by Lycrabon » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:23 pm
by The Sherpa Empire » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:38 pm
by Liventia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:44 pm
The Sherpa Empire wrote:Northwest Kalactin has previously been accused of faking or butchering results in other competitions. I think you're going to have some trust issues.
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by The Plough Islands » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:54 pm
Lycrabon wrote:Of course, what system of scoring is the most important question. I, as will Northwest Kalactin, will use the current version of xkoranate.
by Lycrabon » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:14 am
by NSWC Signups » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:44 am
by Lycrabon » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:22 am
by Nephara » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:47 am
by Cassadaigua » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:11 am
by Northwest Kalactin » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:15 am
by Sargossa » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:42 am
Northwest Kalactin wrote:Trust me my ability to hosting international competitions may be bad but look at my domestic competitions (besides cricket) have you seen my soccer results I have done 4 leagues in 1 day before plus a cup in rugby I’ve done 2 in 1 day also the past Is the past like I don’t think quebec and apox would like me to bring up a World Cup or free Republics the 11th summer Olympics right we all have our faults and we shouldn’t be judged by those if you have a problem with me hosting deal with it it’s not you in tournament it’s a ton of new nations that I pledge to use RL time if I have to to make this competition as perfect as it can get.
by The Royal Kingdom of Quebec » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:28 am
Northwest Kalactin wrote:[also the past Is the past like I don’t think quebec and apox would like me to bring up a World Cup or free Republics the 11th summer Olympics right we all have our faults and we shouldn’t be judged by those if you have a problem with me hosting deal with it it’s not you in tournament it’s a ton of new nations that I pledge to use RL time if I have to to make this competition as perfect as it can get.
by Apox » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:16 am
by Michine » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:10 am
Northwest Kalactin wrote:Trust me my ability to hosting international competitions may be bad but look at my domestic competitions (besides cricket) have you seen my soccer results I have done 4 leagues in 1 day before plus a cup in rugby I’ve done 2 in 1 day also the past Is the past like I don’t think quebec and apox would like me to bring up a World Cup or free Republics the 11th summer Olympics right we all have our faults and we shouldn’t be judged by those if you have a problem with me hosting deal with it it’s not you in tournament it’s a ton of new nations that I pledge to use RL time if I have to to make this competition as perfect as it can get.
by Union of Socialist Alpine Republics » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:17 am
by Lycrabon » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:32 am
by Vledasia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:29 pm
by South Toronto » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:34 pm
Lycrabon wrote:In response to all of the concerns with NK co-hosting, I have made the decision to go it alone. This is not an indictment of their ability per se; I just feel that the less that is out of my control, the easier it is to fix any issues. The bid will be adjusted shortly.
by Lycrabon » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:20 pm
by Northwest Kalactin » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:46 pm
Michine wrote:Lycrabon: That's fine with me, thankyou for the clarification on everything, my mind's at rest as far as you're concerned :3 Although I can't support this bid I would have no issues at all in supporting or taking part in a tournament you host in the future.
Northwest Kalactin:Northwest Kalactin wrote:Trust me my ability to hosting international competitions may be bad but look at my domestic competitions (besides cricket) have you seen my soccer results I have done 4 leagues in 1 day before plus a cup in rugby I’ve done 2 in 1 day also the past Is the past like I don’t think quebec and apox would like me to bring up a World Cup or free Republics the 11th summer Olympics right we all have our faults and we shouldn’t be judged by those if you have a problem with me hosting deal with it it’s not you in tournament it’s a ton of new nations that I pledge to use RL time if I have to to make this competition as perfect as it can get.
Speaking as one of the "ton of new nations", I find the implication that new, or new to the World Cup, countries can be fobbed off with a lower quality of hosting quite insulting, to be honest. The thing about the Baptism of Fire is that it's meant to introduce new countries in a solid, supportive environment; if anything that demands a higher quality of host, not lower, especially when there's so many newbies as there are now.
From what I've seen, the one core unshakable principle of Nationstates sports hosting isn't speed, or quality of organisation, or time spent on the tournament - although those are all important, and essential to a good tournament - it's confidence that the results have been generated impartially and fairly. I don't believe you use a scorinator, I haven't seen any evidence that you know how to use xkoranate, and I don't have any trust that a tournament you hosted would have impartially, fairly generated results, I'm afraid. You can change that perception with time, and hosting good tournaments, and taking part in roleplay, and not lashing out at the first sign of something going wrong - but I've already seen in the 2-3 months I've been involved multiple occasions where you've had those chances and not taken them, and until that changes I wouldn't want to be involved. I'd rather skip such a tournament entirely and take my chances in the main draw.
by Drawkland » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:55 pm
Northwest Kalactin wrote:Michine wrote:Lycrabon: That's fine with me, thankyou for the clarification on everything, my mind's at rest as far as you're concerned :3 Although I can't support this bid I would have no issues at all in supporting or taking part in a tournament you host in the future.
Northwest Kalactin:
Speaking as one of the "ton of new nations", I find the implication that new, or new to the World Cup, countries can be fobbed off with a lower quality of hosting quite insulting, to be honest. The thing about the Baptism of Fire is that it's meant to introduce new countries in a solid, supportive environment; if anything that demands a higher quality of host, not lower, especially when there's so many newbies as there are now.
From what I've seen, the one core unshakable principle of Nationstates sports hosting isn't speed, or quality of organisation, or time spent on the tournament - although those are all important, and essential to a good tournament - it's confidence that the results have been generated impartially and fairly. I don't believe you use a scorinator, I haven't seen any evidence that you know how to use xkoranate, and I don't have any trust that a tournament you hosted would have impartially, fairly generated results, I'm afraid. You can change that perception with time, and hosting good tournaments, and taking part in roleplay, and not lashing out at the first sign of something going wrong - but I've already seen in the 2-3 months I've been involved multiple occasions where you've had those chances and not taken them, and until that changes I wouldn't want to be involved. I'd rather skip such a tournament entirely and take my chances in the main draw.
So this guy doesn’t use Xkorinate
United Dalaran wrote:Goddammit, comrade. I just knew that someday some wild, capitalist, imperialist interstellar empire will swallow our country.CN on the RMB wrote:drawkland's leader has survived so many assassination attempts that I am fairly certain he is fidel castro in disguise
by Strike » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:02 pm
Northwest Kalactin wrote: Xkorinate
Northwest Kalactin wrote:2: Globe Cup & vilitan cove invitational
by Northwest Kalactin » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:10 pm
Drawkland wrote:
Sorry to butt in for the moment, since this technically isn't part of the bid anymore, but this clearly isn't xkoranate, Kalactin.
The tables are formatted, but the results are clearly faked. For example, Kempsey United is said to have played 22 games, but their record (15-8-5) claims they've played 28. Not to mention the points are also inconsistent (15-8-5 should be 53 points, not 47).
Later in the post, the Bank Cup results are clearly not from xkoranate. Xkoranate results come formatted with en dashes between the scores (1–1), while the results on this post use hyphens (1-1). It's a slight difference, but the evidence is clear.
I feel like it would be a lot easier to just learn the ropes of xkoranate than trying to elaborately fake them. But you do you.
As far as the bid is concerned, I'm curious to know whether you plan to have a Round of 32 or Round of 16, Lycrabon. Choosing a bid to vote for is going to be hard with all these decent bids showing up today!
by Drawkland » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:33 pm
United Dalaran wrote:Goddammit, comrade. I just knew that someday some wild, capitalist, imperialist interstellar empire will swallow our country.CN on the RMB wrote:drawkland's leader has survived so many assassination attempts that I am fairly certain he is fidel castro in disguise
by Lycrabon » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:59 pm
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