Any Monarchists on NS?

[The Irish Marchlands]

Something I had been wondering, I'm an Irish Monarchist playing NS and it wasnt till now that I got curious, *after seeing the fascism is best government type thread*, Anyone else or am I horrifically alone?

[Dryk Reborn]

Are we talking a true monarchy or a wishy-washy UK monarchy where the monarch doesn't actually do anything but eat money?

[Jervak]

Reactionary and disgustingly outdated idea. Get rid of it so humanity can progress. Thankyou, come again.

[The Irish Marchlands]

Are we talking a true monarchy or a wishy-washy UK monarchy where the monarch doesn't actually do anything but eat money?

I'm, using the broad term of Monarchists, that includes those who like the wishy washy monarchies of Uk and Norway, which have no power and true monarchists, Royalists, Carlists, Legitimists, Reactionaries, Bonapartists, Orleaonists,etc, etc

[The Irish Marchlands]

Reactionary and disgustingly outdated idea. Get rid of it so humanity can progress. Thankyou, come again.

Quaint

[Lauchlin]

I'm pretty happy with my country having a monarch.

[Lackadaisical2]

I'm pretty happy with my country having a monarch.

Queen Obama good enough?

[Mushet]

I'm Burger King's kid BITCH

[Tierra Prime]

Reactionary and disgustingly outdated idea. Get rid of it so humanity can progress. Thankyou, come again.

This ^

[SD_Film Artists]

I think it's an anachronism, but it's sure better than places becoming an independent republic.

[Hydesland]

There are plenty of people on here who support a limited constitutional monarchy type system.

[Empire of Symphonia]

I'm fine with a democratic monarchy or democracy in general, but I wouldn't mind if there was another Emperor of China........

[Narcidia]

I'm quite supportive of an absolute monarchist government type. Unfortunately the places in the world with them are blooming ****ing mental and all of the other monarchs are weakened by democratic reforms because they didn't have the strength to hold up their crown.

[Aeronos]

Looking at the places with absolute monarchies... like, you know, Saudi Arabia and Qatar... no <_<

Though I do think the English Queen should remain as she is. The tourism revenues from the Royal Family are stronger than the tax credits they get from us, so... whatever!

[Grandtaria]

*Raises hand* If you ask me its the only form of government that isn't doomed to fail and collapse every single time. If done properly it is fairly stable and if the populace is kept uneducated, then they are fairly cowed. But that's just me....

[The Irish Marchlands]

I'm quite supportive of an absolute monarchist government type. Unfortunately the places in the world with them are blooming ****ing mental and all of the other monarchs are weakened by democratic reforms because they didn't have the strength to hold up their crown.

ctually Most European Monarchies became Republics after WWI largely because of American Influence in the post war negotiations, the irony would be if Russia had not become communist, the Russians would likely have prevented the axis powers from losing or weakening their monarchies after they lost. They'd still pay reparations out the wazoo though.

[The Irish Marchlands]

*Raises hand* If you ask me its the only form of government that isn't doomed to fail and collapse every single time. If done properly it is fairly stable and if the populace is kept uneducated, then they are fairly cowed. But that's just me....

You're half right, although if the industrial age has shown us anything, its that even populations that became more and more educated still preferred monarchies

[Narcidia]

I'm quite supportive of an absolute monarchist government type. Unfortunately the places in the world with them are blooming ****ing mental and all of the other monarchs are weakened by democratic reforms because they didn't have the strength to hold up their crown.

ctually Most European Monarchies became Republics after WWI largely because of American Influence in the post war negotiations, the irony would be if Russia had not become communist, the Russians would likely have prevented the axis powers from losing or weakening their monarchies after they lost. They'd still pay reparations out the wazoo though.

My reason for creating a time machine.

[Lackadaisical2]

*Raises hand* If you ask me its the only form of government that isn't doomed to fail and collapse every single time. If done properly it is fairly stable and if the populace is kept uneducated, then they are fairly cowed. But that's just me....

You're half right, although if the industrial age has shown us anything, its that even populations that became more and more educated still preferred monarchies

I don't see any discernible pattern there actually.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Are we talking a true monarchy or a wishy-washy UK monarchy where the monarch doesn't actually do anything but eat money?

As I recall, the UK's monarchy costs each British citizen something like 2 pence per year to support. Meanwhile, they bring in millions in tourism each year.

In terms of my own stance on monarchy, I feel that autocracy is a bad idea. However, a constitutional monarchy, one where the monarch has actual power, can be beneficial to the state. Having somebody with a long-term interest in the health of the state, who doesn't have to play to popular sentiment to get elected, is, I feel, a good idea. Suitably checked by other branches of government, of course.

And preferably with some mechanism for removing the more insane monarchs without having to resort to...ahem..."Hemorrhoids," which are the official cause of death for no less than two Russian monarchs.

[Jervak]

Are we talking a true monarchy or a wishy-washy UK monarchy where the monarch doesn't actually do anything but eat money?

As I recall, the UK's monarchy costs each British citizen something like 2 pence per year to support. Meanwhile, they bring in millions in tourism each year,

Why should I pay taxes for people to be better than the rest?

British tax payers (primarily the working class) pay to feed and clothe those worthless leeches on society that serve no purpose at all.
Just seems like such an absurd concept to begin with... But I guess history and culture are the justifications, as per usual

In this picture, probably enough to pay for any budget shortfall in the UK. (hyperbolic I know but seriously)

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[South Norwega]

I'm quite supportive of an absolute monarchist government type. Unfortunately the places in the world with them are blooming ****ing mental and all of the other monarchs are weakened by democratic reforms because they didn't have the strength to hold up their crown.

ctually Most European Monarchies became Republics after WWI largely because of American Influence in the post war negotiations, the irony would be if Russia had not become communist, the Russians would likely have prevented the axis powers from losing or weakening their monarchies after they lost. They'd still pay reparations out the wazoo though.

European Monarchies pre WWII:
Germany
UK
Denmark
Sweden
Norway
Romania
Bulgaria
Serbia
Greece
Austria-Hungary
Luxembourg
Belgium
Liechtenstein
Russia

There may be others, but I think only three of those Monarchies collapsed during/after the war, and none of those had any thing to do with US influence.

[Hydesland]

British tax payers (primarily the working class) pay to feed and clothe those worthless leeches on society that serve no purpose at all.
Just seems like such an absurd concept to begin with... But I guess history and culture are the justifications, as per usual

The same argument could easily said for basically every publicly funded art gallery or museum in existence, except that they tend not to bring in the same amount of money the royal family does.

[The Irish Marchlands]

Why should I pay taxes for people to be better than the rest?

British tax payers (primarily the working class) pay to feed and clothe those worthless leeches on society that serve no purpose at all.
Just seems like such an absurd concept to begin with... But I guess history and culture are the justifications, as per usual

Ireland's president is useless to the same extent as the Queen and does not generate a fraction of the revenue nor the cultural importance, should we abolish her as well?

[Jervak]

Why should I pay taxes for people to be better than the rest?

British tax payers (primarily the working class) pay to feed and clothe those worthless leeches on society that serve no purpose at all.
Just seems like such an absurd concept to begin with... But I guess history and culture are the justifications, as per usual

Ireland's president is useless to the same extent as the Queen and does not generate a fraction of the revenue nor the cultural importance, should we abolish her as well?

Yep.