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Postby Sunset » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:33 am

Danubian Peoples wrote:Out of curiosity, is a Kaiserreich roleplay w/ Kaiserreich nations more suited to P2TM or II?


If a 'Kaiserreich' RP involves and is started by nations which consider their central identity to be that alternative timeline then II is appropriate. If said RP is to involve nations/players who consider their main timeline to be something else, then it would go in P2TM. So if Sunset were to start and participate in such a thing? P2TM.

However, since there is no or will there ever be an established 'II' timeline, things can get a little muddy in that said 'Kaiserreich' nations may well interact with nations where the aforementioned alternative history 'didn't happen'.
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Postby Yohannes » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:18 am

I'm not sure where to post this, but I thought this thread would be the right one (if not, someone please tell me off!). We (me and one real ancient NationStates roleplayer) will soon write a thread/opening post titled "Guide to Hacking on NationStates". We have seen some very bad hacking posts lately used by International Incidents players as a sort of magic wand to unfairly "attack" other players in competitive Rping, and we thought that now is the time to shed some light on how not to RP hacking on NationStates

Would it be possible to ask for the thread (once we have created the opening post/thread) to be listed here: viewtopic.php?p=29953767#p29953767 ?

That would help many new players who have no idea on what hacking is (and some of the godmodding, and resulting OOC argument relating to the subject) and how not to godmod concerning hacking on NationStates. Thanks!
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Postby The Graceful Isles » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:23 am

I don't really need tips. I need step by step instructions. Because some of these RP's are quite big, and I was thinking about doing a Game of Thrones one, and I don't want to ruin it.
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Postby Kyrusia » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:29 am

Yohannes wrote:Would it be possible to ask for the thread (once we have created the opening post/thread) to be listed here: viewtopic.php?p=29953767#p29953767 ?

If the guide appears pertinent, useful, professionally composed (proper grammar, etc.), and overall of a helpful tone? Sure.
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Postby Yohannes » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:33 am

Kyrusia wrote:
Yohannes wrote:Would it be possible to ask for the thread (once we have created the opening post/thread) to be listed here: viewtopic.php?p=29953767#p29953767 ?

If the guide appears pertinent, useful, professionally composed (proper grammar, etc.), and overall of a helpful tone? Sure.


We will make sure to follow the above recommendation. Thanks Kyrusia!
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Postby Yohannes » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:36 am

The Graceful Isles wrote:I don't really need tips. I need step by step instructions. Because some of these RP's are quite big, and I was thinking about doing a Game of Thrones one, and I don't want to ruin it.


Thank you for your recommendation! We will be sure to try to make it very simple (yet informative) so it can be easily understood by casual NationStates writers and browsers (I myself am a casual NS player). Be sure to criticise/give recommendation on how to improve our guide once we have set up the guide :)
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Postby Yohannes » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:42 pm

As promised, and after some misunderstanding/issue with the Moderation team (which has been resolved), Stoklomolvi and I have released the Guide to Roleplaying "Hacking" on NationStates. I have seen a lot of out of character drama (one thread I've seen led to warning because of OOC arguments between the participants) concerning RPing hacking on NationStates, and I hope that this guide will fix that problem. Our intention (me and Stok) is to continually update the guide with more information within (of course) NationStates' rules (we will try to avoid mentioning some of the more... technical parts... for even at present the guide has already been taken seriously by the powers that be)

Kyrusia, would the guide be of acceptable standard to be included under the Help and Resources section? If it is not still up to scratch (the standard), please do tell how we can up the standard and we will try to do so. Thank you :)
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Postby Gosnfuxvsmcusvwgahx » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:56 pm

In an RP that I am in, another nation, x, and I are doing a storyline. It was initially fun, but I am getting tired of it because it mainly consists of x constantly attacking my nation and repelling my counterattacks.

Is there any way that I can either politely stop this pattern or politely terminate the storyline if necessary?
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Postby Sunset » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:05 am

Gosnfuxvsmcusvwgahx wrote:In an RP that I am in, another nation, x, and I are doing a storyline. It was initially fun, but I am getting tired of it because it mainly consists of x constantly attacking my nation and repelling my counterattacks.

Is there any way that I can either politely stop this pattern or politely terminate the storyline if necessary?


It sounds like this RP was started with no particular end-point in mind. Sometimes that can be okay; Stories that go in unexpected directions can be a lot of fun. But in this instance it sounds like one or both parties are 'playing to win'. My suggestion would to talk to your opponent and turn them into a partner - each of you sets out your desired end-point and together you negotiate towards something that is mutually agreeable. Once that is done you can both write towards that end-point or, if neither party is interested in writing to that point, use that negotiation as the foundation for a summary post and close the thread. If your opponent is unwilling to lay out their end-point and negotiate in good faith, I would take that to mean they are 'playing to win' and politely close the thread or bow out of it.
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Postby Gosnfuxvsmcusvwgahx » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:51 am

If someone godmods and I call them out, is their action automatically voided even if no one acknowledges it? Do I have to wait for the OP to acknowledge it?

And in another thread, I built a rocket ship and one of the other players RPed that they stole the plans and started building said rockets. However, they did not actually RP it. They simply said that the plans were stolen, but did not go through RPing it. Is this allowed or not?
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Postby Kylarnatia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:30 am

Gosnfuxvsmcusvwgahx wrote:If someone godmods and I call them out, is their action automatically voided even if no one acknowledges it? Do I have to wait for the OP to acknowledge it?


The simple truth is that nobody can force you as a player to accept anything that you believe is godmodding: if you believe something is and having after raised a complaint nothing is done to address this, you're free to 'retcon' (in other words, pretend it never happened) and walk away from the roleplay. I'd say send the OP a telegram and ask their opinion on the matter, as they have thread ownership and thus have the power to do something about it. and if they decide to continue and you're not happy with that, you're probably best off walking away.

Gosnfuxvsmcusvwgahx wrote:And in another thread, I built a rocket ship and one of the other players RPed that they stole the plans and started building said rockets. However, they did not actually RP it. They simply said that the plans were stolen, but did not go through RPing it. Is this allowed or not?


Godmodding is against the community standards, but not against the rules (as explained via the definition provided here by Kyrusia). That means it is not a 'punishable' action by the Moderators, but it is something generally frowned upon. You can bring this up directly with the player and request that the scenario be roleplayed properly, and if they refuse to do that then you have the right to ignore their actions, and again could probably request the OP's judgement on the matter due to their right of thread ownership (as mentioned above).
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Postby Project Renegade » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:29 pm

How would one declare war on another country?

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Postby Neu Engollon » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:40 am

Project Renegade wrote:How would one declare war on another country?


First step is to contact them, usually via telegram, and make sure that they want to actually RP conflict with you. If they are not participating, then you don't have a war. Next, plan a thread together. For instance, you might want to have a predetermined outcome, or you might want to just see where the war takes you. Set some limits, or decide the sky is the limit when it comes to the amount of troops, aircraft, vehicles and WMDs each can use, and if you'll allow unlimited allies to join in your war thread, or a set limit on each side. Have fun, but make sure that you're both doing what you want, because if it's only fun for one person, it won't last.
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Postby Kryatoyisra » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:28 pm

How do I design and RP a nation's democracy and political history? I have a factbook with some ideas of a nation and it's system but it's bare bones and probably flawed idea. Especially with a national that would be predominately local in nature due to a traditional economy and mindset for most of its history. Would I have a traditionalist vs progressive issue until the last few decades or what? What exactly would they be facing early in politics and how much of a genuine political movement would there be. What kind of issues would there be to solve? How could isolationism stall or aid the political system an what conditions are favorable to it?

What kind of economic activity can a primarily agricultural and primary sector have with a foreign economy. What kind of economic policies are on the table for such a nation?
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Postby Misthas » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:15 pm

Project Renegade wrote:How would one declare war on another country?

There's no way to "declare war" formally on a nation using the in-game mechanics, but you can TG another player and ask if they want to start a war.
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Postby Rainera » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:34 pm

What are some thoughts you guys have on RPing a small country without getting bored? I want a more laid back experience for once.
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Postby Yohannes » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:34 am

Rainera wrote:What are some thoughts you guys have on RPing a small country without getting bored? I want a more laid back experience for once.


For the best answer to that question, I'd ask the regular players (i.e. government players) of The Western Isles. The Western Isles specialises in small nations storytelling/nationbuilding/worldbuilding, and they're arguably the best and most active (not to mention largest) roleplaying region in 2018. Good luck and see you round the NationStates forums!
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Postby Lisander » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:50 pm

I remember when I started NationStates years ago, we had a calculator where we could modify the amount of population we wanted in our nations, and it would reflect on other data. Can someone point me to it or was it already turned down?
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Postby Kyrusia » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:09 pm

Lisander wrote:I remember when I started NationStates years ago, we had a calculator where we could modify the amount of population we wanted in our nations, and it would reflect on other data. Can someone point me to it or was it already turned down?

I presume you mean the old Absolution tracker (which was produced by Absolution, not NS itself); someone more familiar with them, feel free to correct me, but I'm pretty sure the old one is defunct. This appears to be the new one. I am unsure if it still allows you to edit things, as I have not tried it myself. It is also a product of the aforementioned region, not NS itself.
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:47 pm

Does anyone have any resources for WW2 era roleplaying? Both military and non-military?
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Postby Eastern Tumaini » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:55 am

We're supposed to RP as our leaders, right? Do we make the leader an OC or a persona type character? I'm confused.

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Postby The Macabees » Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:15 pm

Eastern Tumaini wrote:We're supposed to RP as our leaders, right? Do we make the leader an OC or a persona type character? I'm confused.


You control the entire world within the borders of your nation. You can RP as your leader, as another official, as a commoner, as whatever character you want.

In fact, I would start with thinking about the story you want to tell. Then you can figure out who the right characters would be to fit that story.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:23 pm

Eastern Tumaini wrote:We're supposed to RP as our leaders, right? Do we make the leader an OC or a persona type character? I'm confused.


You can describe anything you want and anyone you want. That said, I do like developing personality of Maki Kojiro, and describe his life. And remember - no nation, even the totalitarian ones, has a single leader. There is always a "group holding power" that the one in power has to at least account with. Very few people on NS properly describe the political lives of their respective countries.

Does anyone have any resources for WW2 era roleplaying? Both military and non-military?


I would recommend http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/ . I got tons of stuff about Imperial Japanese Army (which I used to worldbuild Nifon) from there, but you will find a lot of materials about other nations as well.
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Postby Mangahhan Super Region » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:49 pm

My Question Here is, could we also play humanitarian and disaster/calamity response like disaster relief in a natural disaster aside from wars and other diplomatic events?
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:59 pm

Mangahhan Super Region wrote:My Question Here is, could we also play humanitarian and disaster/calamity response like disaster relief in a natural disaster aside from wars and other diplomatic events?


That's perfectly fine.
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