The Precedent of the United States: 2052 Election RP [OOC]

[Ascysia]

What time will the Iowa Primary Start?

Probably after OP does a post re: the debate.
IC was quiet today, I'll post tomorrow.

[Vienna Eliot]

What time will the Iowa Primary Start?

I’m going to post a news article about the debate later tonight, and then a little bit after that post the results.

[Vienna Eliot]

The Iowa Caucus results have been posted. Sorry about not posting much — I've been busy today. The debates were factored into the results.

You have my word that I will make future results releases more interesting than just posting them! Today was an exception.

edit: One more thing — delegate totals. I'm going to use the allocations for 2016. This isn't ideal, but it will make it possible for everyone to look them up and strategize based on them; calculating them myself would require a lot of worldbuilding on my part that is best left to the roleplay as a whole (for instance, how a state swung in 2048, or what the party of each governor is).

edit edit: I'm going to modify totals a little bit, based on how population has shifted.

[Zjaum]

Considering that none of our quotes were used for the most recent debate, could we reuse some of them for the next debate?

[Vienna Eliot]

Considering that none of our quotes were used for the most recent debate, could we reuse some of them for the next debate?

Yes.

[Vienna Eliot]

I'm going to push the New Hampshire primaries back by one day, to the 22nd, if there are no objections. I'll have a few news articles up tonight and the revised delegate allocation for each state.

[Cainesland]

I'm going to push the New Hampshire primaries back by one day, to the 22nd, if there are no objections. I'll have a few news articles up tonight and the revised delegate allocation for each state.

Sounds fine. I will probably try and get a post out tomorrow.

[New Cobastheia]

I'm going to push the New Hampshire primaries back by one day, to the 22nd, if there are no objections. I'll have a few news articles up tonight and the revised delegate allocation for each state.

I that going to include Guess in it? You never got back to me on that telegram

[Vienna Eliot]

I'm going to push the New Hampshire primaries back by one day, to the 22nd, if there are no objections. I'll have a few news articles up tonight and the revised delegate allocation for each state.

I that going to include Guess in it? You never got back to me on that telegram

The NH primary will include Guess.

[Helowi]

Just posted a schedule.

[Vienna Eliot]

State	Delegates
Alabama	41
Alaska	16
Arizona	95
Arkansas	27
California	322
Colorado	73
Connecticut	47
Delaware	21
District of Columbia	20
Florida	229
Georgia	108
Hawaii	25
Idaho	23
Illinois	156
Indiana	68
Iowa	37
Kansas	28
Kentucky	48
Louisiana	45
Maine	19
Maryland	95
Massachusetts	91
Michigan	106
Minnesota	69
Mississippi	30
Missouri	57
Montana	21
Nebraska	20
Nevada	58
New Hampshire	24
New Jersey	144
New Mexico	34
New York	230
North Carolina	107
North Dakota	18
Ohio	111
Oklahoma	33
Oregon	61
Pennsylvania	142
Rhode Island	18
South Carolina	47
South Dakota	20
Tennessee	55
Texas	263
Utah	33
Vermont	16
Virginia	95
Washington	101
West Virginia	23
Wisconsin	77
Wyoming	14
American Samoa	6
Virgin Islands	7
Puerto Rico	60
Northern Marianas	6
Democrats Abroad	13
Guam	7

State	Delegates
Alabama	39
Alaska	28
Arizona	74
Arkansas	33
California	225
Colorado	41
Connecticut	24
Delaware	16
District of Columbia	19
Florida	106
Georgia	81
Hawaii	19
Idaho	32
Illinois	69
Indiana	47
Iowa	25
Kansas	33
Kentucky	40
Louisiana	40
Maine	17
Maryland	38
Massachusetts	42
Michigan	48
Minnesota	34
Mississippi	33
Missouri	42
Montana	27
Nebraska	29
Nevada	50
New Hampshire	23
New Jersey	58
New Mexico	24
New York	88
North Carolina	72
North Dakota	26
Ohio	51
Oklahoma	37
Oregon	28
Pennsylvania	53
Rhode Island	14
South Carolina	44
South Dakota	29
Tennessee	47
Texas	184
Utah	40
Vermont	16
Virginia	49
Washington	44
West Virginia	27
Wisconsin	38
Wyoming	29
American Samoa	9
U.S. Virgin Islands	9
Puerto Rico	23
Northern Mariana Is.	9
Guam	9

[Vodenheim]

Just wanna state for full disclosure I'm going to mudsling at everyone's candidate, my character's going to be an asshole about it, but if your character is an extension of you and I think everyone's is to some degree I'm not trying to attack you as a person just char. So again it's an rp I'm rping char I wanna to apologize in advance for the douchebagery to come. If you want me to tone it down I will just ask. Thanks!

[New Cobastheia]

Just wanna state for full disclosure I'm going to mudsling at everyone's candidate, my character's going to be an asshole about it, but if your character is an extension of you and I think everyone's is to some degree I'm not trying to attack you as a person just char. So again it's an rp I'm rping char I wanna to apologize in advance for the doubagery to come. If you want me to tone it down I will just ask. Thanks!

And then he doesn't even mention Guess by name, and is only like get rid of the Premier.

Which is like, I know it's politics and all, but does anyone actually know why the title is Premier, both in the IC and OOC?

[Vodenheim]

Just wanna state for full disclosure I'm going to mudsling at everyone's candidate, my character's going to be an asshole about it, but if your character is an extension of you and I think everyone's is to some degree I'm not trying to attack you as a person just char. So again it's an rp I'm rping char I wanna to apologize in advance for the doubagery to come. If you want me to tone it down I will just ask. Thanks!

And then he doesn't even mention Guess by name, and is only like get rid of the Premier.

Which is like, I know it's politics and all, but does anyone actually know why the title is Premier, both in the IC and OOC?

I did that for a reason, to make him sound amateurish and brutish. But, I kinda understood why the name change in Cali happened but then again I don't understand fully how or why it happened. If you can elaborate or point me to where you explained how Guess manage to change the title I'd appreciate it.

[New Cobastheia]

And then he doesn't even mention Guess by name, and is only like get rid of the Premier.

Which is like, I know it's politics and all, but does anyone actually know why the title is Premier, both in the IC and OOC?

I did that for a reason, to make him sound amateurish and brutish. But, I kinda understood why the name change in Cali happened but then again I don't understand fully how or why it happened. If you can elaborate or point me to where you explained how Guess manage to change the title I'd appreciate it.

Oh, I don't mind elaborated at all, you're not the first person to go Guess = Soviet.

Ok, so in our current times there is a few people who want to ditch the current constitution of California, it's not a major movement currently though. So then, while I'm world building I made it so a Republican wins the Governorship in 2038 because of the top-2 system and spoiler effect, and because this is California, the Governor wasn't all that well liked and the result of the election ended up being what was needed to push for a new Constitution in California.

In 2042, Guess ran after a lot of people signed a petition to get him to run, he won and started up the process of Constitutional Convention. It being a convention and him being a Governor who prefers Parliamentary Systems, he fought for it in the Convention and it was settled on that. But then the Senate of California was all like, "We don't want to be abolished!" Which lead to a Semi-Parliamentary System and a 200 member unicameral legislator in California called the California Parliament. Then the Third California Constitution got approved by, I think in the Congress needs to approve it so ya. But because people like to dissent, the Constitution is currently in Court because the OP said so and I was like, that makes sense and I don't know much about the US Court System.

Additionally, this constitutional change would of course come with its fair share of dissenters. Consequently, it will have been in court for the past couple of years — first in California state courts, which eventually refused to hear the case, then working its way up through the federal courts on U.S. Constitutional grounds (Article IV and 14th Amendment), and to the Supreme Court, which in 2050 remanded it back to Federal District Court for concerns of justiciability. Now, Circuit Court deliberations have concluded recently and an opinion will be issued soon, after which it may again go to the Supreme Court.

Ok and then on to why he's a Premier and not like a Governor or Prime Minister. Not Governor because I couldn't find a single Parliamentary System that titles in Sub-national heads of government, Governor. Not Prime Minister because that's like the person in charge of the Federal Government, not State Governments. Yes Premier because it turns out like every Sub-National Leader under Parliamentary Systems in the English Speaking world, besides in the UK, is titled Premier. Just looked up Premier of British Columbia, or Western Cape, or New South Wales.

[New Cobastheia]

Ok, so the link is now this

Link updated with Hastings

So, does anyone else want keep up with the Political Compass chart?

[Ascysia]

Sorry for my lack of activity, I've been busy the past few days dealing with visas and such.

[Helowi]

Will the results for New Hampshire be tonight?

[Vienna Eliot]

Sorry all, my computer broke down for two days. I will post news articles and NH primary results tomorrow, and shift Minnesota, South Dakota, Maine, Vermont, and Wyoming to Super Tuesday. Let all return to normal.

[Cainesland]

Will we be getting a telegram for New Hampshire as well?

[Helowi]

Slow week I’m guessing.

[New Cobastheia]

Slow week I’m guessing.

Ya, I have alot of stuff IRL going on this week. Mainly just waiting for New Hampshire to be released to write some more stuff I have planned out in my head in the IC

[Helowi]

Are you gonna post the results tonight?

[Vienna Eliot]

Are you gonna post the results tonight?

Yes, typing them now.

[Zjaum]

I will post early tomorrow. Happy Memorial Day weekend, everyone! Try and get some rest, and remember all those who have fallen to... gosh, we really haven't had a threat to the United States in 150 years, have we? Well, remember all those who have fallen to make American culture one of the most prominent in the world (I guess)!