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Is a hot dog a sandwich?

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Postby Galloism » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:17 pm

Dytarma wrote:No, the hotdog bun is a singular piece of bread that happens to open up to put the hotdog in the middle.

Is this a sandwich?
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Postby Dogmeat » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:17 pm

If hot dogs are sandwiches, then are stuffed buns sandwiches?

Man, I could go for some Chinese sandwiches.
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Wikipedia is reliable. TL:DR

Postby Loltacos » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:17 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Galloism wrote:I mean, there's a lot of people that refer to "hamburger sandwiches", which is just another term for a burger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger



Wikipedia is not a source.

It is a reliable source. To quote:
"A study in the journal Nature said that in 2005, Wikipedia's scientific articles came close to the level of accuracy in Encyclopædia Britannica and had a similar rate of "serious errors".[4] Encyclopædia Britannica disputed the Nature study,[5] and Nature replied with a formal response and point-by-point rebuttal of Britannica's main objections.[6] Between 2008 and 2012, Wikipedia articles on medical and scientific fields such as pathology,[7] toxicology,[8] oncology,[9] pharmaceuticals,[10][11] and psychiatry[12] were compared to professional and peer-reviewed sources and it was found that Wikipedia's depth and coverage were of a high standard. Concerns regarding readability were raised in a study published by the American Society of Clinical Oncology[13] and a study published in Psychological Medicine (2012),[12] while a study published in the European Journal of Gastroenterology and Hepatology raised concerns about reliability.[14]"
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TL:DR Wikipedia is reliable.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:18 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Galloism wrote:I mean, there's a lot of people that refer to "hamburger sandwiches", which is just another term for a burger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger



Wikipedia is not a source.

Ironically, what is or is not a sandwich gets asked often enough that there are whole articles about it:

Can Burgers and Hot Dogs Be Considered Sandwiches?

Is anything a sandwich when it’s on bread?
In life, sometimes we encounter questions whose answers shake us to our very core and make us question everything we thought we knew on an existential level. Whether burgers and hot dogs can be considered sandwiches is not one of those questions. But it’s still worth asking.

The answer comes down to another profound question: What, exactly, is a sandwich? Merriam-Webster defines it as “two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between.” Simple enough. Essentially, anything can be a sandwich so long as it’s between two slices of bread or inside a roll or bun. So yes, unequivocally, hot dogs and hamburgers are very much sandwiches.

But it’s not so simple. When we think of sandwiches, we think of peanut butter and jelly, or a turkey club, or an Italian sub, not a bacon cheeseburger. Just like when we think of fruit, we think of apples and bananas, not tomatoes (which are in fact fruits). Burgers and hot dogs exist in their own section of the menu, separate from the “Sandwiches.” For all intents and purposes, they are completely different food items from sandwiches. But in terms of classifications, these cookout staples are indeed sandwiches, whether you think of them that way or not.


https://www.thedailymeal.com/eat/can-bu ... sandwiches
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Postby Bombadil » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:20 pm

The bigger debate is whether sandwiches should ever be chilled or not.. some, especially the French, would say that chilling a sandwich is a travesty.

Of course safety technocrats happily blanket ban good sandwiches cos some kid somewhere got salmonella or something but to chill a sandwich destroys a sandwich.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:21 pm

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid= ... 1789&hl=en

I'm just saying... if you are going to eat them buy quality. You really don't want to know what you are eating otherwise.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:22 pm

Bombadil wrote:The bigger debate is whether sandwiches should ever be chilled or not.. some, especially the French, would say that chilling a sandwich is a travesty.

Of course safety technocrats happily blanket ban good sandwiches cos some kid somewhere got salmonella or something but to chill a sandwich destroys a sandwich.

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Postby Bombadil » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:27 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:The bigger debate is whether sandwiches should ever be chilled or not.. some, especially the French, would say that chilling a sandwich is a travesty.

Of course safety technocrats happily blanket ban good sandwiches cos some kid somewhere got salmonella or something but to chill a sandwich destroys a sandwich.

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Ice cream filled biscuit with a brand name.

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Loltacos wrote:It is a reliable source. To quote:
*snips*


That is far too referenced a post for me to not blithely ignore and move on..
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Postby Dogmeat » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:27 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:The bigger debate is whether sandwiches should ever be chilled or not.. some, especially the French, would say that chilling a sandwich is a travesty.

Of course safety technocrats happily blanket ban good sandwiches cos some kid somewhere got salmonella or something but to chill a sandwich destroys a sandwich.

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You could make the argument that an ice-cream sandwich is a "sandwich" only as an analogy. Like how having sex between two other people is a "sandwich."
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Postby UniversalCommons » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:30 pm

Galloism wrote:Is this a sandwich? I think that's the real question.

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No that looks like a bun, nut a sandwich, the hotdog looks like it was originally baked inside the bun. You can buy this kind of hot dog bun at chinese dumpling shops. It definitely is a bun, not a sandwich.

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You get a poll, and you get a poll

Postby Loltacos » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:30 pm

Bombadil wrote:The bigger debate is whether sandwiches should ever be chilled or not.. some, especially the French, would say that chilling a sandwich is a travesty.

Of course safety technocrats happily blanket ban good sandwiches cos some kid somewhere got salmonella or something but to chill a sandwich destroys a sandwich.

Made a poll based off that.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:30 pm

Cekoviu wrote:A bun is one piece of bread; it's just bent. Thus, a hot dog is not a sandwich.

No it isn't. It's two slices of bread that are connected at the edge. This comment really does anger me on a primal level.
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Postby Arkeyana » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:31 pm

At school, people comment on how smart I am.
Then stuff like this happens.
And I feel completely stupid.
Either way: Hotdogs only have three sides exposed, whereas a sandwich has all sides (with the exception of top and bottom) exposed. So therefore a Hotdog is 3/4 sandwich. So Hotdogs are not sandwiches.

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Postby Geneviev » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:31 pm

Hot dogs are not sandwiches because this is not a sandwich:

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It is a very nice looking animal. Not a sandwich.
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Postby Bombadil » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:32 pm

Loltacos wrote:
Bombadil wrote:The bigger debate is whether sandwiches should ever be chilled or not.. some, especially the French, would say that chilling a sandwich is a travesty.

Of course safety technocrats happily blanket ban good sandwiches cos some kid somewhere got salmonella or something but to chill a sandwich destroys a sandwich.

Made a poll based off that.


Well.. I think one sandwich thread is enough to be honest.. though I am but a simple man.
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Postby Esparmuran » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:32 pm

Calling a hot dog a sandwich is an affront to sandwiches worldwide.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:32 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Sadboiz wrote:Not really discussion related but this thread is the most cursed thing I have ever seen.

Heh. Not by a long shot.

I myself am now post-sandwich. I just put the filling and the bread on a plate and tear them into small pieces. Finger food.

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Postby Cute Puppies » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:32 pm

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Sandwich Arguement Threads

Postby Loltacos » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:33 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Loltacos wrote:Made a poll based off that.


Well.. I think one sandwich thread is enough to be honest.. though I am but a simple man.

NOPE.

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Postby Bombadil » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:33 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:A bun is one piece of bread; it's just bent. Thus, a hot dog is not a sandwich.

No it isn't. It's two slices of bread that are connected at the edge. This comment really does anger me on a primal level.


It's a loaf partially sliced not two slices connected.. neo-slice theory holds no truck with me young whippersnapper.
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Postby Dytarma » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:34 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:A bun is one piece of bread; it's just bent. Thus, a hot dog is not a sandwich.

No it isn't. It's two slices of bread that are connected at the edge. This comment really does anger me on a primal level.

Thus making it one slice of bread, there for not a sandwich.
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Postby The South Falls » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:35 pm

Since the bun is one piece of bread, that disqualifies the hot dog from being a sandwich.
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Dogs, Litreal and Figurative.

Postby Loltacos » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:36 pm

Geneviev wrote:Hot dogs are not sandwiches because this is not a sandwich:

(Image)

It is a very nice looking animal. Not a sandwich.

Right, because I am talking about hot dogs, and this is a costumed dog
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Postby Galloism » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:36 pm

Dytarma wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:No it isn't. It's two slices of bread that are connected at the edge. This comment really does anger me on a primal level.

Thus making it one slice of bread, there for not a sandwich.

Is this a sandwich?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:38 pm

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