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by Union of Socialist Alpine Republics » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:22 am
Sargossa wrote:Union of Socialist Alpine Republics wrote:Someone needs to explain me why a team ranked 59th who posted a roster and RP almost everyday (the only time I didn't RP was when I had to go out of town last tuesday) lose 2 times against teams ranked 200 and lower who never poster a roster and a RP?
Nature of the beast, upsets happen all the time. I couldn't rp for the first few games and won them all. I RP-ed ahead of the most recent matchday and immediately lost at home to an unranked side. It's just how it works. Hang in there though, the upsets tend to lessen as you keep adding to that RP bonus the deeper into the campaign you go. Plus, if you hang around long enough, the luck tends to even itself out.Union of Socialist Alpine Republics wrote:Kita-Hinode keeps winning on the road against high ranked team and I don't.
Kita-Hinode are the second ranked side. They won't beat a higher ranked team until tomorrow, when they will absolutely beat a higher ranked team.
by Kita-Hinode » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:48 am
Union of Socialist Alpine Republics wrote:Sargossa wrote:Nature of the beast, upsets happen all the time. I couldn't rp for the first few games and won them all. I RP-ed ahead of the most recent matchday and immediately lost at home to an unranked side. It's just how it works. Hang in there though, the upsets tend to lessen as you keep adding to that RP bonus the deeper into the campaign you go. Plus, if you hang around long enough, the luck tends to even itself out.
Kita-Hinode are the second ranked side. They won't beat a higher ranked team until tomorrow, when they will absolutely beat a higher ranked team.
I meant K-Hinode beat on the road high ranked teams that are still lower than them (me and Siovanija and Teusland) but I can't beat teams ranked 200th and lower. I really thought I had a chance to qualify this time. I think I'm gonna stick to my domestic leagues, I don't wanna put an effort in an international competition anymore only to lose all the time.
by Mattijana » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:10 pm
by Union of Socialist Alpine Republics » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:28 pm
Kita-Hinode wrote:Union of Socialist Alpine Republics wrote:
I meant K-Hinode beat on the road high ranked teams that are still lower than them (me and Siovanija and Teusland) but I can't beat teams ranked 200th and lower. I really thought I had a chance to qualify this time. I think I'm gonna stick to my domestic leagues, I don't wanna put an effort in an international competition anymore only to lose all the time.
I've also posted every day, plus put up the time to edit a PES 2018 save, made sure most of the players I featured looked like the inspirations behind them and kind of didn't bother with the results lately.
Sounded really fun when nobody batted an eye.
by Kita-Hinode » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:37 pm
Union of Socialist Alpine Republics wrote:Kita-Hinode wrote:I've also posted every day, plus put up the time to edit a PES 2018 save, made sure most of the players I featured looked like the inspirations behind them and kind of didn't bother with the results lately.
Sounded really fun when nobody batted an eye.
Sorry for my rant. You get the results for your hard work and I don't, it frustrates me. Maybe I'm playing this wrong, maybe I should enjoy writing without caring about the results, but I actually care about them.
by Farfadillis » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:12 pm
by Eura » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:16 pm
Nephara wrote:Defeat is a narrative opportunity. If you're getting pulped, switch things up, sack the manager, have a tactical reshuffle, drop an old favourite. Then write about it.
by Krytenia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:46 pm
Eura wrote:Nephara wrote:Defeat is a narrative opportunity. If you're getting pulped, switch things up, sack the manager, have a tactical reshuffle, drop an old favourite. Then write about it.
You could also invade your opponent.
Not that I'm trying to plant any ideas in your head of course. None at all.
do it
by Kita-Hinode » Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:33 pm
Eura wrote:Nephara wrote:Defeat is a narrative opportunity. If you're getting pulped, switch things up, sack the manager, have a tactical reshuffle, drop an old favourite. Then write about it.
You could also invade your opponent.
Not that I'm trying to plant any ideas in your head of course. None at all.
do it
by Mytanija » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:03 pm
Kita-Hinode wrote:Typical Rushmori answer to anything.
by 95X » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:26 pm
I also don't like losing and in the past have posted in this very thread to vent my frustrations.Union of Socialist Alpine Republics wrote:Sorry for my rant. You get the results for your hard work and I don't, it frustrates me. Maybe I'm playing this wrong, maybe I should enjoy writing without caring about the results, but I actually care about them.
Nation not my RL views, etc.
Poe's Law. Nonpartisan.
by Qusmo » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:10 pm
by Adab » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:07 pm
Union of Socialist Alpine Republics wrote:Kita-Hinode wrote:I've also posted every day, plus put up the time to edit a PES 2018 save, made sure most of the players I featured looked like the inspirations behind them and kind of didn't bother with the results lately.
Sounded really fun when nobody batted an eye.
Sorry for my rant. You get the results for your hard work and I don't, it frustrates me. Maybe I'm playing this wrong, maybe I should enjoy writing without caring about the results, but I actually care about them.
by Free Republics » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:11 pm
Qusmo wrote:When I was writing my mid-qualifiers "predictions for the eventual qualifiers" RP, I realized just how difficult it is to qualify. I think that there are more than thirty-two teams deserving of a berth in the World Cup; not qualifying shouldn't be a message that someone has been RPing poorly or that they should stop trying. After all, no one has qualified every time they've tried (except, y'know, Drawkland & Baker Park, but that's beside the point).
by Starblaydia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:46 pm
Adab wrote:I lost 1-3 to Starblaydia even after I had RPed - not completely unexpected, given the disparity in our rankings - so I made this match report featuring the Starblaydi keeper scoring, a protester on the pitch, four yellow cards, and the assistant manager going off the rails, insulting the Starblaydis, and getting kicked off the pitch. An absolute farce. Sure I lost, but I enjoyed doing the match report. In fact, I think that's the most fun I've ever had writing a sports RP.
Adab wrote:I lost 1-3 to Starblaydia even after I had RPed - not completely unexpected, given the disparity in our ranking
by Commonwealth of Baker Park » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:46 pm
by Tinhampton » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:22 am
Banija wrote:Oscioru 2–1 Tinhampton
by South Toronto » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:25 am
by Union of Socialist Alpine Republics » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:38 am
Adab wrote:
So. my humble advice: when you lose, just go with the flow and have fun with it. I lost 1-3 to Starblaydia even after I had RPed - not completely unexpected, given the disparity in our rankings - so I made this match report featuring the Starblaydi keeper scoring, a protester on the pitch, four yellow cards, and the assistant manager going off the rails, insulting the Starblaydis, and getting kicked off the pitch. An absolute farce. Sure I lost, but I enjoyed doing the match report. In fact, I think that's the most fun I've ever had writing a sports RP.
by Geisenfried » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:23 pm
by Squornshelan Remnant States » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:29 pm
Geisenfried wrote:I would be careful about narratives like that. When you do roleplays that basically say "we would've won except for external circumstances that were blatantly unfair to us", it comes across as basically a temper tantrum.
*snip*
by Geisenfried » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:38 pm
Squornshelan Remnant States wrote:Geisenfried wrote:I would be careful about narratives like that. When you do roleplays that basically say "we would've won except for external circumstances that were blatantly unfair to us", it comes across as basically a temper tantrum.
*snip*
I will always remember when a particularly annoyed opponent of mine RPed that their team didn't make it to the match and that the 4-0 result was due to my players kicking the ball into an empty net. It was a bit annoying. That day also saw the nickname "Stupidheads" coined, which had some staying power, particularly in the Audioslavian and Insanian press. Not that I was always posting super high effort RP's mind you, but that one sticks out in my mind.
by Krytenia » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:32 pm
Geisenfried wrote:I would be careful about narratives like that. When you do roleplays that basically say "we would've won except for external circumstances that were blatantly unfair to us", it comes across as basically a temper tantrum. And while that's not to say you can never lose to a controversial call - those games happen, and I think just about everybody does it at some point, consistently crediting your wins to your team and your losses to things outside your control, it becomes very old to read very fast.
Trust me, I remember one time back in the WC 30s era where one of my World Cup group opponents was like that, and when I won handedly on the last matchday of groups to eliminate them, I basically rushed after the scores were posted to make sure I had a match report that had me winning convincingly and humiliatingly so they couldn't handwave it away. (It was basically a Germany-Brazil years before Germany-Brazil actually happened. Lucking into a 5-2 scoreline helped with that, admittedly.) And to this day, it's still one of my favorite RPs, even if it is a bit mean-spirited.
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