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GUN TALK II: Doubletap

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Favorite style of muzzleloader?

Kentucky/Pennsylvania Longrifle
8
33%
Hawken
7
29%
Jaeger
2
8%
Brown Bess
5
21%
Other
2
8%
 
Total votes : 24

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:59 am

Seeing as the last thread has reached 500 pages, I have set up a new one, starting with the original OP.
Last thread: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=311648
Female Air Force Command of Allison wrote:After looking for some time through the forums I was not able to find a thread where people could discuss the guns of their dreams with other people, so I have decided that I would try to make a forum where we could all come together and talk guns.

Just to get started I will tell you a little bit about my favorite gun.
My favorite gun is not a hand held fire arm but I have actually seen this gun tested on a simulated combat warzone that was made at an Air Force base I used to be stationed at:

(Image)

The GAU 8/A Avenger is a minigun commonly used on the front of the modern day A-10 Warthog.
When this baby fires from the skies rounds come out so fast that it takes about 20 seconds after leaving the barrel for the sound to be heard. The fire power on these things can turn a dense forest in to a flat land foundation in one run.

So with that out of the way I would love to hear what guns you are intereasted in.

To add onto this post and share my opinion a little, as you all probably know by now, I love Winchester lever actions. They have a nice design asthetic, wood stocks, and a good design. They're also way out of my price range (for now).

Favorite action?

You may select up to 9 options

Bolt
65
28%
Lever
22
9%
Pump
23
10%
Gas operated
48
20%
Recoil operated
17
7%
Break open
19
8%
Flintlock
17
7%
Caplock
11
5%
Other
13
6%
Total votes : 235


Favorite manufacturer?

You may select up to 10 options

Colt
32
12%
Remington
30
11%
Sig
20
8%
Winchester
23
9%
Ruger
22
8%
Marlin
10
4%
S&W
20
8%
Glock
30
11%
Mauser
33
13%
Other
42
16%
Total votes : 262

Favorite shotgun chambering?

You may select up to 7 options

10
12
11%
12
43
41%
16
8
8%
20
9
9%
28
7
7%
.410 bore
13
12%
Other
13
12%
Total votes : 105

45 ACP vs. 9 mil

You may select up to 5 options

.45 ACP
15
15%
9mm Parabellum
19
19%
Stop beating a dead horse
25
25%
Both
27
27%
Other
14
14%
Total votes : 100

Which is the better right arm?

You may select up to 4 options

The American M14
41
36%
The Belgian FN FAL
34
30%
Both
13
11%
They both stink
26
23%
Total votes : 114

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:08 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:inon1

It's about time we hit 500 pages on the last one.

Yeah.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:You were supposed to use the Latin version, dakka baka!

Was I? I can always change it.
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Postby Isilanka » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:33 am

Muskets are love, muskets are life.
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New gun thread has that lovely new smell, a smell of burnt propellant in the air.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:38 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:New gun thread has that lovely new smell, a smell of burnt propellant in the air.

It also smells of gun oil.
Isilanka wrote:Muskets are love, muskets are life.

Are you talking actual muskets, or modern muzzleloaders?
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Postby Isilanka » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:41 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:New gun thread has that lovely new smell, a smell of burnt propellant in the air.

It also smells of gun oil.
Isilanka wrote:Muskets are love, muskets are life.

Are you talking actual muskets, or modern muzzleloaders?


I am talking actual muskets.
Alright, I've only fired one of these things once, and it was a replica and in fact overral guns tend to leave me completely cold, but I don't know, there's something with early firearms that fascinates me.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:44 am

Isilanka wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:It also smells of gun oil.
Are you talking actual muskets, or modern muzzleloaders?


I am talking actual muskets.
Alright, I've only fired one of these things once, and it was a replica and in fact overral guns tend to leave me completely cold, but I don't know, there's something with early firearms that fascinates me.

Muskets are pretty cool,and look really nice, but I have never actually fired one.
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Postby Isilanka » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:48 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Isilanka wrote:
I am talking actual muskets.
Alright, I've only fired one of these things once, and it was a replica and in fact overral guns tend to leave me completely cold, but I don't know, there's something with early firearms that fascinates me.

Muskets are pretty cool,and look really nice, but I have never actually fired one.


It felt kinda awkward but I don't have many bases for comparison.
I just pictured myself standing in the middle of a battlefield, trying to reload that thing while being fired upon - god, it took some nerve to fight back then.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:49 am

Isilanka wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Muskets are pretty cool,and look really nice, but I have never actually fired one.


It felt kinda awkward but I don't have many bases for comparison.
I just pictured myself standing in the middle of a battlefield, trying to reload that thing while being fired upon - god, it took some nerve to fight back then.

That would take nerves. Was it a flintlock, or a caplock?
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Postby Isilanka » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:53 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Isilanka wrote:
It felt kinda awkward but I don't have many bases for comparison.
I just pictured myself standing in the middle of a battlefield, trying to reload that thing while being fired upon - god, it took some nerve to fight back then.

That would take nerves. Was it a flintlock, or a caplock?


Flintlock. It was a replica of an XVIIIth century French musket though I don't remember the exact model. It was only firing blanks, though - it was a replica used by reenactors.
But then with this kind of weapons I'm more interested in learning how they were maintained and reloaded than in firing them. Yeah, kinda silly, I know.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:56 am

Isilanka wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:That would take nerves. Was it a flintlock, or a caplock?


Flintlock. It was a replica of an XVIIIth century French musket though I don't remember the exact model. It was only firing blanks, though - it was a replica used by reenactors.
But then with this kind of weapons I'm more interested in learning how they were maintained and reloaded than in firing them. Yeah, kinda silly, I know.

I personally prefer caplocks, but flintlocks are cool too. With a musket, you have to make sure to clean any buildup out of the barrel and action.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:01 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:inon1

It's about time we hit 500 pages on the last one.

Yeah.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:You were supposed to use the Latin version, dakka baka!

Was I? I can always change it.

That's the proposed subtitle so yeah!
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:03 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Yeah.
Was I? I can always change it.

That's the proposed subtitle so yeah!

Ok, let me get the Latin translation.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:51 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Isilanka wrote:
Flintlock. It was a replica of an XVIIIth century French musket though I don't remember the exact model. It was only firing blanks, though - it was a replica used by reenactors.
But then with this kind of weapons I'm more interested in learning how they were maintained and reloaded than in firing them. Yeah, kinda silly, I know.

I personally prefer caplocks, but flintlocks are cool too. With a musket, you have to make sure to clean any buildup out of the barrel and action.


I want a wheel and match. Unacceptable holes in action types...
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:57 am

Telconi wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I personally prefer caplocks, but flintlocks are cool too. With a musket, you have to make sure to clean any buildup out of the barrel and action.


I want a wheel and match. Unacceptable holes in action types...

I forgot to add those. Should I make a poll for this thread?
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:07 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I want a wheel and match. Unacceptable holes in action types...

I forgot to add those. Should I make a poll for this thread?


Iunno, just in the BP world those are my next goals. I have caps and a flintlock.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:12 am

Telconi wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I forgot to add those. Should I make a poll for this thread?


Iunno, just in the BP world those are my next goals. I have caps and a flintlock.

Cool. I personally like caplocks the most out of the various types of muskets in existence.
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Colonize other planets! Space! NASA!
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Impaled Nazarene wrote:What is that thick perforated heat shield for the M-16 called? It makes the AR platform look extra villainous.

I'm not sure what it's called.
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