[Abortion Thread] (YET ANOTHER POLL!) Taking measure.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

Let's remember, all, that the Catholic church is against contraception and abortion. It doesn't make sense.

I think they're on the "women are baby factories" side

[The South Falls]

Let's remember, all, that the Catholic church is against contraception and abortion. It doesn't make sense.

I think they're on the "women are baby factories" side

That no women controls her own body.

[Vassenor]

Let's remember, all, that the Catholic church is against contraception and abortion. It doesn't make sense.

I think they're on the "women are baby factories" side

Something something but God's plan something something

[The South Falls]

I think they're on the "women are baby factories" side

Something something but God's plan something something

Women are slaves to man... something something

[Neutraligon]

So long as I can take your organs and enslave you in turn.

You can do whatever you want with my organs when I’m dead just like they do with the kids they abort

Why should I wait for if you are dead, after all why should you have the right to do with your body what you want when I have use for it.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

I think they're on the "women are baby factories" side

Something something but God's plan something something

It comes from the RCC belief that when married heterosexual couple has sex, they are fulfilling “the Holy Sacarment” of marriage. Birth control is seen as giving the middle finger to God.

[Vassenor]

So long as I can take your organs and enslave you in turn.

You can do whatever you want with my organs when I’m dead just like they do with the kids they abort

If a woman does not have the right to do what she wants with her body when she is alive then neither do you. You don't have the right to set that "only after I'm dead" caveat.

[Sovaal]

Conservative religious I isntitition is conservative in regards to the abortion debate. Colored me surprise./s

[Dogmeat]

Let's remember, all, that the Catholic church is against contraception and abortion. It doesn't make sense.

It makes complete sense. Forgiveness is their business, and the best way to keep business good is to make sure that everyone is perpetually guilty of something.

[Sovaal]

Given that multiple scientific studies suggest that a fetus becomes conscious at 24-30 weeks, I'd set the limit of abortions at 24 weeks (which is also the limit of viability, so countries such as the United States and the UK can leave the limit where it is) - the vast majority of abortions (especially elective abortions) happen before 12 weeks, let alone 24, though.

That seems fair enough. A revamp of sex education, at least here in the states, would be nice as well.

[Sovaal]

Let's remember, all, that the Catholic church is against contraception and abortion. It doesn't make sense.

It makes complete sense. Forgiveness is their business, and the best way to keep business good is to make sure that everyone is perpetually guilty of something.

I mean they don’t exactly have to ah e some big conspiracy going on for that. I’m not the biggest fan of organized religion but people aren’t perfect.

Anyway, off topic.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

Let's remember, all, that the Catholic church is against contraception and abortion. It doesn't make sense.

It makes complete sense. Forgiveness is their business, and the best way to keep business good is to make sure that everyone is perpetually guilty of something.

According to some research, up to 90% of Roman Catholic women use birth control. And the Catholics on NSG are mad at me for deciding to leave the Church rather than remain within and continue to disobey it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Personally speaking, if the fetus is viable, pending a serious medical scenario, I wouldn't abort. In fact, we seldom perform the procedure in the late stages of a pregnancy. But that's just my opinion on my own hypothetical pregnancy. I am in favor of access to abortion at any point during the pregnancy if that's what the mother, or parents along with having consulted their healthcare provider, decide is the best course of action.

I also think it should be viewed the same in law. Legal access at any point during pregnancy. To me, an abortion is a medically necessary procedure for many, no different than a tooth extraction. It's a private matter and it should be left to those personally involved (the woman and/or partner) to decide what is best for them.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

Personally speaking, if the fetus is viable, pending a serious medical scenario, I wouldn't abort. In fact, we seldom perform the procedure in the late stages of a pregnancy. But that's just my opinion on my own hypothetical pregnancy. I am in favor of access to abortion at any point during the pregnancy if that's what the mother, or parents along with having consulted their healthcare provider, decide is the best course of action.

I also think it should be viewed the same in law. Legal access at any point during pregnancy. To me, an abortion is a medically necessary procedure for many, no different than a tooth extraction. It's a private matter and it should be left to those personally involved (the woman and/or partner) to decide what is best for them.

I agree. If we lived in a society were women had to go to back allies to terminate a pregnancy, it would lead to more horrible accidents and/or deaths. However, I’m getting a vibe from many anti-abortion activists believe that women who die from unsafe abortion methods(due to not having access to safe ones) that they believe these women “deserve what happens to them”....

[The South Falls]

Personally speaking, if the fetus is viable, pending a serious medical scenario, I wouldn't abort. In fact, we seldom perform the procedure in the late stages of a pregnancy. But that's just my opinion on my own hypothetical pregnancy. I am in favor of access to abortion at any point during the pregnancy if that's what the mother, or parents along with having consulted their healthcare provider, decide is the best course of action.

I also think it should be viewed the same in law. Legal access at any point during pregnancy. To me, an abortion is a medically necessary procedure for many, no different than a tooth extraction. It's a private matter and it should be left to those personally involved (the woman and/or partner) to decide what is best for them.

I agree. If we lived in a society were women had to go to back allies to terminate a pregnancy, it would lead to more horrible accidents and/or deaths. However, I’m getting a vibe from many anti-abortion activists believe that women who die from unsafe abortion methods(due to not having access to safe ones) that they believe these women “deserve what happens to them”....

I don't get conservatism. They protect cells that aren't humans, yet put kids in cages. It makes me shrug.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Personally speaking, if the fetus is viable, pending a serious medical scenario, I wouldn't abort. In fact, we seldom perform the procedure in the late stages of a pregnancy. But that's just my opinion on my own hypothetical pregnancy. I am in favor of access to abortion at any point during the pregnancy if that's what the mother, or parents along with having consulted their healthcare provider, decide is the best course of action.

I also think it should be viewed the same in law. Legal access at any point during pregnancy. To me, an abortion is a medically necessary procedure for many, no different than a tooth extraction. It's a private matter and it should be left to those personally involved (the woman and/or partner) to decide what is best for them.

I agree. If we lived in a society were women had to go to back allies to terminate a pregnancy, it would lead to more horrible accidents and/or deaths. However, I’m getting a vibe from many anti-abortion activists believe that women who die from unsafe abortion methods(due to not having access to safe ones) that they believe these women “deserve what happens to them”....

I can't say one way or the other. If some think that, shame on them. All I know is that that's how I would proceed. I draw the line at viability, provided my medical condition isn't more serious that it would require termination. However, other women should have the choice to decide what's best for them. Hence why access to abortion shouldn't be limited. It should be available throughout the entire pregnancy.

[Katganistan]

Let's remember, all, that the Catholic church is against contraception and abortion. It doesn't make sense.

They aren't the only ones. Remember, when JFK took office it was a SHOCK that a CATHOLIC would serve.

Many of the loudest anti-choice anti-contraception voices are Christians of other sects.

[Katganistan]

It makes complete sense. Forgiveness is their business, and the best way to keep business good is to make sure that everyone is perpetually guilty of something.

According to some research, up to 90% of Roman Catholic women use birth control. And the Catholics on NSG are mad at me for deciding to leave the Church rather than remain within and continue to disobey it.

All of them?

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Something that always bugs me is that too often the same people who are 'pro-life' also support measures that would actually reduce teen pregnancy rates and abortion.

Because they'd be percieved as legitimizing teen sex. I can see where they're coming from. It's unfortunate but not hypocritical.

In theory I could see merit to drawing the line at the 3rd trimester on account of sentience, but in practice there's often a serious risk of serious complications from pregnancy after that point and granting exceptions "case-by-case" might deny women access to genuinely necessary abortions.

[Great Mojave]

Condoms are okay.

However, abortion should be an emergency procedure in cases of rape and incest, and nothing else. Otherwise, you are terminating a life. If you don't have a right to live, do you even have rights? Besides, it's not a pressing women's health issue if it can be resolved by using birth control or committing sexual abstinence.

[Irish Laren]

I think abortion should be fully illegal, no matter what

[Ifreann]

If someone is pregnant and doesn't want to be then they should be able to go to their doctor and have their pregnancy terminated. I don't see any need for more limits than that.

[The South Falls]

I think abortion should be fully illegal, no matter what

You want people to have babies conceived of rape? What if mother's lives are at serious risk? (Ectopic pregnancies, etc.)

[Irish Laren]

I think abortion should be fully illegal, no matter what

You want people to have babies conceived of rape? What if mother's lives are at serious risk? (Ectopic pregnancies, etc.)

C-sections are a good option if their mother's live is at risk, and my mother had a high blood pressure, so i was forced to born earlier, (I should be born in March). And they can aso adopt the baby after the birth

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I think abortion should be unrestricted up to 26 weeks, because at this point the fetus still has not developed a functioning nervous system, does not feel pain, and certainly isn't sentient, and I don't have a problem with medically justified late term abortions.