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by Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:54 am
by Hurdergaryp » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:05 am
by Ostroeuropa » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:48 am
by Petrasylvania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:14 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Liriena wrote:Never took you for a feminist-exclusive psychic.
The movement has fucked up every project its undertaken and entrenched misandry and female supremacy wherever its odious theories have been applied. It's not a matter of being psychic, it's a matter of being bored of the people who are still clinging to outdated and gynocentric models of sexism constantly failing wherever their theories are put into practice and refusing to accept that their dogmatic adherence to them is not based on facts or evidence, but prejudice, and those prejudices mean their solutions routinely fuck over men or erase their experiences or frame them entirely through womens perspective.
You may as well be like;
"Never took you for a pre-newtonian physicist exclusive psychic! Who's to say the planes they build will crash? lol!"
the reason feminists don't get to be part of the chain on the whole shoulders of giants thing is that their movement has been actively refusing to countenance criticism or opposition and have prevented their theories being scrapped for better ones for decades now while insisting feminism = equality, like if freudian psychologists kept saying freudianism = psychology despite it being a mess of prejudices, assertions without evidence, etc, and then they went around ruthlessly suppressing actual theories on it and demanding everyone take shitloads of cocaine and fucking up mental health for the public, much like feminists have fucked up gender equality. That behavior? means you go on the scrap heap, along with the geocentrists and creationists, rather than getting a tacit acknowledgement you founded a field of study like the freudians got for not being hostile to progress and science.
You're acting like it's not predictable. It is. It's been predictable for ages. (Reminder that making accurate predictions is how science works, that feminism routinely fails to do so, and anti-feminist critics are pretty good at doing so.) You don't need to be a psychic to know why feminists will fuck this up and make it misandrist, you just need to actually understand sexism, how it works, and why feminism is a crap framework for understanding it riddled with bias, prejudice, and unfounded nonsense. Much like knowing that planes will crash if built by people who have pre-newtonian understandings of physics.
Just because I understand physics enough to know you certainly don't, doesn't make me a psychic.
Just because we understand sexism enough to know why feminism is incapable of dealing with it without entrenching misandry, doesn't make us physic.
by Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:34 pm
by Hurdergaryp » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:38 pm
by Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:45 pm
by Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:49 pm
by Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:49 pm
by Nazis in Space » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:00 pm
by Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:02 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I actually don’t really see any problems with this u less I’m missing something
Porns a major industry, they’d probably make their money’s worth, and if porn is done well it’s educational
by Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:10 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:I actually don’t really see any problems with this u less I’m missing something
Porns a major industry, they’d probably make their money’s worth, and if porn is done well it’s educational
This is a government proposition, which means government jobs. Do you seriously want your porn produced by the German Civil Service.?
by Ors Might » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:20 pm
by Dushan » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:42 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I actually don’t really see any problems with this u less I’m missing something
Porns a major industry, they’d probably make their money’s worth, and if porn is done well it’s educational
by Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:17 pm
by Petrasylvania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:19 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:You forget I’m a porn actress, which means I’d get said government job
I dont think you understand. You, are not a member of the German Civil service. This is an example of the German Civil Service.
, This is your new woman friendly German porn star.
by Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:46 pm
by Islands of Washington » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:06 pm
by Ostroeuropa » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:20 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
The movement has fucked up every project its undertaken and entrenched misandry and female supremacy wherever its odious theories have been applied. It's not a matter of being psychic, it's a matter of being bored of the people who are still clinging to outdated and gynocentric models of sexism constantly failing wherever their theories are put into practice and refusing to accept that their dogmatic adherence to them is not based on facts or evidence, but prejudice, and those prejudices mean their solutions routinely fuck over men or erase their experiences or frame them entirely through womens perspective.
You may as well be like;
"Never took you for a pre-newtonian physicist exclusive psychic! Who's to say the planes they build will crash? lol!"
the reason feminists don't get to be part of the chain on the whole shoulders of giants thing is that their movement has been actively refusing to countenance criticism or opposition and have prevented their theories being scrapped for better ones for decades now while insisting feminism = equality, like if freudian psychologists kept saying freudianism = psychology despite it being a mess of prejudices, assertions without evidence, etc, and then they went around ruthlessly suppressing actual theories on it and demanding everyone take shitloads of cocaine and fucking up mental health for the public, much like feminists have fucked up gender equality. That behavior? means you go on the scrap heap, along with the geocentrists and creationists, rather than getting a tacit acknowledgement you founded a field of study like the freudians got for not being hostile to progress and science.
You're acting like it's not predictable. It is. It's been predictable for ages. (Reminder that making accurate predictions is how science works, that feminism routinely fails to do so, and anti-feminist critics are pretty good at doing so.) You don't need to be a psychic to know why feminists will fuck this up and make it misandrist, you just need to actually understand sexism, how it works, and why feminism is a crap framework for understanding it riddled with bias, prejudice, and unfounded nonsense. Much like knowing that planes will crash if built by people who have pre-newtonian understandings of physics.
Just because I understand physics enough to know you certainly don't, doesn't make me a psychic.
Just because we understand sexism enough to know why feminism is incapable of dealing with it without entrenching misandry, doesn't make us physic.
We get it, women need to shut up about inequality.
by Costa Fierro » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:23 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
The movement has fucked up every project its undertaken and entrenched misandry and female supremacy wherever its odious theories have been applied. It's not a matter of being psychic, it's a matter of being bored of the people who are still clinging to outdated and gynocentric models of sexism constantly failing wherever their theories are put into practice and refusing to accept that their dogmatic adherence to them is not based on facts or evidence, but prejudice, and those prejudices mean their solutions routinely fuck over men or erase their experiences or frame them entirely through womens perspective.
You may as well be like;
"Never took you for a pre-newtonian physicist exclusive psychic! Who's to say the planes they build will crash? lol!"
the reason feminists don't get to be part of the chain on the whole shoulders of giants thing is that their movement has been actively refusing to countenance criticism or opposition and have prevented their theories being scrapped for better ones for decades now while insisting feminism = equality, like if freudian psychologists kept saying freudianism = psychology despite it being a mess of prejudices, assertions without evidence, etc, and then they went around ruthlessly suppressing actual theories on it and demanding everyone take shitloads of cocaine and fucking up mental health for the public, much like feminists have fucked up gender equality. That behavior? means you go on the scrap heap, along with the geocentrists and creationists, rather than getting a tacit acknowledgement you founded a field of study like the freudians got for not being hostile to progress and science.
You're acting like it's not predictable. It is. It's been predictable for ages. (Reminder that making accurate predictions is how science works, that feminism routinely fails to do so, and anti-feminist critics are pretty good at doing so.) You don't need to be a psychic to know why feminists will fuck this up and make it misandrist, you just need to actually understand sexism, how it works, and why feminism is a crap framework for understanding it riddled with bias, prejudice, and unfounded nonsense. Much like knowing that planes will crash if built by people who have pre-newtonian understandings of physics.
Just because I understand physics enough to know you certainly don't, doesn't make me a psychic.
Just because we understand sexism enough to know why feminism is incapable of dealing with it without entrenching misandry, doesn't make us physic.
We get it, women need to shut up about inequality.
Liriena wrote:Never took you for a feminist-exclusive psychic.
by Petrasylvania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:29 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:We get it, women need to shut up about inequality.
Apparently the entire post went above your head. Despite you being here for years, you've not yet advanced at all in your ability to understand an argument. Unless, ofcourse, you can't actually argue the point and so have to pretend not to understand it.
Tell you what.
Why don't you try, for all our amusement at your expense, to actually draw out the point you just made in logical terms, instead of just relying on people not understanding basic logic and siding with you out of spite for their critics. You know, philosophy and shit, the algrebra kind where you lay out the argument in mathemeatical terms, i'm sure we could all use a laugh.
Go ahead gauth, prove to us you aren't just making strawmen out of an inability to have a coherent argument against your critics.
by Ostroeuropa » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:29 pm
Costa Fierro wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:We get it, women need to shut up about inequality.
We get it, you can't contribute anything constructive.Liriena wrote:Never took you for a feminist-exclusive psychic.
I don't need to be. The mainstream feminist movement in Western countries is hilariously predictable. After all, the wholesale adoption of the Nordic model when it comes to prostitution and the British government's plans to make porn users submit personal details before accessing porn sites pretty much points to active policies that demonise and control male sexuality. This won't be any different.
by Ostroeuropa » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:32 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Apparently the entire post went above your head. Despite you being here for years, you've not yet advanced at all in your ability to understand an argument. Unless, ofcourse, you can't actually argue the point and so have to pretend not to understand it.
Tell you what.
Why don't you try, for all our amusement at your expense, to actually draw out the point you just made in logical terms, instead of just relying on people not understanding basic logic and siding with you out of spite for their critics. You know, philosophy and shit, the algrebra kind where you lay out the argument in mathemeatical terms, i'm sure we could all use a laugh.
Go ahead gauth, prove to us you aren't just making strawmen out of an inability to have a coherent argument against your critics.
No matter the thread topic you always insert your favorite diatribe on how women really have it made in this world and that all of them maliciously oppress all men for the joy and so women have no right to talk about inequality and oppression whatsoever, they should bow before men.
Why don't you try, for all our amusement at your expense, to actually draw out the point you just made in logical terms, instead of just relying on people not understanding basic logic and siding with you out of spite for their critics. You know, philosophy and shit, the algrebra kind where you lay out the argument in mathemeatical terms, i'm sure we could all use a laugh.
Go ahead gauth, prove to us you aren't just making strawmen out of an inability to have a coherent argument against your critics.
all women maliciously oppress men
women have no right to talk about inequality and oppression whatsoever, they should bow before men.
Do not vote for open feminists, do not buy their papers or their products. Vote for anti-feminists and support their organizations. Just keep fighting it. Make their activities as difficult as possible, and support WRA alternatives.
When a feminist mob turns up to rant about female rape victims and demonizes men, the MRM and WRM should be there advocating for victims of rape of both genders, of both perpetrators. Ideally, give a female victim of a female rapist a megaphone to scream "FUCKING BIGOTS" at the feminists and hurl invective at them and such, as I gather, thats how these counter protests seem to go. A WRA advocates for women, a feminist demonizes men. Keep pushign that distinction and undermine and marginalize all feminists and feminist influence.
I disagree it's a two way street, i might be being pedantic, but I think it's better to frame it as more multifaceted than that.
You've got:
Men V Men
Men V Women
Women V Women (Examples: Most workplace bullying is woman on woman, slut shaming, etc.)
Women V Men
And subsets of each of those; Benevolent and Hostile, and then the trans element.
I view each of these types of sexism as needing their own approach and narratives to fully comprehend, unfortunately, we're being lumbered with one overarching narrative due to the feminist movement (on the whole) being gynocentrist, and attempting to frame all sexism and peoples experiences of it around a narrative clearly better suited to describing only Men V Women sexism (benevolent+hostile.). I understand and accept you're different and accept other narratives, but that's not the norm.
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