and your implying that migrants are safe and we should all let them in.


Most migrants are safe. 90+% are desperate people fleeing war and poverty. And immigrants actually commit less crime than native born citizens of the US. Look, I know the scenes of spanish speaking women and kids coming to America keeps u awake at night, but if it makes you feel better, the brown people only want to wipe you from existence in your dark fantasy. In real life, they're just coming here so they dont get killed by gangs or terrorists. They arent coming to harm the white man
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Postby Oldenfranck » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:25 pm

Wow, about as surprising as Tim Kaine winning reelection next month.

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Postby Second Empire of America » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:08 am

Torrocca wrote:Should anyone really be surprised? Really?


I am personally very surprised. Not that he attacked his wife, but that he actually has a wife.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:14 am

It's just an accusation but would anyone be surprised if an alt-right guy happened to apply his ideology in real life?
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