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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:31 am

Liriena wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
You don't need to have an imagination to know what will happen.

Never took you for a feminist-exclusive psychic. :lol2:

His crystal ball has a nipple.
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Postby Tokora » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:56 am

And thus Prolefeed was born.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:54 am

Tokora wrote:And thus Prolefeed was born.

Bundestporn.de


(God I hope it's not A real site).
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:05 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Tokora wrote:And thus Prolefeed was born.

Bundestporn.de


(God I hope it's not A real site).

Looks like you do not need to be reported, Ethel. Not this time, at least.


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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:48 am

Liriena wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
You don't need to have an imagination to know what will happen.

Never took you for a feminist-exclusive psychic. :lol2:


The movement has fucked up every project its undertaken and entrenched misandry and female supremacy wherever its odious theories have been applied. It's not a matter of being psychic, it's a matter of being bored of the people who are still clinging to outdated and gynocentric models of sexism constantly failing wherever their theories are put into practice and refusing to accept that their dogmatic adherence to them is not based on facts or evidence, but prejudice, and those prejudices mean their solutions routinely fuck over men or erase their experiences or frame them entirely through womens perspective.

You may as well be like;
"Never took you for a pre-newtonian physicist exclusive psychic! Who's to say the planes they build will crash? lol!"

the reason feminists don't get to be part of the chain on the whole shoulders of giants thing is that their movement has been actively refusing to countenance criticism or opposition and have prevented their theories being scrapped for better ones for decades now while insisting feminism = equality, like if freudian psychologists kept saying freudianism = psychology despite it being a mess of prejudices, assertions without evidence, etc, and then they went around ruthlessly suppressing actual theories on it and demanding everyone take shitloads of cocaine and fucking up mental health for the public, much like feminists have fucked up gender equality. That behavior? means you go on the scrap heap, along with the geocentrists and creationists, rather than getting a tacit acknowledgement you founded a field of study like the freudians got for not being hostile to progress and science.

You're acting like it's not predictable. It is. It's been predictable for ages. (Reminder that making accurate predictions is how science works, that feminism routinely fails to do so, and anti-feminist critics are pretty good at doing so.) You don't need to be a psychic to know why feminists will fuck this up and make it misandrist, you just need to actually understand sexism, how it works, and why feminism is a crap framework for understanding it riddled with bias, prejudice, and unfounded nonsense. Much like knowing that planes will crash if built by people who have pre-newtonian understandings of physics.

Just because I understand physics enough to know you certainly don't, doesn't make me a psychic.
Just because we understand sexism enough to know why feminism is incapable of dealing with it without entrenching misandry, doesn't make us physic.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:14 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Liriena wrote:Never took you for a feminist-exclusive psychic. :lol2:


The movement has fucked up every project its undertaken and entrenched misandry and female supremacy wherever its odious theories have been applied. It's not a matter of being psychic, it's a matter of being bored of the people who are still clinging to outdated and gynocentric models of sexism constantly failing wherever their theories are put into practice and refusing to accept that their dogmatic adherence to them is not based on facts or evidence, but prejudice, and those prejudices mean their solutions routinely fuck over men or erase their experiences or frame them entirely through womens perspective.

You may as well be like;
"Never took you for a pre-newtonian physicist exclusive psychic! Who's to say the planes they build will crash? lol!"

the reason feminists don't get to be part of the chain on the whole shoulders of giants thing is that their movement has been actively refusing to countenance criticism or opposition and have prevented their theories being scrapped for better ones for decades now while insisting feminism = equality, like if freudian psychologists kept saying freudianism = psychology despite it being a mess of prejudices, assertions without evidence, etc, and then they went around ruthlessly suppressing actual theories on it and demanding everyone take shitloads of cocaine and fucking up mental health for the public, much like feminists have fucked up gender equality. That behavior? means you go on the scrap heap, along with the geocentrists and creationists, rather than getting a tacit acknowledgement you founded a field of study like the freudians got for not being hostile to progress and science.

You're acting like it's not predictable. It is. It's been predictable for ages. (Reminder that making accurate predictions is how science works, that feminism routinely fails to do so, and anti-feminist critics are pretty good at doing so.) You don't need to be a psychic to know why feminists will fuck this up and make it misandrist, you just need to actually understand sexism, how it works, and why feminism is a crap framework for understanding it riddled with bias, prejudice, and unfounded nonsense. Much like knowing that planes will crash if built by people who have pre-newtonian understandings of physics.

Just because I understand physics enough to know you certainly don't, doesn't make me a psychic.
Just because we understand sexism enough to know why feminism is incapable of dealing with it without entrenching misandry, doesn't make us physic.

We get it, women need to shut up about inequality.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:34 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Bundestporn.de


(God I hope it's not A real site).

Looks like you do not need to be reported, Ethel. Not this time, at least.

Bundestporn.gov.de. ?
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:38 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Looks like you do not need to be reported, Ethel. Not this time, at least.

Bundestporn.gov.de. ?

The .gov extension is not common outside the USA. And let's face it, it's not very bloody likely America the Beautiful is going to launch govporn.gov in order to enlighten the huddled masses.


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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:45 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Bundestporn.gov.de. ?

The .gov extension is not common outside the USA. And let's face it, it's not very bloody likely America the Beautiful is going to launch govporn.gov in order to enlighten the huddled masses.


Whitehouse.com use to be a porn site. Sadly no more.
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
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The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:49 pm

I actually don’t really see any problems with this u less I’m missing something
Porns a major industry, they’d probably make their money’s worth, and if porn is done well it’s educational
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:49 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:The .gov extension is not common outside the USA. And let's face it, it's not very bloody likely America the Beautiful is going to launch govporn.gov in order to enlighten the huddled masses.


Whitehouse.com use to be a porn site. Sadly no more.

They took the old whitehouse down? Man that was hilarious
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Postby Nazis in Space » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:00 pm

Party youth organisations proposing unusual stuff?

Weird, the OP wasn't even posted on a Tuesday.

This being said, flicks like Lady Chatterly or De onfatsoenlijke vrouw were already shown on public television decades ago, so, uh...

... not exactly changing a lot there.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:02 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:I actually don’t really see any problems with this u less I’m missing something
Porns a major industry, they’d probably make their money’s worth, and if porn is done well it’s educational


This is a government proposition, which means government jobs. Do you seriously want your porn produced by the German Civil Service.?
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
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The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:10 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I actually don’t really see any problems with this u less I’m missing something
Porns a major industry, they’d probably make their money’s worth, and if porn is done well it’s educational


This is a government proposition, which means government jobs. Do you seriously want your porn produced by the German Civil Service.?

You forget I’m a porn actress, which means I’d get said government job
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Slut Pride. So like, real talk, I’m a porn actress. We’re not all bimbos. I do not give out my information or videos to avoid conflict with site policy. I’m happy to talk about the industry or my thoughts on the career but I will not be showing you any goodies. Sorry
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Postby Ors Might » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:20 pm

Old fat man on skinny eighteen year old is a dime a dozen though. In all seriousness, “a diversity” of body types and ages already exists within porn on the internet, you just have to look for more than a few seconds. Aside from that, my only concern is that this’ll be a waste of taxpayer money to produce what’s essentially ideologically driven government smut. Who knows, maybe Germany will make arousing porn without anything that a feminist would call provlemstic. Could happen, I guess.
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Postby Dushan » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:42 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:I actually don’t really see any problems with this u less I’m missing something
Porns a major industry, they’d probably make their money’s worth, and if porn is done well it’s educational


With the rise of the steaming portals, the profitability of the industry has substantially suffered though.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:17 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
This is a government proposition, which means government jobs. Do you seriously want your porn produced by the German Civil Service.?

You forget I’m a porn actress, which means I’d get said government job

I dont think you understand. You, are not a member of the German Civil service. This is an example of the German Civil Service.


Image


, This is your new woman friendly German porn star.
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--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:19 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:You forget I’m a porn actress, which means I’d get said government job

I dont think you understand. You, are not a member of the German Civil service. This is an example of the German Civil Service.


Image


, This is your new woman friendly German porn star.

Even has a porn stache. Perfect.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:46 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I dont think you understand. You, are not a member of the German Civil service. This is an example of the German Civil Service.


Image


, This is your new woman friendly German porn star.

Even has a porn stache. Perfect.



Vell, do you vant me to vix ein pipes or not?
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The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

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Postby Islands of Washington » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:06 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
This is a government proposition, which means government jobs. Do you seriously want your porn produced by the German Civil Service.?

You forget I’m a porn actress, which means I’d get said government job

Well that is something on this site that I have never seen.

Do you even enjoy your job?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:20 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
The movement has fucked up every project its undertaken and entrenched misandry and female supremacy wherever its odious theories have been applied. It's not a matter of being psychic, it's a matter of being bored of the people who are still clinging to outdated and gynocentric models of sexism constantly failing wherever their theories are put into practice and refusing to accept that their dogmatic adherence to them is not based on facts or evidence, but prejudice, and those prejudices mean their solutions routinely fuck over men or erase their experiences or frame them entirely through womens perspective.

You may as well be like;
"Never took you for a pre-newtonian physicist exclusive psychic! Who's to say the planes they build will crash? lol!"

the reason feminists don't get to be part of the chain on the whole shoulders of giants thing is that their movement has been actively refusing to countenance criticism or opposition and have prevented their theories being scrapped for better ones for decades now while insisting feminism = equality, like if freudian psychologists kept saying freudianism = psychology despite it being a mess of prejudices, assertions without evidence, etc, and then they went around ruthlessly suppressing actual theories on it and demanding everyone take shitloads of cocaine and fucking up mental health for the public, much like feminists have fucked up gender equality. That behavior? means you go on the scrap heap, along with the geocentrists and creationists, rather than getting a tacit acknowledgement you founded a field of study like the freudians got for not being hostile to progress and science.

You're acting like it's not predictable. It is. It's been predictable for ages. (Reminder that making accurate predictions is how science works, that feminism routinely fails to do so, and anti-feminist critics are pretty good at doing so.) You don't need to be a psychic to know why feminists will fuck this up and make it misandrist, you just need to actually understand sexism, how it works, and why feminism is a crap framework for understanding it riddled with bias, prejudice, and unfounded nonsense. Much like knowing that planes will crash if built by people who have pre-newtonian understandings of physics.

Just because I understand physics enough to know you certainly don't, doesn't make me a psychic.
Just because we understand sexism enough to know why feminism is incapable of dealing with it without entrenching misandry, doesn't make us physic.

We get it, women need to shut up about inequality.


Apparently the entire post went above your head. Despite you being here for years, you've not yet advanced at all in your ability to understand an argument. Unless, ofcourse, you can't actually argue the point and so have to pretend not to understand it.

Tell you what.
Why don't you try, for all our amusement at your expense, to actually draw out the point you just made in logical terms, instead of just relying on people not understanding basic logic and siding with you out of spite for their critics. You know, philosophy and shit, the algrebra kind where you lay out the argument in mathemeatical terms, i'm sure we could all use a laugh.

Go ahead gauth, prove to us you aren't just making strawmen out of an inability to have a coherent argument against your critics.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:23 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
The movement has fucked up every project its undertaken and entrenched misandry and female supremacy wherever its odious theories have been applied. It's not a matter of being psychic, it's a matter of being bored of the people who are still clinging to outdated and gynocentric models of sexism constantly failing wherever their theories are put into practice and refusing to accept that their dogmatic adherence to them is not based on facts or evidence, but prejudice, and those prejudices mean their solutions routinely fuck over men or erase their experiences or frame them entirely through womens perspective.

You may as well be like;
"Never took you for a pre-newtonian physicist exclusive psychic! Who's to say the planes they build will crash? lol!"

the reason feminists don't get to be part of the chain on the whole shoulders of giants thing is that their movement has been actively refusing to countenance criticism or opposition and have prevented their theories being scrapped for better ones for decades now while insisting feminism = equality, like if freudian psychologists kept saying freudianism = psychology despite it being a mess of prejudices, assertions without evidence, etc, and then they went around ruthlessly suppressing actual theories on it and demanding everyone take shitloads of cocaine and fucking up mental health for the public, much like feminists have fucked up gender equality. That behavior? means you go on the scrap heap, along with the geocentrists and creationists, rather than getting a tacit acknowledgement you founded a field of study like the freudians got for not being hostile to progress and science.

You're acting like it's not predictable. It is. It's been predictable for ages. (Reminder that making accurate predictions is how science works, that feminism routinely fails to do so, and anti-feminist critics are pretty good at doing so.) You don't need to be a psychic to know why feminists will fuck this up and make it misandrist, you just need to actually understand sexism, how it works, and why feminism is a crap framework for understanding it riddled with bias, prejudice, and unfounded nonsense. Much like knowing that planes will crash if built by people who have pre-newtonian understandings of physics.

Just because I understand physics enough to know you certainly don't, doesn't make me a psychic.
Just because we understand sexism enough to know why feminism is incapable of dealing with it without entrenching misandry, doesn't make us physic.

We get it, women need to shut up about inequality.


We get it, you can't contribute anything constructive.

Liriena wrote:Never took you for a feminist-exclusive psychic. :lol2:


I don't need to be. The mainstream feminist movement in Western countries is hilariously predictable. After all, the wholesale adoption of the Nordic model when it comes to prostitution and the British government's plans to make porn users submit personal details before accessing porn sites pretty much points to active policies that demonise and control male sexuality. This won't be any different.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:29 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:We get it, women need to shut up about inequality.


Apparently the entire post went above your head. Despite you being here for years, you've not yet advanced at all in your ability to understand an argument. Unless, ofcourse, you can't actually argue the point and so have to pretend not to understand it.

Tell you what.
Why don't you try, for all our amusement at your expense, to actually draw out the point you just made in logical terms, instead of just relying on people not understanding basic logic and siding with you out of spite for their critics. You know, philosophy and shit, the algrebra kind where you lay out the argument in mathemeatical terms, i'm sure we could all use a laugh.

Go ahead gauth, prove to us you aren't just making strawmen out of an inability to have a coherent argument against your critics.

No matter the thread topic you always insert your favorite diatribe on how women really have it made in this world and that all of them maliciously oppress all men for the joy and so women have no right to talk about inequality and oppression whatsoever, they should bow before men.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:29 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:We get it, women need to shut up about inequality.


We get it, you can't contribute anything constructive.

Liriena wrote:Never took you for a feminist-exclusive psychic. :lol2:


I don't need to be. The mainstream feminist movement in Western countries is hilariously predictable. After all, the wholesale adoption of the Nordic model when it comes to prostitution and the British government's plans to make porn users submit personal details before accessing porn sites pretty much points to active policies that demonise and control male sexuality. This won't be any different.


1. It's hilarious by this point.

2. Yep. Misandry is rife in the feminist movement, and the more relevant and actually mainstream the feminism, the more toxic and misandrist it is.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:32 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Apparently the entire post went above your head. Despite you being here for years, you've not yet advanced at all in your ability to understand an argument. Unless, ofcourse, you can't actually argue the point and so have to pretend not to understand it.

Tell you what.
Why don't you try, for all our amusement at your expense, to actually draw out the point you just made in logical terms, instead of just relying on people not understanding basic logic and siding with you out of spite for their critics. You know, philosophy and shit, the algrebra kind where you lay out the argument in mathemeatical terms, i'm sure we could all use a laugh.

Go ahead gauth, prove to us you aren't just making strawmen out of an inability to have a coherent argument against your critics.

No matter the thread topic you always insert your favorite diatribe on how women really have it made in this world and that all of them maliciously oppress all men for the joy and so women have no right to talk about inequality and oppression whatsoever, they should bow before men.


Why don't you try quoting a post where i've said all women maliciously oppress men, demonstrate to us that you have basic reading comprehension as a skill. Apparently, the previous challenge;
Why don't you try, for all our amusement at your expense, to actually draw out the point you just made in logical terms, instead of just relying on people not understanding basic logic and siding with you out of spite for their critics. You know, philosophy and shit, the algrebra kind where you lay out the argument in mathemeatical terms, i'm sure we could all use a laugh.

Go ahead gauth, prove to us you aren't just making strawmen out of an inability to have a coherent argument against your critics.


Was one you didn't want to take up. (I suspect because you're well aware you'd fail it.)

So go ahead.
Prove you aren't a hyperbolic liar who can't handle criticism of their ideology and find evidence that I believe:
all women maliciously oppress men


Because i'm bored of you constantly hitting the roof over criticism and throwing out slander against critics. Is it that you're ethically deficient and think lying ot defend bigotry is okay,l or is it that you don't understand basic english?

Or hell, maybe i'm wrong and you've got me dead to rights, prove it and find a quote. Because i'm pretty sure you're just a bog standard feminist and this is a completely accurate assessment of the flaws in your mindset and argument.

45,000 posts. Surely you must have an example that leaps to mind, if you aren't merely being a hyperbolic liar and slanderer.

Tell you what; how about proving this one either;
women have no right to talk about inequality and oppression whatsoever, they should bow before men.


Surely your ENTIRE post can't be unhinged and unbacked by any form of actual evidence or reality whatsover, can it? That would suggest you're a person who argues entirely in bad faith and malicious lies in order to advance a particular cause, and why would feminism need adherents to do that? Gosh.

I know, i'll search my posts.

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Do not vote for open feminists, do not buy their papers or their products. Vote for anti-feminists and support their organizations. Just keep fighting it. Make their activities as difficult as possible, and support WRA alternatives.

When a feminist mob turns up to rant about female rape victims and demonizes men, the MRM and WRM should be there advocating for victims of rape of both genders, of both perpetrators. Ideally, give a female victim of a female rapist a megaphone to scream "FUCKING BIGOTS" at the feminists and hurl invective at them and such, as I gather, thats how these counter protests seem to go. A WRA advocates for women, a feminist demonizes men. Keep pushign that distinction and undermine and marginalize all feminists and feminist influence.


How about your first bit then;

I disagree it's a two way street, i might be being pedantic, but I think it's better to frame it as more multifaceted than that.

You've got:

Men V Men
Men V Women
Women V Women (Examples: Most workplace bullying is woman on woman, slut shaming, etc.)
Women V Men

And subsets of each of those; Benevolent and Hostile, and then the trans element.

I view each of these types of sexism as needing their own approach and narratives to fully comprehend, unfortunately, we're being lumbered with one overarching narrative due to the feminist movement (on the whole) being gynocentrist, and attempting to frame all sexism and peoples experiences of it around a narrative clearly better suited to describing only Men V Women sexism (benevolent+hostile.). I understand and accept you're different and accept other narratives, but that's not the norm.


Oh. So you either don't understand arguments, can't read english, or are lying. Unless, that is, there's a post here on the forums that gave you this impression, and i'm more than happy to concede as much if you find a post that could reasonably lead you to this conclusion about me, but right now i'm happy saying you're either being a duplicitous and insincere liar, or are so sensitive that you can't think straight when your dogma is criticized. By the way, if any feminists on these forums want to gain some cred about "Not all being like that", this is the time for you to swarm in and take on someone.
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