by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:21 am
by Islands of Washington » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:25 am
Agarntrop wrote:A thread discussing the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia.
I know this means a lot to some people but please don't make cancerous comments or use the f word or anything worse. I can mark comments as cancerous by quoting comments and then saying 'marked as cancerous' and you must delete them.
I don't personally think merciful angel was justified, nearly 600 Serbs were killed over ethnic cleansing which was being commited by Yugoslavia. I mean, I'm not saying the ethnic cleansing didn't happen, but it was on the same scale as what NATO allies like Isreal or Saudi Arabia. So I'm not sure it was justified. However, the conflict may have lasted much longer and killed much more innocent people if NATO didn't intervene but I don't think it was really that justified.
by Jute » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:29 am
However, the conflict may have lasted much longer and killed much more innocent people if NATO didn't intervene but I don't think it was really that justified.
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
"Boys and girls so happy, young and gay / Don't let false worldly joy carry your hearts away."
by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:53 am
Jute wrote:However, the conflict may have lasted much longer and killed much more innocent people if NATO didn't intervene but I don't think it was really that justified.
How are these two statements not at odds? Is preventing more innocent people from being killed and ending a conflict not a justification?
by Jute » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:04 am
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
"Boys and girls so happy, young and gay / Don't let false worldly joy carry your hearts away."
by Saiwania » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:24 am
by Torrocca » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:58 am
by Olthar » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:45 am
Agarntrop wrote:A thread discussing the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia.
I know this means a lot to some people but please don't make cancerous comments or use the f word or anything worse. I can mark comments as cancerous by quoting comments and then saying 'marked as cancerous' and you must delete them.
I don't personally think merciful angel was justified, nearly 600 Serbs were killed over ethnic cleansing which was being commited by Yugoslavia. I mean, I'm not saying the ethnic cleansing didn't happen, but it was on the same scale as what NATO allies like Isreal or Saudi Arabia. So I'm not sure it was justified. However, the conflict may have lasted much longer and killed much more innocent people if NATO didn't intervene but I don't think it was really that justified as they killed 600 innocent people doing so and it was hypocritical seeing what Isreal and Saudi Arabia were doing!
by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:58 am
Olthar wrote:Agarntrop wrote:A thread discussing the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia.
I know this means a lot to some people but please don't make cancerous comments or use the f word or anything worse. I can mark comments as cancerous by quoting comments and then saying 'marked as cancerous' and you must delete them.
I don't personally think merciful angel was justified, nearly 600 Serbs were killed over ethnic cleansing which was being commited by Yugoslavia. I mean, I'm not saying the ethnic cleansing didn't happen, but it was on the same scale as what NATO allies like Isreal or Saudi Arabia. So I'm not sure it was justified. However, the conflict may have lasted much longer and killed much more innocent people if NATO didn't intervene but I don't think it was really that justified as they killed 600 innocent people doing so and it was hypocritical seeing what Isreal and Saudi Arabia were doing!
Fucking bombs are so fucking bullshit, you know? Whatever Goddamn fucking cunt decided to bomb shit was a fucking cock sucker.
by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:59 am
by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:00 am
Torrocca wrote:A quick and speedy end was needed to that bullshit going on in the Balkans, and even though the civilian death toll incurred by the operation was a tragedy in its own right, the greater effect of preventing an even greater slaughter and maybe even genocide.
by Olthar » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:01 am
by Torrocca » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:02 am
Agarntrop wrote:Torrocca wrote:A quick and speedy end was needed to that bullshit going on in the Balkans, and even though the civilian death toll incurred by the operation was a tragedy in its own right, the greater effect of preventing an even greater slaughter and maybe even genocide.
Yes it's difficult because the bombing did some horrific things but at the same time it may have prevented more horrific things in Kosovo.
by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:04 am
Torrocca wrote:Agarntrop wrote:
Yes it's difficult because the bombing did some horrific things but at the same time it may have prevented more horrific things in Kosovo.
It's like the nukes being dropped on Japan: fucking horrific in every Goddamn regard possible, but absolutely necessary to bring an end to the war and prevent any further bloodshed, especially in places like China where the bastards in the IJA were committing a fuckload of horrendous atrocities against the Chinese even until they surrendered.
by Torrocca » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:05 am
Agarntrop wrote:Torrocca wrote:
It's like the nukes being dropped on Japan: fucking horrific in every Goddamn regard possible, but absolutely necessary to bring an end to the war and prevent any further bloodshed, especially in places like China where the bastards in the IJA were committing a fuckload of horrendous atrocities against the Chinese even until they surrendered.
I've allways thought it was like Hiroshima and Nagasaki too!
by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:05 am
by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:07 am
Torrocca wrote:Agarntrop wrote:
Yes it's difficult because the bombing did some horrific things but at the same time it may have prevented more horrific things in Kosovo.
It's like the nukes being dropped on Japan: fucking horrific in every Goddamn regard possible, but absolutely necessary to bring an end to the war and prevent any further bloodshed, especially in places like China where the bastards in the IJA were committing a fuckload of horrendous atrocities against the Chinese even until they surrendered.
by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:08 am
Agarntrop wrote:Torrocca wrote:
It's like the nukes being dropped on Japan: fucking horrific in every Goddamn regard possible, but absolutely necessary to bring an end to the war and prevent any further bloodshed, especially in places like China where the bastards in the IJA were committing a fuckload of horrendous atrocities against the Chinese even until they surrendered.
I've allways thought it was like Hiroshima and Nagasaki too!
by Genivaria » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:10 am
Agarntrop wrote:Torrocca wrote:
It's like the nukes being dropped on Japan: fucking horrific in every Goddamn regard possible, but absolutely necessary to bring an end to the war and prevent any further bloodshed, especially in places like China where the bastards in the IJA were committing a fuckload of horrendous atrocities against the Chinese even until they surrendered.
Could you please edit all the f**ks out of that?
by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:10 am
by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:11 am
by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:12 am
by Genivaria » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:13 am
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