by Yagon » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:13 pm
by Yagon » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:29 pm
Uxupox wrote:rules? I have magic brah. I'll summon satan if i can and rule as his herald.
by The New California Republic » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:44 pm
by The New California Republic » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:54 pm
by Uxupox » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:54 pm
Yagon wrote:Uxupox wrote:rules? I have magic brah. I'll summon satan if i can and rule as his herald.
So you would effectively use your magic to seize power.
What would you do then, once in power?
Seperately, what if to seize power you need the collaboration of your global colleague wizards around the world? (Imagine for our example that the more powerful expressions of your magic requires others). It emerges that the unsolved political problem of people becomes the equally unsolved political problem of their ruler. How to take power must be solved (which requires politics), how to remain in power must be solved. What are your solutions? (You may assume your magic is not great enough to absorb the other wizards or anything like that, the political problem must be solved before your magic is that strong, and getting their requires the others).
by Yagon » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:00 pm
Uxupox wrote:Yagon wrote:
So you would effectively use your magic to seize power.
What would you do then, once in power?
Seperately, what if to seize power you need the collaboration of your global colleague wizards around the world? (Imagine for our example that the more powerful expressions of your magic requires others). It emerges that the unsolved political problem of people becomes the equally unsolved political problem of their ruler. How to take power must be solved (which requires politics), how to remain in power must be solved. What are your solutions? (You may assume your magic is not great enough to absorb the other wizards or anything like that, the political problem must be solved before your magic is that strong, and getting their requires the others).
Only two things would be the goal. Maintain power by eliminating all other mages and maintain a status quo among the populace. Things such as education will be forcibly discouraged, hierarchies will be established in an absolute manner and those that give dissenters to my regime will be richly rewarded. It's all about perpetuating an indefinite "dark age".
by Yagon » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:07 pm
by Multiversal Venn-Copard » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:09 pm
by Senkaku » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:16 pm
by The New California Republic » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:26 pm
Yagon wrote:
The Lenin Wizard...he is from somewhen else? Where did he go wrong?
by The Two Jerseys » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:48 pm
by Yagon » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:54 pm
Multiversal Venn-Copard wrote:I swiftly realize that the world I'm in is a poorly constructed metaphor for a different world that lacks magic and needs purely technological solutions to its own problems. I set about gathering wizards to use magic responsibly to create knowledge-gathering spells, and construct nonmagical items and processes to first undo the damage and then replace existing magical infrastructure (making us obsolete but the world just as good), while regretting that the other world cannot simply stop using its own problem-causing methods and switch to something else. That world used technology for evil, and it must learn to use it for good as well.
by The New California Republic » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:56 pm
by Yagon » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:57 pm
Senkaku wrote:sounds like my world is a thinly veiled analogy to the real one lol
Is this like a proposal for some sort of revolt of the scientists/weapons researchers or something? Seems dumb and impractical
by Yagon » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:02 pm
by The New California Republic » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:09 pm
Yagon wrote:Where would you say on Earth now is the best example of Lenin's Wizard Communism?
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:12 pm
Yagon wrote:Imagine you are a wizard in a world where magic is real but follows rigorous arcane rules and requires study and resources to master and develop. The more it develops, the more it takes to develop further, yet its powers grow at an even faster rate. It is forbidden for the masses to possess city destroying spells, as a precaution.
To work together at scale, the wizard must live in a society that provides food, clothing, etc. The Wizards powers are not great enough yet that it can arbitrarily rearrange matter around itself without invoking others. They must still eat, their magic is not quite yet enough that they can rearrange the planets in the sky into great black sails that eat sunlight and shit usable transmittable storable power that is distributed to the organelles of any human cell in the solar system by briefly puncturing spacetime or used to arrange matter into human and/or AI designed artisan meals to your particular taste.
But you are close. You and the others . Another few generations, perhaps, but how many generations has it been? Since the first to jam a stick under a log to get a tasty grub, and found a good stick for that, and kept it, and showed the others....how long?
But you've been warning them for a while now about the black burning and the coming droughts. You've told them and shown them, with the work of lifetimes of your colleagues around the world, that the magic has limits and we are taking more from the world than it can give. The air is smelling bad. The water is going bad. The animals are dying and not coming back at a faster rate than has been observed in a very long time, and those times were dark as mass extinctions can be.
The Kings were put in charge because they were good at killing, but they are bad leaders. They are short sighted. They want to be King, and they will see the Kingdom burn to nothing before it goes to any but their line. They will not listen to your warnings. They hold their swords to the world's throats, saying "Serve or we all die".
The wizards, being pragmatic, have served. They authored the city destroying spells. The spear that kills hundreds from hundreds of miles away, guided by magic eyes in the sky. The self-weilding swords are at working prototype.
Your colleagues across the world have their own Kings, and the insanity is spreading.
Do you continue to serve? Or do something else?
I would begin quietly talking to the other wizards and ask how everybody feels. That's what I would do.
by Infected Mushroom » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:45 pm
by Ethel mermania » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:59 pm
by Rectification Government » Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:07 pm
February 25, 1983 TinaMN fact: Our economy is half as large as that of the USSR. It is roughly equal to that of the UK, which seems to think that they're superior to us.
by Yagon » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:06 pm
The New California Republic wrote:Yagon wrote:
What percentage of scientists and engineers would respond favorably to a call to global communism? I believe in many places that call exists.
It depends, probably not many at the moment.Yagon wrote:Where would you say on Earth now is the best example of Lenin's Wizard Communism?
Fixed.
Hogwarts.
by Yagon » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:07 pm
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:
Attempt to use magic to transcend mortality. To kill the goddess of magic and replace her with myself. That shall be my folly and my name shall be Karsus.
by Reploid Productions » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:09 pm
Rectification Government wrote:libtards
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.
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