I'll say that with 99 percent certainty but crazier things have happened. How he even gets one vote is beyond my understanding
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by Shrillland » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:37 pm
by Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:38 pm
by Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:39 pm
by San Lumen » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:44 pm
by Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:52 pm
San Lumen wrote:Ifreann wrote:Why shouldn't he be permitted to run and vote?
I dont think someone who is in prison should be allowed to vote or run for office. Why should someone who will never be released be able to vote or run? A prison is meant to be a place of punishment not where you have the same rights as someone not serving time.
But once you are released absolutely.
by Petrasylvania » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:52 pm
by Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:54 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:So is he even allowed to run in the first place?
by San Lumen » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:54 pm
Outer Sparta wrote:San Lumen wrote:I dont think someone who is in prison should be allowed to vote or run for office. Why should someone who will never be released be able to vote or run? A prison is meant to be a place of punishment not where you have the same rights as someone not serving time.
But once you are released absolutely.
Even people who are released still cannot vote. Every other country with a democracy doesn't make people lose their vote the second they step into a prison.
by Ifreann » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:55 pm
Why should someone who will never be released be able to vote or run?
A prison is meant to be a place of punishment not where you have the same rights as someone not serving time.
by San Lumen » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:56 pm
Ifreann wrote:San Lumen wrote:I dont think someone who is in prison should be allowed to vote or run for office.
Why not?Why should someone who will never be released be able to vote or run?
Because there's no reason for them to lose those rights.A prison is meant to be a place of punishment not where you have the same rights as someone not serving time.
That doesn't mean prisoners should lose all their rights.
by Petrasylvania » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:59 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:59 pm
by Ifreann » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:01 pm
If and when they get out sure but not while they're inside.
by Shrillland » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:04 pm
by Ifreann » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:05 pm
by Chernoslavia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:10 pm
by Ifreann » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:10 pm
Shrillland wrote:Ifreann wrote:Why?
Because someone who committed such a crime that they have to spend time in prison has forfeited certain aspects of their rights. They do still have rights as people and as citizens, but not in the same way that they would if they were free. You don't have to get a warrant to search a cell, for example.
by Shrillland » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:17 pm
Ifreann wrote:Genivaria wrote:Because we don't want people who show anti-social behavior to be IN CHARGE of society.
I wasn't aware that the US had more people in prison than outside it.Shrillland wrote:
Because someone who committed such a crime that they have to spend time in prison has forfeited certain aspects of their rights. They do still have rights as people and as citizens, but not in the same way that they would if they were free. You don't have to get a warrant to search a cell, for example.
You're not giving me any reason why people should lose their democratic rights while in the custody of the state, you're just telling me that they do.
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