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by Cute Puppies » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:33 pm
by Imperium Anglorum » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm
by Kenmoria » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:29 pm
by DeltaSource » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:30 am
by The First German Order » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:49 am
DeltaSource wrote:In DeltaSource Capital Punishment is the only thingkeeping the people in line. I would reccomend you delete this disgusting capitalist propaganda immedietly.
by New-Brussels » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:11 am
The First German Order wrote:DeltaSource wrote:In DeltaSource Capital Punishment is the only thingkeeping the people in line. I would reccomend you delete this disgusting capitalist propaganda immedietly.
“If capital punishment is the only thing keep your citizens in line, then your nation really needs to invest in a better police force, ambassador. Also, even though I’m not in favor of this repeal, it’s not very polite to tell someone to trash their proposal, and call it ‘disgusting capitalist propaganda’. As a matter of fact, it’s a great way to get yourself a terrible reputation around here.”
by Kenmoria » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:10 am
DeltaSource wrote:In DeltaSource Capital Punishment is the only thingkeeping the people in line. I would reccomend you delete this disgusting capitalist propaganda immedietly.
by Wallenburg » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:07 pm
by Separatist Peoples » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:11 pm
Wallenburg wrote:Still opposed. Capital punishment has its uses.
by Araraukar » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:59 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Hard disagree, ambassador. Capital punishment rarely deters crime, serves no rehabilitation benefit, and does not contain lawbreakers from the general population more effectively than imprisonment would. It's purely retributive, which is a poor way to run a justice system to my mind."
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Tinfect » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:06 pm
United Massachusetts wrote:[...]
Convinced that such a ban would be desirable for the following reasons:
The finality of the death penalty prevents the state from correcting any errors made in the legal and conviction processes, thereby inevitably condemning to death certain innocent individuals,
United Massachusetts wrote:A great many individuals facing the death penalty are unable to afford their own attorneys, and are often forced to rely on overburdened public defense mechanisms,
United Massachusetts wrote:Any long legal process associated with the death penalty is bound to extend the pain and frustrations of crime victims, rather than provide the closure they need and desire,
United Massachusetts wrote:The predominantly retributive model of justice employed by the death penalty has failed to deter crime in any provable way,
United Massachusetts wrote:Permitting the death penalty represents a rejection of the notion that life has intrinsic worth merely by virtue of its existence,
United Massachusetts wrote:Seeking, therefore, to empower this Assembly once again to ban the morally problematic,
United Massachusetts wrote:unmerciful,
United Massachusetts wrote:outdated practice of capital punishment,
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by Kenmoria » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:10 am
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by Bears Armed » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:05 am
any long legal process associated with the death penalty is bound to extend the pain and frustrations of crime victims, rather than provide the closure they need and desire,but the target resolution doesn't require the sort of ridiculously drawn-out process that occurs in the RL USA. I haven't done so, but if & when this gets to vote I will definitely be arguing IC that sentencing the convicted to long imprisonment rather than to a [relatively] speedy execution is bound to have that effect on the crime victims...
by United Massachusetts » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:13 am
Bears Armed wrote:OOC; I was sorely tempted to call it illegal under the 'Honest Mistake' rule, because its clause 'c' saysany long legal process associated with the death penalty is bound to extend the pain and frustrations of crime victims, rather than provide the closure they need and desire,but the target resolution doesn't require the sort of ridiculously drawn-out process that occurs in the RL USA. I haven't done so, but if & when this gets to vote I will definitely be arguing IC that sentencing the convicted to long imprisonment rather than to a [relatively] speedy execution is bound to have that effect on the crime victims...
by Fauxia » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:29 am
Repeal wrote:the finality of the death penalty prevents the state from correcting any errors made in the legal and conviction processes, thereby inevitably condemning to death certain innocent individuals,
Requires member nations to take every possible measure to ensure that innocent people are never executed
by Aclion » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:55 am
United Massachusetts wrote:Bears Armed wrote:OOC; I was sorely tempted to call it illegal under the 'Honest Mistake' rule, because its clause 'c' saysany long legal process associated with the death penalty is bound to extend the pain and frustrations of crime victims, rather than provide the closure they need and desire,but the target resolution doesn't require the sort of ridiculously drawn-out process that occurs in the RL USA. I haven't done so, but if & when this gets to vote I will definitely be arguing IC that sentencing the convicted to long imprisonment rather than to a [relatively] speedy execution is bound to have that effect on the crime victims...
The resolution banned summary executions and called for a fair trial for those facing death. That would appear to necessitate, in most states, a far more thorough legal process.
Fauxia wrote:I’m not going to submit a legality challenge because I don’t understand the General Assembly enough, but can someone explain to me how this doesn’t violate the honest mistake rule?Repeal wrote:the finality of the death penalty prevents the state from correcting any errors made in the legal and conviction processes, thereby inevitably condemning to death certain innocent individuals,
But the target resolution says:Requires member nations to take every possible measure to ensure that innocent people are never executed
That seems to me to ban capital punishment in cases where there’s a shadow of a doubt of the guilt of the individual, thereby making this an honest mistake violation.
What am I missing?
by United Massachusetts » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:04 am
Fauxia wrote:I’m not going to submit a legality challenge because I don’t understand the General Assembly enough, but can someone explain to me how this doesn’t violate the honest mistake rule?Repeal wrote:the finality of the death penalty prevents the state from correcting any errors made in the legal and conviction processes, thereby inevitably condemning to death certain innocent individuals,
But the target resolution says:Requires member nations to take every possible measure to ensure that innocent people are never executed
That seems to me to ban capital punishment in cases where there’s a shadow of a doubt of the guilt of the individual, thereby making this an honest mistake violation.
What am I missing?
by Sciongrad » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:34 am
Fauxia wrote:I’m not going to submit a legality challenge because I don’t understand the General Assembly enough, but can someone explain to me how this doesn’t violate the honest mistake rule?Repeal wrote:the finality of the death penalty prevents the state from correcting any errors made in the legal and conviction processes, thereby inevitably condemning to death certain innocent individuals,
But the target resolution says:Requires member nations to take every possible measure to ensure that innocent people are never executed
That seems to me to ban capital punishment in cases where there’s a shadow of a doubt of the guilt of the individual, thereby making this an honest mistake violation.
What am I missing?
by Separatist Peoples » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:23 am
Egoplis wrote:Justice is not merciful, and it never should be. I can get what you are thinking, but perhaps limitations may be imposed if you feel so strongly.
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