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If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
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Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
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I'm lame and choose not to use a poll with wild stereotypes about both sides because I'm lame
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:41 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I don't support any forms of gun control

Cool.
apart from

What.
, perhaps,

No.
an age limit

NOOOOO.
around 16.

Oh okay
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:52 pm

Looking into the specifics of the gun control of Canada or the Canadian firearms market, it does appear that they have a retarded or logically inconsistent set of laws which make the AR-15 harder to get than say, a Ruger Mini-14 which is just like the AR-15 but "less scary" in terms of cosmetic appearance because it is more wooden.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:11 pm

Saiwania wrote:Looking into the specifics of the gun control of Canada or the Canadian firearms market, it does appear that they have a retarded or logically inconsistent set of laws which make the AR-15 harder to get than say, a Ruger Mini-14 which is just like the AR-15 but "less scary" in terms of cosmetic appearance because it is more wooden.


Wood is much more sustainable than plastic or metal. Wooden guns should be more in vogue.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:32 pm

Saiwania wrote:Looking into the specifics of the gun control of Canada or the Canadian firearms market, it does appear that they have a retarded or logically inconsistent set of laws which make the AR-15 harder to get than say, a Ruger Mini-14 which is just like the AR-15 but "less scary" in terms of cosmetic appearance because it is more wooden.

So in other words, they have a standard """assault weapons""" ban?
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Postby Loben » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:33 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Saiwania wrote:Looking into the specifics of the gun control of Canada or the Canadian firearms market, it does appear that they have a retarded or logically inconsistent set of laws which make the AR-15 harder to get than say, a Ruger Mini-14 which is just like the AR-15 but "less scary" in terms of cosmetic appearance because it is more wooden.


Wood is much more sustainable than plastic or metal. Wooden guns should be more in vogue.


also more expensive

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:33 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Saiwania wrote:Looking into the specifics of the gun control of Canada or the Canadian firearms market, it does appear that they have a retarded or logically inconsistent set of laws which make the AR-15 harder to get than say, a Ruger Mini-14 which is just like the AR-15 but "less scary" in terms of cosmetic appearance because it is more wooden.

So in other words, they have a standard """assault weapons""" ban?


Yes actually. A large part of it is copied word for word from some of DiFi's proposals, right down to including super niche but scary looking guns like the Encom line.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:35 pm

I want the right to use an automatic weapon against a home invader. Simple.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:48 pm

Loben wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Wood is much more sustainable than plastic or metal. Wooden guns should be more in vogue.


also more expensive


Something that grows and is just carved is more expensive than products that have to be mined out of the ground and then heavily processed?

Seems like laws requiring wooden furniture might be a good thing.....
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:49 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:I want the right to use an automatic weapon against a home invader. Simple.


Does home insurance cover the costs of the holes you blow in your own house and possessions?
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:50 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:I want the right to use an automatic weapon against a home invader. Simple.


Does home insurance cover the costs of the holes you blow in your own house and possessions?

That's the advantage of State Farm™
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Postby Loben » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:52 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Loben wrote:
also more expensive


Something that grows and is just carved is more expensive than products that have to be mined out of the ground and then heavily processed?

Seems like laws requiring wooden furniture might be a good thing.....


no.

I want my scary black rifle.


Black rifles matter.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:54 pm

Loben wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Something that grows and is just carved is more expensive than products that have to be mined out of the ground and then heavily processed?

Seems like laws requiring wooden furniture might be a good thing.....


no.

I want my scary black rifle.


Black rifles matter.

Skeletized AR-15s tho

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:54 pm

Loben wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Something that grows and is just carved is more expensive than products that have to be mined out of the ground and then heavily processed?

Seems like laws requiring wooden furniture might be a good thing.....


no.

I want my scary black rifle.


Black rifles matter.


They're ugly.

Much prettier -

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Postby Arengin Union » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:53 pm

The point of me calling the age restriction unconstitutional is that if I at age 18, had to register for the draft, could vote (At such a "young age" as they call it), could drive a car (which is a bigger killer than guns) and could be tried as a legal adult then people who are 18-20 should have the right to own a gun. There is merit to perhaps limits on alcohol and tobacco but the difference is that unlike guns those are not rights. If people can vote at age 18, they should be able to buy a gun freely if they wish so, its about principle and about applying the law fairly and equally FOR ALL. Its the bill of rights, not "The Bill of Certain Rights you Unlock between the Ages of 18 until you're 21." All rights and laws should apply to all who are legally of adult age. That is my standing.

I argue this as a person is their mid to late 20's, because I care about people's rights being respected and not taken away over some psycho making shitty mistakes. The actions of a few should not take away the rights of the majority.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:20 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:I want the right to use an automatic weapon against a home invader. Simple.

Just be glad you're not in the UK.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:20 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Loben wrote:
no.

I want my scary black rifle.


Black rifles matter.


They're ugly.

Much prettier -

Image

Damn never thought wood on an AR would make look so bad ass. Now I just need to find the Chuck Norris approved sticker. I'm sure it's somewhere on the gun.
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:03 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
They're ugly.

Much prettier -

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Damn never thought wood on an AR would make look so bad ass. Now I just need to find the Chuck Norris approved sticker. I'm sure it's somewhere on the gun.


I prefer the A1 configuration with wood furniture.

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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:07 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I don't support any forms of gun control apart from, perhaps, an age limit around 16.

Wtf? This is literally slavery.

We all know the age limit should be 1 week old fetus
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Postby Wysten » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:08 am

Hm if mostly wood guns can pass the AWB than it is time to put on my NCR Uniform and start patrolling the Mojave.
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Postby Huntpublic » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:40 am

Wysten wrote:Hm if mostly wood guns can pass the AWB than it is time to put on my NCR Uniform and start patrolling the Mojave.


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Postby Ors Might » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:47 am

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I don't support any forms of gun control apart from, perhaps, an age limit around 16.

Wtf? This is literally slavery.

We all know the age limit should be 1 week old fetus

Huh.

Suppose you can’t abort what’s packing.
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Postby Huntpublic » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:46 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Wtf? This is literally slavery.

We all know the age limit should be 1 week old fetus

Huh.

Suppose you can’t abort what’s packing.


Hey you know, a living being has got to do what it's got to do...
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:15 pm

I'm sure most of you have heard of the un att. Well it seems that the un itself is to blame for hundreds of thousands of arms fueling the black market and yet have the unmitigated gall to blame the United States for arms falling to the black market, when very few seem to end up there.
Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2018/10/united ... ack-market
Behind all the pompous critiques, was the knowledge that they could not control their weapons, let alone ours. UN peacekeepers themselves are/were fueling the local Black Markets with firearms diverted from UN stockpiles. This is an important point that is rarely brought to light.


Such a good thing the United States isn't part of this att nightmare.
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Postby Len Hyet » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:16 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:I'm sure most of you have heard of the un att. Well it seems that the un itself is to blame for hundreds of thousands of arms fueling the black market and yet have the unmitigated gall to blame the United States for arms falling to the black market, when very few seem to end up there.
Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2018/10/united ... ack-market
Behind all the pompous critiques, was the knowledge that they could not control their weapons, let alone ours. UN peacekeepers themselves are/were fueling the local Black Markets with firearms diverted from UN stockpiles. This is an important point that is rarely brought to light.


Such a good thing the United States isn't part of this att nightmare.


People seem to forget that UN Peacekeepers aren't all trained to some base standard, or all indoctrinated with western moral values. They're just regular troops from the countries that make up the UN, often serving near their country of origin. I don't know why people are surprised that troops from Cameroon and stationed in the CAR aren't being held to the same standards as say, the US Military, or the Brits or the French.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:23 am

Len Hyet wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:I'm sure most of you have heard of the un att. Well it seems that the un itself is to blame for hundreds of thousands of arms fueling the black market and yet have the unmitigated gall to blame the United States for arms falling to the black market, when very few seem to end up there.
Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2018/10/united ... ack-market


Such a good thing the United States isn't part of this att nightmare.


People seem to forget that UN Peacekeepers aren't all trained to some base standard, or all indoctrinated with western moral values. They're just regular troops from the countries that make up the UN, often serving near their country of origin. I don't know why people are surprised that troops from Cameroon and stationed in the CAR aren't being held to the same standards as say, the US Military, or the Brits or the French.
well one reason is
Probably because a majority of people want America to fix their problems either by throwing money at in an economic sense or by sending our troops into the meat grinder situations these nations get into. I say we dramatically change the structure of the UN or form a better UN replacement.
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