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Am I Right?

Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
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Postby Kernen » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:32 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Only if you didn't blast enough.

If your anger is related to not spewing enough there's cheaper and more social ways.


Being social isn't really my goal when I'm blasting paper targets.

Tobleste wrote:
Valgora wrote:
How did he do more?
Genocide is basically just a form of taking away rights from an entire ethnic group/race.


So if you had to choose between Americans being entirely banned from owning guns and being mass murdered, you'd see it as a 50/50 decision?

That is not the situation, and it's entirely unrealistic. Hyperbole is bad.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:33 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Only if you didn't blast enough.

If your anger is related to not spewing enough there's cheaper and more social ways.


''social''
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Valgora » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:33 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Valgora wrote:
How did he do more?

Started a world war for one.
Genocide is basically just a form of taking away rights from an entire ethnic group/race.

Noooooooooo. It's worse.


I don't think starting a world war is really relevant to this conversation.

Genocide is the killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group/race.
That is a form of taking away rights.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:33 pm

Kernen wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:If your anger is related to not spewing enough there's cheaper and more social ways.


Being social isn't really my goal when I'm blasting paper targets.

Gun obsessed, anti-social. Doesn't set off any flags.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:34 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:If your anger is related to not spewing enough there's cheaper and more social ways.


''social''

If your gun calls you in the morning then more power to you.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
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Postby Kernen » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:34 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Kernen wrote:
Being social isn't really my goal when I'm blasting paper targets.

Gun obsessed, anti-social. Doesn't set off any flags.

> implying not wanting to be social at a specific point is the same as never wanting to be social.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:34 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Kernen wrote:
Being social isn't really my goal when I'm blasting paper targets.

Gun obsessed, anti-social. Doesn't set off any flags.


Only to the ignorant.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:35 pm

As stated before it will be around 8:30-9:00pm cst when i will get the next thread up and running.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:36 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:As stated before it will be around 8:30-9:00pm cst when i will get the next thread up and running.

Or just post in Gun Talk, because that's all this has become.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Sovaal » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:36 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Valgora wrote:
How did he do more?

Started a world war for one.
Genocide is basically just a form of taking away rights from an entire ethnic group/race.

Noooooooooo. It's worse.

Yah. Deprivation is slavery essentially. Genocide is ripping them, and life, away.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:37 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Kernen wrote:
Being social isn't really my goal when I'm blasting paper targets.

Gun obsessed, anti-social. Doesn't set off any flags.

People need alone time too. Can’t be social butterflies all the time.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell
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Postby Valgora » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:37 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:As stated before it will be around 8:30-9:00pm cst when i will get the next thread up and running.

Or just post in Gun Talk, because that's all this has become.


No.
This thread is about debating gun control (and why gun control is bad) while sometimes going off topic and sometimes talking about guns in general.
The Gun Talk thread is about talking about guns and sometimes going off topic.
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Postby Kernen » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:38 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Gun obsessed, anti-social. Doesn't set off any flags.

People need alone time too. Can’t be social butterflies all the time.

He won't respond. It doesn't fit his narrative.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:39 pm

Kernen wrote:
Sovaal wrote:People need alone time too. Can’t be social butterflies all the time.

He won't respond. It doesn't fit his narrative.

I love how people love to psychoanalyze me every time I post.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:40 pm

Valgora wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Or just post in Gun Talk, because that's all this has become.


No.
This thread is about debating gun control (and why gun control is bad) while sometimes going off topic and sometimes talking about guns in general.
The Gun Talk thread is about talking about guns and sometimes going off topic.

So The People's Front of Judea versus the Judean People's Front.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:40 pm

Valgora wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Started a world war for one.

Noooooooooo. It's worse.


I don't think starting a world war is really relevant to this conversation.

If genocide is relevant then world war is relevant.
Valgora wrote:Genocide is the killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group/race.
That is a form of taking away rights.

I didn't say it's worse because it's not taking away rights. I said it's worse because the argument is ignoring the sheer gravity of genocide compared to gun control.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:40 pm

Kernen wrote:
Sovaal wrote:People need alone time too. Can’t be social butterflies all the time.

He won't respond. It doesn't fit his narrative.

I wouldn’t expect anything less tbh.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell
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Postby Kernen » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:40 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Kernen wrote:He won't respond. It doesn't fit his narrative.

I love how people love to psychoanalyze me every time I post.
Petrasylvania wrote:
Kernen wrote:
Being social isn't really my goal when I'm blasting paper targets.

Gun obsessed, anti-social. Doesn't set off any flags.

You're one to talk.
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Postby Valgora » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:41 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Valgora wrote:
No.
This thread is about debating gun control (and why gun control is bad) while sometimes going off topic and sometimes talking about guns in general.
The Gun Talk thread is about talking about guns and sometimes going off topic.

So The People's Front of Judea versus the Judean People's Front.


Yes

Plus, do you think that gun grabbers will go to the Gun Talk thread to debate?
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Postby Telconi » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:41 pm

Tobleste wrote:
Valgora wrote:
How did he do more?
Genocide is basically just a form of taking away rights from an entire ethnic group/race.


So if you had to choose between Americans being entirely banned from owning guns and being mass murdered, you'd see it as a 50/50 decision?


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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:41 pm

Kernen wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:I love how people love to psychoanalyze me every time I post.
Petrasylvania wrote:Gun obsessed, anti-social. Doesn't set off any flags.

You're one to talk.

Yes, because it happens a lot of times. ;)
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Sovaal » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:41 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Kernen wrote:He won't respond. It doesn't fit his narrative.

I love how people love to psychoanalyze me every time I post.

I mean that’s why you were doing...
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell
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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:41 pm

Kernen wrote:
Sovaal wrote:People need alone time too. Can’t be social butterflies all the time.

He won't respond. It doesn't fit his narrative.


The kind of shit that Pet said is why I dislike city folks and other people in general. Folks ought to learn to leave other folks alone....
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:41 pm

Kernen wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:I love how people love to psychoanalyze me every time I post.
Petrasylvania wrote:Gun obsessed, anti-social. Doesn't set off any flags.

You're one to talk.


I bet you own a Casio watch too.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:42 pm

Valgora wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:So The People's Front of Judea versus the Judean People's Front.


Yes

Plus, do you think that gun grabbers will go to the Gun Talk thread to debate?

If they started talking about regulating guns in the Gun Talk thread you'd sure find it on topic.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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