[Abandoned] Liberate Union of Confederate Regions

[Arkhall]

Also, nobody calls it UoCR. It's the UCR, we call ourselves the UCR, stop using UoCR.

Yea, but to most of gameplay UCR means User Created Region, every time I see UCR that's what I think.

That's why it's "the UCR"

[Rrborn]

Id add the Lemming Effect and the Superdelegates to that list.

I will get this to pass. I'm afraid that UoCR is an even larger offender then FGGR, THRB, TIO, or SCUT, only barely below KR.

I've never scene a bigger lie

How? What's UCR done? Nothing?

[Rrborn]

It's nice that you think that. There still is no point liberating this region because it doesn't have a password, has a founder, and has a non-executive delegate.

In fact, what you're trying to do is worse than doing nothing. If you pass a liberation resolution, you're actually going to decrease the chances of the founder CTE'ing because they'll be more vigilant.

And even if the founder does somehow CTE, UCR is completely unraidable because they currently have 161 endorsements on the delegate.

Just please stop, this is not going to pass and if by some miracle it does, the liberation will do jack squat.

We have a set line of successors in the UCR if Langor needs to go inactive. (This is Krualstiken, by the way.) We're set for years to come, and even then, I completely fail to see how we've done anything large enough of note that's *negative* to warrant any kind of punishment, regardless of if it would do anything or not.

The only offense, as far as I can tell, is that we've got furries. (A fucking lot of them), and we've got weebs. We're an odd mix of "oh hecc the UCR is liberal" and "oh hey they've got one nazi (Though lets be honest, Stahlrahm is usually meming) so the entire region is a nazi region and collaborator" We're not fascist in the same way that an oligarchy disguising itself as a monarchy isn't fascist. Corruption doesn't mean fascism, ei?

People like La Navaseserersrs take a look at our region, and badges being their only goal, they seek to find the most minute flaws and blow them out of proportion. Patria did this when he tried to condemn us, La Naveresesrs will do this when trying to 'liberate' us. They completely fail to outline the positives. We've got a learning and mentoring system for new RPers, we have a job system, we have one of the most active and detailed roleplay environments out there, and we still continue to grow and change to adapt to whats needed. I fail to see how raiding less than ten regions, however enthusiastic at the time we were, warrants a "warmongering" status. (Let's be honest, that was a while ago, and we stopped because it wasn't worth the effort. RP is more profitable when it comes to activity and spreading influence.) Our current "military" is just a mutual defense pact, and a joke.

I'd say that given evidence of fascist, and possibly Nazi, elements, of UoCR, there would be a high likelihood of invasion regardless.

Are you talking about Stahlrahm? He's the only nazi there, and I can't tell if he's serious or not. He doesn't try to push his beliefs on anyone, try to enforce anything within the government, nor influence policy. He's there, and he RPs, that's it.

If you're referring to the government, we're an oligarchy disguised as a monarchy, ei? Just because you don't know our inner circles doesn't make it fascist. Langors decisions are discussed heavily beforehand (Usually.) Other than Stahl or the ""Monarchy"", I fail to see any indication of fascist elements. We have strict rules on citizenship, is that it, perhaps? We have stricter rules on who can be in the government. Golly, is a lack of citizen participation in the government fascism? No, we've had too many coups in the past, and we are negating any chance of any such thing happening.

Your claims are falsified and hyperbole.

Your intentions are fame and greed.

Your train is losing steam, and when it does, you will be forgotten. Badges mean nothing if you're nothing without them. They're the only thing bringing you to relevance right now.

Cease your activity, try to regain your dignity, and start over. You're clearly disliked in the community, yet you continue to start actions and movements that draw more negative opinions and sentiment.

Wow...that's...that's the most beautiful thing I've read all day

[The Fatheland]

This is just getting sad, your resolutions are failing and your reputation is at an all time low.

[Indo-Malaysia]

This is just getting sad, your resolutions are failing and your reputation is at an all time low.

And that's considering that Aimdar was a collaborator with Nazi Europa and The Iron Guard..

[Arkhall]

We have a set line of successors in the UCR if Langor needs to go inactive. (This is Krualstiken, by the way.) We're set for years to come, and even then, I completely fail to see how we've done anything large enough of note that's *negative* to warrant any kind of punishment, regardless of if it would do anything or not.

The only offense, as far as I can tell, is that we've got furries. (A fucking lot of them), and we've got weebs. We're an odd mix of "oh hecc the UCR is liberal" and "oh hey they've got one nazi (Though lets be honest, Stahlrahm is usually meming) so the entire region is a nazi region and collaborator" We're not fascist in the same way that an oligarchy disguising itself as a monarchy isn't fascist. Corruption doesn't mean fascism, ei?

People like La Navaseserersrs take a look at our region, and badges being their only goal, they seek to find the most minute flaws and blow them out of proportion. Patria did this when he tried to condemn us, La Naveresesrs will do this when trying to 'liberate' us. They completely fail to outline the positives. We've got a learning and mentoring system for new RPers, we have a job system, we have one of the most active and detailed roleplay environments out there, and we still continue to grow and change to adapt to whats needed. I fail to see how raiding less than ten regions, however enthusiastic at the time we were, warrants a "warmongering" status. (Let's be honest, that was a while ago, and we stopped because it wasn't worth the effort. RP is more profitable when it comes to activity and spreading influence.) Our current "military" is just a mutual defense pact, and a joke.


Are you talking about Stahlrahm? He's the only nazi there, and I can't tell if he's serious or not. He doesn't try to push his beliefs on anyone, try to enforce anything within the government, nor influence policy. He's there, and he RPs, that's it.

If you're referring to the government, we're an oligarchy disguised as a monarchy, ei? Just because you don't know our inner circles doesn't make it fascist. Langors decisions are discussed heavily beforehand (Usually.) Other than Stahl or the ""Monarchy"", I fail to see any indication of fascist elements. We have strict rules on citizenship, is that it, perhaps? We have stricter rules on who can be in the government. Golly, is a lack of citizen participation in the government fascism? No, we've had too many coups in the past, and we are negating any chance of any such thing happening.

Your claims are falsified and hyperbole.

Your intentions are fame and greed.

Your train is losing steam, and when it does, you will be forgotten. Badges mean nothing if you're nothing without them. They're the only thing bringing you to relevance right now.

Cease your activity, try to regain your dignity, and start over. You're clearly disliked in the community, yet you continue to start actions and movements that draw more negative opinions and sentiment.

Wow...that's...that's the most beautiful thing I've read all day

<3 Nice to know, I love writing in theatric.

[Captain Woodhouse]

This is just getting sad, your resolutions are failing and your reputation is at an all time low.

And that's considering that Aimdar was a collaborator with Nazi Europa and The Iron Guard..

That horse you're riding is so high it's almost in orbit.

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A couple months before you claimed NE was only interested in 'getting rid of left-wingers' and were persecuted 'for a while just for their name', I'd made several forum posts exposing NE's Discord that makes KAISERREICH's look like preschool fluff. GD and his remaining staff had made it clear on NE's RMB that they were taking NE in a bona fide Nazi direction.The cat was out of the bag on GD, The Gregorach and others who had lied about their politics, yet still you sympathized with NE.

You've quoted my Dank Memes dispatch in the Condemn La Navasse thread. What part of the last two paragraphs don't you understand? La Navasse didn't collaborate with a racist toilet. He approached me—Captain Woodhouse—exclusively. NE had no say whatsoever in DM business.

NE was given raider relevance in the Repeal Nazi Europa thread when they haven't raided shit since I left and appear to have neither ability nor inclination to do so.

Once again, you and others appear to be working hard to give relevance to a toilet that exists now only to recruit racists, anti-Semites and porn purveyors to a Discord sewer.

[Indo-Malaysia]

And that's considering that Aimdar was a collaborator with Nazi Europa and The Iron Guard..

That horse you're riding is so high it's almost in orbit.

viewtopic.php?p=30865702#p30865702

A couple months before you claimed NE was only interested in 'getting rid of left-wingers' and were persecuted 'for a while just for their name', I'd made several forum posts exposing NE's Discord that makes KAISERREICH's look like preschool fluff. GD and his remaining staff had made it clear on NE's RMB that they were taking NE in a bona fide Nazi direction.The cat was out of the bag on GD, The Gregorach and others who had lied about their politics, yet still you sympathized with NE.

You've quoted my Dank Memes dispatch in the Condemn La Navasse thread. What part of the last two paragraphs don't you understand? La Navasse didn't collaborate with a racist toilet. He approached me—Captain Woodhouse—exclusively. NE had no say whatsoever in DM business.

NE was given raider relevance in the Repeal Nazi Europa thread when they haven't raided shit since I left and appear to have neither ability nor inclination to do so.

Once again, you and others appear to be working hard to give relevance to a toilet that exists now only to recruit racists, anti-Semites and porn purveyors to a Discord sewer.

Back then, I was relatively naive, having only moved to this sort of stuff from crappy Roleplaying in International Incidents.

I have seen the sort of stuff now for what it is. It is undeniable that NE is a blight on this site. It thankfully remained as an irrelevant trash hole after you went to BLITZKRIEG until Aimdar put it in the spotlight and awarded it legitimacy.

I despise the pettiness of ideological gameplay, but I would have rather seen this region die with less fanfare and drums.
Despite being well intentioned, the fact these foundered regions are given shiny badges serves only to promote them, worsening this growing cancer.

[Captain Woodhouse]

I have seen the sort of stuff now for what it is. It is undeniable that NE is a blight on this site. It thankfully remained as an irrelevant trash hole after you went to BLITZKRIEG until Aimdar put it in the spotlight and awarded it legitimacy.

I despise the pettiness of ideological gameplay, but I would have rather seen this region die with less fanfare and drums.
Despite being well intentioned, the fact these foundered regions are given shiny badges serves only to promote them, worsening this growing cancer.

I'm all for using Offensive Liberations on the game's toilets. Unlike Condemnations, Offensive Libs carry potential negative clout, and the sticker looks about as badass as a pic of fat crayons. Done properly and conservatively, an offensive Lib resolution can be a decent smackdown.

Unfortunately, La Navasse hasn't figured out how to hurt a toilet without elevating its gameplay stock simultaneously, ergo the 'legitimacy' perception. La Navasse thinks he has to manufacture gameplay potency where none exists to sell his Libs.

Worse, La Navasse's ability to recognize a toilet began and ended with NE. Looks like nothing short of total disgrace will stop him from trying to slap an offensive Lib sticker on every backwater bullshit in the game with a vague fascist connection.

I love a good hoist by one's own petard.

[La Navasse]

Though I have Shelved my previous two proposals Liberate Arcem (SCUT) and Liberate USSD, Liberate Union of Confederate Regions is still being considered on the topic of whether to be moved forth with and the possibility of placing UoCR on the same level as NE and KR. I will have approximately a one week Decision Period, from which I will review posts in this thread (though not respond), whence I shall make my final decision.

[Kaboomlandia]

Trying to liberate this region is an even worse idea than the other one because this one has a huge-endorsement delegate.

[Krualstiken]

Trying to liberate this region is an even worse idea than the other one because this one has a huge-endorsement delegate.

*waves*

[Krualstiken]

Though I have Shelved my previous two proposals Liberate Arcem (SCUT) and Liberate USSD, Liberate Union of Confederate Regions is still being considered on the topic of whether to be moved forth with and the possibility of placing UoCR on the same level as NE and KR. I will have approximately a one week Decision Period, from which I will review posts in this thread (though not respond), whence I shall make my final decision.

A decision period of "how much attention can I milk out of this?", actually. That's what you're doing.

Again, you can't place us on any level of guilt. We aren't Nazi collaborators. We're an oligarchic RP REGION that hasn't seen any military action in absolute ages. Your proposal isn't even written yet, but it's built on lies and hyperbole.

[Lenlyvit]

that hasn't seen any military action in absolute ages. Your proposal isn't even written yet, but it's built on lies and hyperbole.

Well, that's a lie. I've seen UCR members, including Langor, in the past three or four TRE occupations. I've also heard from a TRE member that the UCR is strengthening its relations with TRE, an inter-regionally black listed organization for what their leaders did.

[Arkhall]

that hasn't seen any military action in absolute ages. Your proposal isn't even written yet, but it's built on lies and hyperbole.

Well, that's a lie. I've seen UCR members, including Langor, in the past three or four TRE occupations. I've also heard from a TRE member that the UCR is strengthening its relations with TRE, an inter-regionally black listed organization for what their leaders did.

Assisting doesn't count, kerren haurinf. Also, I didn't know about that. /shrug. Still doesn't warrant a liberation. Association doesn't mean conversion. If that were true, I'd have several condemnations on my head for hanging out with FE, KR, NE, and TBH.

Edit: Can't forget The Invaders, Lily, that Britannia one, and a few other ones.

Another EDIT: Also doesn't mean that his proposal won't be built on lies and hyperbole. We both know it will be, Junehlen.

[Indo-Malaysia]

that hasn't seen any military action in absolute ages. Your proposal isn't even written yet, but it's built on lies and hyperbole.

Well, that's a lie. I've seen UCR members, including Langor, in the past three or four TRE occupations. I've also heard from a TRE member that the UCR is strengthening its relations with TRE, an inter-regionally black listed organization for what their leaders did.

As deplorable as working with TRE is, something like that would only be a footnote in a condemn. Despite the fact that TRE should be wiped with cleaning products, to liberate one for association with people is not right.

[Lenlyvit]

Ffs people, if you actually took my post as support then you are wrong. In case you didn't notice, I've been against La Navs proposals. And Krualstiken? Please stop calling me names.

[Arkhall]

Ffs people, if you actually took my post as support then you are wrong. In case you didn't notice, I've been against La Navs proposals. And Krualsticken? Please stop calling me names.

No 'c', please.

I was being formal.

Juneh = "Mister"

Junehlen - Juneh Len - Mister Len

kerren haurinf = foolish/silly friend - Not meant to be mocking, term of endearment.

[Lenlyvit]

Ffs people, if you actually took my post as support then you are wrong. In case you didn't notice, I've been against La Navs proposals. And Krualsticken? Please stop calling me names.

No 'c', please.

I was being formal.

Juneh = "Mister"

Junehlen - Juneh Len - Mister Len

kerren haurinf = foolish/silly friend - Not meant to be mocking, term of endearment.

Oh! Oh jesus, I'm sorry. I don't know foreign languages very well, never could grasp them at all. Please accept my apology, I wasn't trying to come off as rude.

[Arkhall]

No 'c', please.

I was being formal.

Juneh = "Mister"

Junehlen - Juneh Len - Mister Len

kerren haurinf = foolish/silly friend - Not meant to be mocking, term of endearment.

Oh! Oh jesus, I'm sorry. I don't know foreign languages very well, never could grasp them at all. Please accept my apology, I wasn't trying to come off as rude.

No worries!

[Arkhall]

Ffs people, if you actually took my post as support then you are wrong.

Also, I only assumed as such because, in addition to "Hasn't seen military action in ages", you quoted the part about La Nervosa building the proposal on lies and hyperbole, when you claimed that I was lying. I assumed that the lying part applied to the full quote, and not just the first part.

[Langor Empire]

that hasn't seen any military action in absolute ages. Your proposal isn't even written yet, but it's built on lies and hyperbole.

Well, that's a lie. I've seen UCR members, including Langor, in the past three or four TRE occupations. I've also heard from a TRE member that the UCR is strengthening its relations with TRE, an inter-regionally black listed organization for what their leaders did.

The UCR works with whoever offers cooperation, and helps whoever needs our help XD But we rarely do anything by ourselves, the Conventium still considers R/D hollow.

[Arkhall]

Well, that's a lie. I've seen UCR members, including Langor, in the past three or four TRE occupations. I've also heard from a TRE member that the UCR is strengthening its relations with TRE, an inter-regionally black listed organization for what their leaders did.

The UCR works with whoever offers cooperation, and helps whoever needs our help XD But we rarely do anything by ourselves, the Conventium still considers R/D hollow.

Even our military commander thinks our military is a joke, arri.

[Lenlyvit]

Ffs people, if you actually took my post as support then you are wrong.

Also, I only assumed as such because, in addition to "Hasn't seen military action in ages", you quoted the part about La Nervosa building the proposal on lies and hyperbole, when you claimed that I was lying. I assumed that the lying part applied to the full quote, and not just the first part.

Misunderstanding, no worries. Again, sorry if I came off as rude.