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Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
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Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:46 pm

“In clause 4b, I believe the ‘their’ before ‘audiences’ should be an ‘its’ instead, since there is only one WALDS so the pronoun shouldn’t be plural.”
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
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Wallenburg
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Founded: Jan 30, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Wallenburg » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:44 pm

Kenmoria wrote:“In clause 4b, I believe the ‘their’ before ‘audiences’ should be an ‘its’ instead, since there is only one WALDS so the pronoun shouldn’t be plural.”

Indeed it should. Thanks. :)
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

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Lord Dominator
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Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:01 pm

"Well, I'm cont currently seeing any reason to oppose, or obvious grammatical errors, so I definitely support. However, what is your expectation on these mandates regarding areas such as war-zones, disaster zones, or the like ambassador, given the likely more dire reason for people to know their WA protections?"

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Linux and the X
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5487
Founded: Apr 29, 2006
Ex-Nation

Postby Linux and the X » Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:23 am

Oh, is it safe to start a WA title with "circu…" these days?
If you see I've made a mistake in my wording or a factual detail, telegram me and I'll fix it. I'll even give you credit for pointing it out, if you'd like.
BLUE LIVES MURDER

[violet]: Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.
Me, responding to a request to vote for a liberation: But... but that would blemish my near-perfect history of spitefully voting against anything the SC does!
Farnhamia: That is not to be taken as license to start calling people "buttmunch."

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Wallenburg
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Founded: Jan 30, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Wallenburg » Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:46 am

Linux and the X wrote:Oh, is it safe to start a WA title with "circu…" these days?

That really should be the last thing to come to mind when reading this.
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

King of Snark, Real Piece of Work, Metabolizer of Oxygen, Old Man from The East Pacific, by the Malevolence of Her Infinite Terribleness Catherine Gratwick the Sole and True Claimant to the Bears Armed Vacancy, Protector of the Realm

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Linux and the X
Negotiator
 
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Founded: Apr 29, 2006
Ex-Nation

Postby Linux and the X » Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:55 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Linux and the X wrote:Oh, is it safe to start a WA title with "circu…" these days?

That really should be the last thing to come to mind when reading this.

Avoiding clusterfucks should never be the last thing to come to mind in this Assembly.
If you see I've made a mistake in my wording or a factual detail, telegram me and I'll fix it. I'll even give you credit for pointing it out, if you'd like.
BLUE LIVES MURDER

[violet]: Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.
Me, responding to a request to vote for a liberation: But... but that would blemish my near-perfect history of spitefully voting against anything the SC does!
Farnhamia: That is not to be taken as license to start calling people "buttmunch."

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Marshite Ponies
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 136
Founded: Jul 03, 2013
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Marshite Ponies » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:13 am

"Hello. I am Ambassador Twilight Sparkle of the Republic of Akila, and I am here to review the proposal. As a mare with a notable love of learning, education, and a support of information intelligence in a population, I broadly support the ideals of this proposal.

The Republic of Akila firmly supports the first clause. Making the resolutions of the World Assembly available to anycreature who asks for them is considered important already in the Republic, and it seems a fine practice to put into place. The Republic of Akila supports the second clause very broadly, though it would ask for some clarification on one matter. Is it expected and/or intended that every law student should be made aware of every resolution and the process of all legislation for the World Assembly, regardless of the nature of the law school they attend?

The Republic of Akils supports the third clause, pursuant to its belief in an educated populace with access provided by the first clause.
The Republic of Akila supports the fourth clause, but with some concerns that may drive it to not support the resolution. Namely, 4b give WALDS great power to influence populations with commentary. What protections are there to prevent an ideological bent, regardless of intent, from making such commentary politicized rather than educational?

The Republic affirms its support of clauses five and seven. The Republic is momentarily withholding support for clause six until questions asked by the Honored Representative from Lord Dominator are answered.

The Republic of Akila voices its general pleasure with this proposal, and is confident that it will be worthy of its support. Have a Harmonious day."
Member of the Romani-Marshite Union.
Marshite Ponies is ranked 1st in Borealias for Largest Defense Forces.

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Cosmopolitan borovan
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1032
Founded: Jan 18, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:49 am

In real life this makes no sense but WA resolution might be understandable and of interest

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Lord Dominator
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:40 pm

"I see ambassador, that you've submitted this. I look forward to the voting."

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Wallenburg
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Posts: 22872
Founded: Jan 30, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Wallenburg » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:03 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:"I see ambassador, that you've submitted this. I look forward to the voting."

"Indeed, thank you. As to your previous question:
Lord Dominator wrote:"Well, I'm cont currently seeing any reason to oppose, or obvious grammatical errors, so I definitely support. However, what is your expectation on these mandates regarding areas such as war-zones, disaster zones, or the like ambassador, given the likely more dire reason for people to know their WA protections?"

"Those individuals under the jurisdiction of World Assembly member states are still guaranteed the right to have access to copies of World Assembly legislation. In the case of contested territory or areas affected by disasters, member states must either provide copies of such legislation within the area, or provide individuals means of transportation to copies without."
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

King of Snark, Real Piece of Work, Metabolizer of Oxygen, Old Man from The East Pacific, by the Malevolence of Her Infinite Terribleness Catherine Gratwick the Sole and True Claimant to the Bears Armed Vacancy, Protector of the Realm

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Lord Dominator
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Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:07 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:"I see ambassador, that you've submitted this. I look forward to the voting."

"Indeed, thank you. As to your previous question:
Lord Dominator wrote:"Well, I'm cont currently seeing any reason to oppose, or obvious grammatical errors, so I definitely support. However, what is your expectation on these mandates regarding areas such as war-zones, disaster zones, or the like ambassador, given the likely more dire reason for people to know their WA protections?"

"Those individuals under the jurisdiction of World Assembly member states are still guaranteed the right to have access to copies of World Assembly legislation. In the case of contested territory or areas affected by disasters, member states must either provide copies of such legislation within the area, or provide individuals means of transportation to copies without."

"Thank you ambassador, that's enough for me."

OOC: Might I suggest a thread title change :p

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Wallenburg
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Founded: Jan 30, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Wallenburg » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:16 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:"Indeed, thank you. As to your previous question:

"Those individuals under the jurisdiction of World Assembly member states are still guaranteed the right to have access to copies of World Assembly legislation. In the case of contested territory or areas affected by disasters, member states must either provide copies of such legislation within the area, or provide individuals means of transportation to copies without."

"Thank you ambassador, that's enough for me."

OOC: Might I suggest a thread title change :p

OOC: No you may not!!!
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

King of Snark, Real Piece of Work, Metabolizer of Oxygen, Old Man from The East Pacific, by the Malevolence of Her Infinite Terribleness Catherine Gratwick the Sole and True Claimant to the Bears Armed Vacancy, Protector of the Realm

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Lord Dominator
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Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:18 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:"Thank you ambassador, that's enough for me."

OOC: Might I suggest a thread title change :p

OOC: No you may not!!!

OOC: Blast, my one weakness! Rejection

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Lord Dominator
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Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:08 am

OOC: This is now at vote

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Satanas Saltanas
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: Sep 05, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Satanas Saltanas » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:24 am

OOC: Is... are you meant to... discuss stuff as if it's IC? Uh...

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Jocospor
Diplomat
 
Posts: 984
Founded: Nov 24, 2015
Father Knows Best State

Postby Jocospor » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:47 am

It is not in the Confederation's best interests for its general populace to understand World Assembly resolutions. The Delegate's Office has consequently voted against this disgusting attempt to inspire insurgence.
HAIL THE CONFEDERATION!
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Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 7914
Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:16 am

“At this has reached the voting floor, this delegation declares its support for this proposal. It is an excellent way to ensure that member states properly follow their obligations in international law and a chance to give the WA populace a more thorough understanding of global affairs.”
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Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

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Arasi Luvasa
Diplomat
 
Posts: 640
Founded: Aug 29, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Arasi Luvasa » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:03 am

Jocospor wrote:It is not in the Confederation's best interests for its general populace to understand World Assembly resolutions. The Delegate's Office has consequently voted against this disgusting attempt to inspire insurgence.



"Your reasoning has inspired me sir. Initially I was hesitant to cast my vote, seeing the proposal as unnecessary." says Ariela Mirase, Ambassador and Voice for Arasi Luvasa, carefully placing down the flask from which she had just been drinking. "However my people firmly stand for truth, and if the failure of this proposal may jeopardize others access to truth then we will stand firmly in support."
Ambassador Ariela Galadriel Maria Mirase
37 year old Arch-bishop of the Arasi Christian Church (also the youngest ever arch-bishop and fifth woman in the church hierarchy). An attractive but stern woman with a strict adherence to religious and moral ethical codes, also somewhat of an optimist. She was recently appointed to the position following the election of Adrian Midnight to the position of Patriarch.

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Furry Things
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Feb 12, 2018
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Furry Things » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:58 pm

I see no reason why a nation should be allowed to keep the laws they follow from their own citizens. It would only seem to be practical if one is trying to hide rights from one's own citizens, which I definitely disagree with. Support.

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Metthara
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: Dec 11, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Metthara » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:23 pm

The great Empire of Metthara shall support this resolution. We constantly pursue knowledge of all things, so educating the masses about the WA fits right in our ideals.
—Lance Cantin, Emperor of Metthara
Note: We do not have an ambassador, as our great Emperor is happy to negotiate and communicate with other nations on his own.

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Thyerata
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 408
Founded: Mar 17, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Thyerata » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:27 pm

Satanas Saltanas wrote:OOC: Is... are you meant to... discuss stuff as if it's IC? Uh...


OOC: Yes. This is a primarily IC forum. I'd suggest that you just have a look around first and create your WA ambassador before jumping in to participate in debates
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Akbar
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: Sep 05, 2018
Ex-Nation

We need an amendment.

Postby Akbar » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:08 pm

"Requires member nations to make available to all their inhabitants the text of World Assembly resolutions"

For countries who don't have the necessary technological infrastructure to simply make the text available online, this will constitute an unnecessary financial burden by forcing them to make available, in physical print, the text of World Assembly resolutions for every single one of their inhabitants .

Changing from requires to something like urges is necessary if we don't want to impose a financial burden on countries that are already impoverished.

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Pragaliane
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: Sep 04, 2018
Ex-Nation

Pragaliane's stance

Postby Pragaliane » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:20 pm

The Pragalianeese Government cannot support this resolution as it can introduce ideologies into the country that go aggainst the values and morals of Pragalianeese people.

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Wallenburg
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Posts: 22872
Founded: Jan 30, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Wallenburg » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:35 pm

Akbar wrote:"Requires member nations to make available to all their inhabitants the text of World Assembly resolutions"

For countries who don't have the necessary technological infrastructure to simply make the text available online, this will constitute an unnecessary financial burden by forcing them to make available, in physical print, the text of World Assembly resolutions for every single one of their inhabitants .

Changing from requires to something like urges is necessary if we don't want to impose a financial burden on countries that are already impoverished.

"My deepest apologies. I was unaware your nation had no libraries."
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

King of Snark, Real Piece of Work, Metabolizer of Oxygen, Old Man from The East Pacific, by the Malevolence of Her Infinite Terribleness Catherine Gratwick the Sole and True Claimant to the Bears Armed Vacancy, Protector of the Realm

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Atlantcian States
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 2
Founded: Aug 02, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Atlantcian States » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:50 pm

Stop the WA from meddling too much in regions!! vote against this Law!

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