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Wabbitslayah
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Postby Wabbitslayah » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:26 am

North Prarie wrote:
Carolus Rex Francae wrote:So new people can't receive new regional announcements for 28 days after their founding. :clap:

Good job, mods. I am certain this will have no consequences on member retention in regions that recruit.

That's crap.
If a new nation doesn't want to receive regional announcement TGs, they can filter to block it.
You realize the facts of this case right? Somy didn't recruit outside our region. Merely inside. This is nothing for member retention or regions that recruit.
A regional TG was blocked by the Mods. It was perfectly legal.
Personally, this is a crappy ruling by Moderation and will set not only a double standard but will hurt member retention for in-region agencies.
Power to the GCRs!
EDIT: I was notified by a fellow TSPer that Carolus was being sarcastic. Maybe that's why I had some trouble understanding the purpose of the post :P
My opinion is still the same, however, but I apologize to Carolus.

That isn't the only issue alone. You also have to mark WA to ask people to join the WA just to endorse your delegate instead of marking Regional (Official).
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Frisbeeteria
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:42 am

All right, all right, all right already.

I still think that recruiting for any "military" should be considered recruiting, but I've been convinced both here and from experienced gameplay mods that the Region checkbox suffices. Internal regional affairs must include that checkbox, but players uninterested in such communications have the option to block them as-is.

As such, the OP's warning will be reversed, and the precedent left as it was:
  • Internal regional organizations can send telegrams to region members with the "Region" checkbox checked.
  • External organizational recruiting must use the Recruitment and Organization checkboxes when recruiting outside their region.

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Postby Aumeltopia » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:52 am

Frisbeeteria wrote:All right, all right, all right already.

I still think that recruiting for any "military" should be considered recruiting, but I've been convinced both here and from experienced gameplay mods that the Region checkbox suffices. Internal regional affairs must include that checkbox, but players uninterested in such communications have the option to block them as-is.

As such, the OP's warning will be reversed, and the precedent left as it was:
  • Internal regional organizations can send telegrams to region members with the "Region" checkbox checked.
  • External organizational recruiting must use the Recruitment and Organization checkboxes when recruiting outside their region.

Thank you, moderation, for seeing reason.

Frisbeeteria wrote:I've been convinced both here and from experienced gameplay mods that the Region checkbox suffices. Internal regional affairs must include that checkbox, but players uninterested in such communications have the option to block them as-is.

As an aside, I'm not sure if you're unaware or just using an unusual wording, but there is no "checkbox" for Region (Official) marking. That label is applied automatically to any telegrams from regional officers to their region.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:59 am

Aumeltopia wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:All right, all right, all right already.

I still think that recruiting for any "military" should be considered recruiting, but I've been convinced both here and from experienced gameplay mods that the Region checkbox suffices. Internal regional affairs must include that checkbox, but players uninterested in such communications have the option to block them as-is.

As such, the OP's warning will be reversed, and the precedent left as it was:
  • Internal regional organizations can send telegrams to region members with the "Region" checkbox checked.
  • External organizational recruiting must use the Recruitment and Organization checkboxes when recruiting outside their region.

Thank you, moderation, for seeing reason.

Frisbeeteria wrote:I've been convinced both here and from experienced gameplay mods that the Region checkbox suffices. Internal regional affairs must include that checkbox, but players uninterested in such communications have the option to block them as-is.

As an aside, I'm not sure if you're unaware or just using an unusual wording, but there is no "checkbox" for Region (Official) marking. That label is applied automatically to any telegrams from regional officers to their region.

I think Fris is saying that you can't mass TG your region to get around the fact that people will have Region (official) blocked on their own checkboxes. Send it through the normal game mechanics for RO's and you're fine.
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Postby Davelands » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:01 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:All right, all right, all right already.

I still think that recruiting for any "military" should be considered recruiting, but I've been convinced both here and from experienced gameplay mods that the Region checkbox suffices. Internal regional affairs must include that checkbox, but players uninterested in such communications have the option to block them as-is.

As such, the OP's warning will be reversed, and the precedent left as it was:
  • Internal regional organizations can send telegrams to region members with the "Region" checkbox checked.
  • External organizational recruiting must use the Recruitment and Organization checkboxes when recruiting outside their region.

Yea and thank you for seeing the light!
Glad that Moderation listens and is willing to reverse a decision. That takes some class and perspective that a lot of people don't possess. :bow:

And thank you for finding a way to unite nations and regions from across the game spectrum.
I mean, when was the last time Nazis, Communists, Raiders, and Defenders (to mention a few) saw eye to eye on an issue.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:06 pm

Good to see reason prevail in a relatively timely manner.

I'm looking forward to not having to fear being warned when I send a regionwide telegram promoting regional opportunities to members of my region.
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Postby Kurnugia » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:09 pm

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Wabbitslayah
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Postby Wabbitslayah » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:12 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:All right, all right, all right already.

I still think that recruiting for any "military" should be considered recruiting, but I've been convinced both here and from experienced gameplay mods that the Region checkbox suffices. Internal regional affairs must include that checkbox, but players uninterested in such communications have the option to block them as-is.

As such, the OP's warning will be reversed, and the precedent left as it was:
  • Internal regional organizations can send telegrams to region members with the "Region" checkbox checked.
  • External organizational recruiting must use the Recruitment and Organization checkboxes when recruiting outside their region.

So as Delegate of The Rejected Realms, can I send a mass tg to TRR residents checking Region to ask them to join the WA and endorse me?

Additionally, if I ask them to participate in the WA in any other way then the above, do I have to mark WA instead of Region? (Despite it being internal?)

Can my Communications ROs do any of the above also?
Last edited by Wabbitslayah on Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:33 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Postby Escade » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:58 pm

As a player who has sent out a lot of event\festival regional TGs, I'm glad that order and common sense returns to the NS universe. Thanks for seeing reason!

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