[ACCEPTED; #1123] - Till Death Do Us Part

[Sacara]

I approve of the death.

You now have to amend the opening and the first option:

Ah yes, oversight errors. I've changed the two so that it now fits.

Personally, I like the way this has come along. Still, looking for more feedback.

[Chan Island]

Regarding our previous discussion, have you decided on another way for the man to die?

Yes, I changed the way the man died. Check it out

I must say I don't approve. Dying during sex drives the dilemma home much better, and then also more directly makes you wonder about the stance of the husband about how his sperm should be used.

[Sacara]

I must say I don't approve. Dying during sex drives the dilemma home much better, and then also more directly makes you wonder about the stance of the husband about how his sperm should be used.

Fair point, Chan. However, Marsupial also brought this up in an earlier discussion:

I just realized that the way the man dies is very important. This issue is basically about consent. If the man dies during sex, that would make the woman's case stronger, since the act of sex clearly implies that he would have wanted to impregnate her, and thus we can say he gave his consent before he died. If the man dies while walking in the park or something, the woman's case is not so strong since we don't have the man giving his consent for his sperm to be used. You have to decide which road to take here.

[Chan Island]

I must say I don't approve. Dying during sex drives the dilemma home much better, and then also more directly makes you wonder about the stance of the husband about how his sperm should be used.

Fair point, Chan. However, Marsupial also brought this up in an earlier discussion:

I just realized that the way the man dies is very important. This issue is basically about consent. If the man dies during sex, that would make the woman's case stronger, since the act of sex clearly implies that he would have wanted to impregnate her, and thus we can say he gave his consent before he died. If the man dies while walking in the park or something, the woman's case is not so strong since we don't have the man giving his consent for his sperm to be used. You have to decide which road to take here.

I have mixed feelings about that.

Perhaps it's the fact that it feels like you've swung it too far the other way right now. The woman should have a case that her husband wanted to impregnate her, and having this guy die randomly without any mention of it makes it feel a bit weak right now.

[Sacara]

I have mixed feelings about that.

Perhaps it's the fact that it feels like you've swung it too far the other way right now. The woman should have a case that her husband wanted to impregnate her, and having this guy die randomly without any mention of it makes it feel a bit weak right now.

Right, but that's the point that Marsupial brought up. Most of the time, it's just the wife wants the husbands sperm. That's it. The only claim to sperm that many people in real life is the fact that they're married, and most countries honor that. Seems weird, but it's the way it works.

[Chan Island]

I have mixed feelings about that.

Perhaps it's the fact that it feels like you've swung it too far the other way right now. The woman should have a case that her husband wanted to impregnate her, and having this guy die randomly without any mention of it makes it feel a bit weak right now.

Right, but that's the point that Marsupial brought up. Most of the time, it's just the wife wants the husbands sperm. That's it. The only claim to sperm that many people in real life is the fact that they're many, and most countries honor that. Seems weird, but it's the way it works.

Not a field I am intimately familiar with, so no opinions about it in real life.

As for the draft though, if the argument in real life really is that men have so much sperm that it doesn't matter the wife nabs a couple of the from her dead husband, then that argument should appear here too.

And just because in real life countries are a bit "sure, whatever" about just anyone who comes forward doesn't mean it should be the case in NS. This draft should have a difficult moral dilemma, and some kind of wish on the part of the deceased (except for the marriage part) for or against in either his activities just before death should be put in. In my opinion.

[Sacara]

As for the draft though, if the argument in real life really is that men have so much sperm that it doesn't matter the wife nabs a couple of the from her dead husband, then that argument should appear here too.

And just because in real life countries are a bit "sure, whatever" about just anyone who comes forward doesn't mean it should be the case in NS. This draft should have a difficult moral dilemma, and some kind of wish on the part of the deceased (except for the marriage part) for or against in either his activities just before death should be put in. In my opinion.

For your bolded part, I meant married, not many. My bad!

I'm not sure if I'm going to make any major changes to the draft as it stands. I kind of like it. However, I would also like to hear how others feel about this as well.

[Chan Island]

As for the draft though, if the argument in real life really is that men have so much sperm that it doesn't matter the wife nabs a couple of the from her dead husband, then that argument should appear here too.

And just because in real life countries are a bit "sure, whatever" about just anyone who comes forward doesn't mean it should be the case in NS. This draft should have a difficult moral dilemma, and some kind of wish on the part of the deceased (except for the marriage part) for or against in either his activities just before death should be put in. In my opinion.

For your bolded part, I meant married, not many. My bad!

I'm not sure if I'm going to make any major changes to the draft as it stands. I kind of like it. However, I would also like to hear how others feel about this as well.

Fair enough. It's your draft, not mine after all.

[Candlewhisper Archive]

I agree strongly with Chan.

The issue is stronger if death is during intercourse, because then you get the interesting interplay of the implied consent of him wanting to become a father, weighing up against the fact that harvesting sperm post-mortem to induce pregnancy is a totally different context.

[Sacara]

Well, I suppose. I defaulted back to version two, which has the death happening during intercourse.

[Sacara]

Submitted. Thanks to all that helped.

[Jutsa]

Gl, Sacara; near-certainly a keeper.

[Candensia]

Best wishes.

[Sacara]

This has been accepted as Issue #1123, with the same name as it was submitted with.

Huge thanks to The Marsupial Illuminati for editing this, as well as everyone who helped during the drafting process.

[Bears Armed]

Congratulations!

[Australian rePublic]

Yeay you!