Trump MAGAThread XII: A Tarriff-ic Thread!

[Jerzylvania]

Will you now? What about the stench that is Pence?

Like I've said, Pence is not an evil genius as Indiana proved and him becoming President doesn't mean the Stonewall Inn spontaneously combusts and burns down.

I also have mentioned this as well. Pence will do in a pinch ...with a Democratic House and it isn't anywhere as bad as continuing the current horror show.

[Jerzylvania]

As long as we are rid of him, fine.

It occurred to me that this is his out. This is the way out where he can continue to play the victim of the mean ol' system without having to end up under the continued scrutiny that might reveal some legitimate wrong doing that extends beyond his presidency. That maybe Giuliani negotiating an end to the Mueller probe might take the form of helping Trump 'fall on his sword' (nope...nope that colloquialism is gross in context...) for the Daniels thing so that the Mueller thing never reaches him. He goes out on something like this, talks about how the system is rigged and they never found 'collusion' and retires to what he initially planned before he figured out he could win this thing.

No matter the exact cause, he'll resign while simultaneously playing the victim card and say he's protecting his family from the slings and arrows meant for him. Hopefully, the State of NY will provide some sort of justice in his matter. Obviously, the State of NY has access to his federal tax returns and plenty of new information which may detail financial crimes. Once he's a private citizen he's game. Either way, he's going to be one fucking weird ex-president.

[Tobleste]

I don't think Trump would resign just because he got some booty years ago. The Constitution doesn't make sexual intercourse an offense and Republicans have majority in both Houses, so impeachment is unrealistic. But I think he is not fit for presidency

No one really cares that he had sex. Actually, the less we can think about that specifically the better. He has had three wives and during the campaign no less managed to have evidence of him bragging about sexual assault. He talked on radio about barging into dressing rooms during beauty shows and when women complained that he barged into dressing rooms during beauty shows it was met with a shrug by his supporters.

Like with Clinton, it's not about the sex. We know that Trump is a horn dog and we had a referendum on it and enough people decided that they didn't give a shit.

But apparently Trump and Cohen thought this, for some reason, would be too much during the election and therefore Cohen paid Daniels $130,000 to shut the fuck up about it so it wouldn't effect the campaign.

If it was a campaign expense, money spent expressly for the campaign, then that falls under campaign finance laws where it would be illegal.

This is still getting Capone on tax evasion. This is an out of nowhere wound that they can't seem to help picking at. No one was investigating his adventures in dick. This is just regular ass out of control Donald.

I agree with this. I dont understand why he felt the need to pay off Daniels. He could have admitted to the sexual assault allegations and kept 99.9% of his supporters so who cares about an affair?

[Petrasylvania]

I agree with this. I dont understand why he felt the need to pay off Daniels. He could have admitted to the sexual assault allegations and kept 99.9% of his supporters so who cares about an affair?

Because Donnie is so thin skinned if he wasn't obese we'd see musculature.

The raid on Harold "Fraggle Doc" Bornstein's office over talk of Donnie taking Propecia shows that Donnie is an impulsive snowflake who is very likely to overreact to something that even his critics would not find criminal with something that is likely to be criminal.

[Ifreann]

No one really cares that he had sex. Actually, the less we can think about that specifically the better. He has had three wives and during the campaign no less managed to have evidence of him bragging about sexual assault. He talked on radio about barging into dressing rooms during beauty shows and when women complained that he barged into dressing rooms during beauty shows it was met with a shrug by his supporters.

Like with Clinton, it's not about the sex. We know that Trump is a horn dog and we had a referendum on it and enough people decided that they didn't give a shit.

But apparently Trump and Cohen thought this, for some reason, would be too much during the election and therefore Cohen paid Daniels $130,000 to shut the fuck up about it so it wouldn't effect the campaign.

If it was a campaign expense, money spent expressly for the campaign, then that falls under campaign finance laws where it would be illegal.

This is still getting Capone on tax evasion. This is an out of nowhere wound that they can't seem to help picking at. No one was investigating his adventures in dick. This is just regular ass out of control Donald.

I agree with this. I dont understand why he felt the need to pay off Daniels. He could have admitted to the sexual assault allegations and kept 99.9% of his supporters so who cares about an affair?

*did

[Ascoobis]

I hope so too...

Who in their right mind wants Donnie Trump to be their hostage negotiator?
"You're going to kill them? Sure you will, I bet you don't have the balls to really do it!"

Remember, he likes the ones that weren't captured.

[Telconi]

Clinton wasn't impeached, the Senate never went forward with it iirc.

Impeachment is the action of the House in bringing charges. The Senate absolutely went forward with it, there was a trial, the Chief Justice presiding, and he was acquitted.

And the charge wasn't "getting some nasty from Mrs. Lewinsky" so no, Clinton still wasn't impeached for that...

[Vassenor]

So Trump's back to ruling by decree and has put a knife in the Separation of Church and State in the process.

Trump Signs “Religious Freedom” Executive Order On National Day Of Prayer, Creating Faith-Based Office

[New Emeline]

So Trump's back to ruling by decree and has put a knife in the Separation of Church and State in the process.

Trump Signs “Religious Freedom” Executive Order On National Day Of Prayer, Creating Faith-Based Office

what the fuck
is that fake

[Geneviev]

So Trump's back to ruling by decree and has put a knife in the Separation of Church and State in the process.

Trump Signs “Religious Freedom” Executive Order On National Day Of Prayer, Creating Faith-Based Office

If that's real... I cry. If that's fake... the fact that I thought it was real for a second is sad and I cry.

American politics: The main cause of dehydration at this point.

"Separation of church and state" exists for a reason, Mr. President. It's so people who aren't your religion can still be happy. If you're reading this, please reconsider your decision, sir. We need our First Amendment rights protected, please, sir. It's rather important.

[Petrasylvania]

So Trump's back to ruling by decree and has put a knife in the Separation of Church and State in the process.

Trump Signs “Religious Freedom” Executive Order On National Day Of Prayer, Creating Faith-Based Office

And Evangelicals are cheering him on to no surprise.

Odds on this faith office excluding Those Dirty Muslims?

[Washington Resistance Army]

So Trump's back to ruling by decree and has put a knife in the Separation of Church and State in the process.

Trump Signs “Religious Freedom” Executive Order On National Day Of Prayer, Creating Faith-Based Office

From a quick glance over the article nothing seems to be illegal about this.

[Valgora]

So Trump's back to ruling by decree and has put a knife in the Separation of Church and State in the process.

Trump Signs “Religious Freedom” Executive Order On National Day Of Prayer, Creating Faith-Based Office

Sweet merciful Jesus fuckin' Christ
You've got to be fuckin' kidding me.

[Fartsniffage]

So Trump's back to ruling by decree and has put a knife in the Separation of Church and State in the process.

Trump Signs “Religious Freedom” Executive Order On National Day Of Prayer, Creating Faith-Based Office

From a quick glance over the article nothing seems to be illegal about this.

Today’s order also includes language further undermining the Johnson Amendment, offering added protections for “any individual, house of worship, or other religious organization” who make political statements from any “action that makes unavailable or denies any tax deduction, exemption, credit, or benefit.”

[Geneviev]

So Trump's back to ruling by decree and has put a knife in the Separation of Church and State in the process.

Trump Signs “Religious Freedom” Executive Order On National Day Of Prayer, Creating Faith-Based Office

From a quick glance over the article nothing seems to be illegal about this.

According to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Translated: Government does not control religion and religion does not control government.

[Camicon]

It's something that actually happened.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-st ... ed-states/

[Arlenton]

So Trump's back to ruling by decree and has put a knife in the Separation of Church and State in the process.

Trump Signs “Religious Freedom” Executive Order On National Day Of Prayer, Creating Faith-Based Office

Banging porn stars while solidifying the religious right vote. An absolute madman!

[Hittanryan]

So Trump's back to ruling by decree and has put a knife in the Separation of Church and State in the process.

Trump Signs “Religious Freedom” Executive Order On National Day Of Prayer, Creating Faith-Based Office

I hate how conservatives made "religious freedom" a buzzword for electrocuting gays and promoting back alley abortions.

[Ifreann]

So Trump's back to ruling by decree and has put a knife in the Separation of Church and State in the process.

Trump Signs “Religious Freedom” Executive Order On National Day Of Prayer, Creating Faith-Based Office

From a quick glance over the article nothing seems to be illegal about this.

Of course there isn't. Mike Pence probably wrote it. After getting legal advice. It probably amounts to almost nothing of consequence beyond making Christian theocrats have sinful feelings in their pants.

[Vassenor]

From a quick glance over the article nothing seems to be illegal about this.

According to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Translated: Government does not control religion and religion does not control government.

But every time I've brought that up I always get told that just means the government cannot stop you forming a religious movement. I am not sure where that idea comes from.

[Washington Resistance Army]

From a quick glance over the article nothing seems to be illegal about this.

Today’s order also includes language further undermining the Johnson Amendment, offering added protections for “any individual, house of worship, or other religious organization” who make political statements from any “action that makes unavailable or denies any tax deduction, exemption, credit, or benefit.”

Saw that, but given his previous EO on the topic was decried for also undermining the Johnson Amendment and afaik nothing was ever declared illegal about that one. It really just amounts to bone throwing for the evangelical community.

From a quick glance over the article nothing seems to be illegal about this.

According to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Translated: Government does not control religion and religion does not control government.

That's... not exactly what it means.

[Ifreann]

According to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution:


Translated: Government does not control religion and religion does not control government.

But every time I've brought that up I always get told that just means the government cannot stop you forming a religious movement. I am not sure where that idea comes from.

A shallow reading of the text.

[Geneviev]

It's something that actually happened.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-st ... ed-states/

I cry.

Dear Mr. President,
I am a good American citizen. I have never done anything illegal. I attend school and have ambitions to serve my country as a forensic psychologist. I was raised in a conservative Christian family. I am exactly the perfect definition of a good American. The only exception to this is my gender, which I can not help. Christians like yourself often assume that it not only is something I can change, but something I should change. They seem to feel justified in citing religion as a reason to not associate with me and not help me. Laws and executive orders and any action from the government that confirm the idea that religion is more important than humanity only make this problem worse.

My hope for this country is that it will eventually be able to reconcile freedom of religion as it was first intended to be applied with the modern conservative Christian view of it. Mr. President, freedom of religion means that the government does not get involved in religion.

[Fartsniffage]

Saw that, but given his previous EO on the topic was decried for also undermining the Johnson Amendment and afaik nothing was ever declared illegal about that one. It really just amounts to bone throwing for the evangelical community.

Is this the point we're at? The sitting US president needs to commit a crime to be criticised for something?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Saw that, but given his previous EO on the topic was decried for also undermining the Johnson Amendment and afaik nothing was ever declared illegal about that one. It really just amounts to bone throwing for the evangelical community.

Is this the point we're at? The sitting US president needs to commit a crime to be criticised for something?

Oh no you're free to criticize, I think it's dumb as shit myself. Vassenor just seems to think everything violates the First Amendment without ever bothering to learn what each clause in it means and restricts the government from doing.