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Postby Roosevetania » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:34 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
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I am just saying that you could've effectively fired an ignore cannon by saying that the toy bird missed, and it was just one of the many throwaway gags that everyone makes when entering the chamber in virtually every iteration of the RP.

At the end of the day we're just playing a silly game on the internet, so let's just take a few seconds to relax and spread some love. :p


I have no problem whatsoever with you playing out the consequences of your character throwing a bomb mockup at a politician. Those consequences are jail,.trial, conviction, and expulsion from the Senate. Time for you to make a new character.

Lol that's not how it works. Just not.
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:39 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:
I have no problem whatsoever with you playing out the consequences of your character throwing a bomb mockup at a politician. Those consequences are jail,.trial, conviction, and expulsion from the Senate. Time for you to make a new character.

Please show us the precedent behind this. As in actual Senate post URLs.


The Rules of the House or Representives, section 10, disciplinary procedures, in role play. We all know what role play is, right? Malgrave's character commited a crime. Expulsion from office in RP has rules set up. Malgrave is free to make a new character. The current character is fucked
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Postby Roosevetania » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:43 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Please show us the precedent behind this. As in actual Senate post URLs.


The Rules of the House or Representives, section 10, disciplinary procedures, in role play. We all know what role play is, right? Malgrave's character commited a crime. Expulsion from office in RP has rules set up. Malgrave is free to make a new character. The current character is fucked

That doesn't give you or your security people the right to remove her and assault her. You can't arrest her. You can't beat her. You can't force Gravy to make a new character.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:44 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Please show us the precedent behind this. As in actual Senate post URLs.


The Rules of the House or Representives, section 10, disciplinary procedures, in role play. We all know what role play is, right? Malgrave's character commited a crime. Expulsion from office in RP has rules set up. Malgrave is free to make a new character. The current character is fucked

"In the most dire circumstances where a member has been convicted of a criminal offense and refuses to resign, or other extraordinary circumstances deemed as eligible for expulsion by the Parliamentarian, senators may motion for the expulsion of said member, requiring ten (10) seconds. A 2/3rds majority must be acquired in a 24 hour vote for a Senator to be expelled"

Show me the motion and the actual arrest warrant issued by the Police Commissioner, as is senate precedent.
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Postby West Leas Oros » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:46 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Malgrave wrote:
I am just saying that you could've effectively fired an ignore cannon by saying that the toy bird missed, and it was just one of the many throwaway gags that everyone makes when entering the chamber in virtually every iteration of the RP.

At the end of the day we're just playing a silly game on the internet, so let's just take a few seconds to relax and spread some love. :p


I have no problem whatsoever with you playing out the consequences of your character throwing a bomb mockup at a politician. Those consequences are jail,.trial, conviction, and expulsion from the Senate. Time for you to make a new character.
idea. If NB wants RP to have realism, then the same should apply to his character. You want these rules, you play by those rules.
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Postby Roosevetania » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:47 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:
I have no problem whatsoever with you playing out the consequences of your character throwing a bomb mockup at a politician. Those consequences are jail,.trial, conviction, and expulsion from the Senate. Time for you to make a new character.
idea. If NB wants RP to have realism, then the same should apply to his character. You want these rules, you play by those rules.

Which would make his character dead.
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:53 pm

Roosevetania wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:
I have no problem whatsoever with you playing out the consequences of your character throwing a bomb mockup at a politician. Those consequences are jail,.trial, conviction, and expulsion from the Senate. Time for you to make a new character.

Lol that's not how it works. Just not.


Why is there a bill in the Coffee Shop on decorum rules in the HoR? Those rules contain procedures to remove a Representative, for wrongdoings such as Malgrave's character committed in plainsight of the HoR. Ermagerd another RP opportunity. Awesome.

But no, you'd rather bully new players. I asked the admins to stop y'all. I asked y'all to stop yourselves. Enjoy the bloody nose.
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Postby West Leas Oros » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:55 pm

Roosevetania wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote: idea. If NB wants RP to have realism, then the same should apply to his character. You want these rules, you play by those rules.

Which would make his character dead.

Well he wanted these rules. He just didn't want them to apply to himself.
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
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Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

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Postby Nulla Bellum » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:57 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:
The Rules of the House or Representives, section 10, disciplinary procedures, in role play. We all know what role play is, right? Malgrave's character commited a crime. Expulsion from office in RP has rules set up. Malgrave is free to make a new character. The current character is fucked

"In the most dire circumstances where a member has been convicted of a criminal offense and refuses to resign, or other extraordinary circumstances deemed as eligible for expulsion by the Parliamentarian, senators may motion for the expulsion of said member, requiring ten (10) seconds. A 2/3rds majority must be acquired in a 24 hour vote for a Senator to be expelled"

Show me the motion and the actual arrest warrant issued by the Police Commissioner, as is senate precedent.


If you all will stop pissing yourselves, we can RP to that point.
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Postby Roosevetania » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:57 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:Which would make his character dead.

Well he wanted these rules. He just didn't want them to apply to himself.

#DoubleStandards
Nulla Bellum wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:Lol that's not how it works. Just not.


Why is there a bill in the Coffee Shop on decorum rules in the HoR? Those rules contain procedures to remove a Representative, for wrongdoings such as Malgrave's character committed in plainsight of the HoR. Ermagerd another RP opportunity. Awesome.

But no, you'd rather bully new players. I asked the admins to stop y'all. I asked y'all to stop yourselves. Enjoy the bloody nose.

It doesn't matter if it was against the Senate rules. It was a joke. Stuff like that happens all the time. No one takes it seriously but you. Besides, if it were serious and there was a rules resolution passed, you wouldn't have the power to remove Malgrave.
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Postby Malgrave » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:59 pm

Alexandra is just enjoying a glass of rather expensive wine in the Olive Branch.
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:08 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:Which would make his character dead.

Well he wanted these rules. He just didn't want them to apply to himself.


Says the people who have wasted everyone's time trying to run birds for public office. i was bold enough to take on the RP challenge of surviving a terror attack. You diaper pissers are wailing about someone getting arrested for a crime.

Give me a break.
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:15 pm

Malgrave wrote:Alexandra is just enjoying a glass of rather expensive wine in the Olive Branch.


Interesting nickname for jail.
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Postby Malgrave » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:18 pm



I'll just bump this link because the Senate bar is always a nice place to RP some fun.
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:21 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:
I have no problem whatsoever with you playing out the consequences of your character throwing a bomb mockup at a politician. Those consequences are jail,.trial, conviction, and expulsion from the Senate. Time for you to make a new character.
idea. If NB wants RP to have realism, then the same should apply to his character. You want these rules, you play by those rules.


My characters leg was blown off in an explosion. You want to pretend cops don't arrest criminals.

You should go play Angry Birds.
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:23 pm

Malgrave wrote:


I'll just bump this link because the Senate bar is always a nice place to RP some fun.


Indeed. We'll pop by the jail and tell your character about it.
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Postby The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:42 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Well he wanted these rules. He just didn't want them to apply to himself.


Says the people who have wasted everyone's time trying to run birds for public office. i was bold enough to take on the RP challenge of surviving a terror attack. You diaper pissers are wailing about someone getting arrested for a crime.

Give me a break.

Please try to be civil. If you resort to crude insults again when solving this, things may escalate towards a senate admin warning.

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Postby Nulla Bellum » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:32 pm

The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:
Says the people who have wasted everyone's time trying to run birds for public office. i was bold enough to take on the RP challenge of surviving a terror attack. You diaper pissers are wailing about someone getting arrested for a crime.

Give me a break.

Please try to be civil. If you resort to crude insults again when solving this, things may escalate towards a senate admin warning.


I don't feel any need to discuss ooc reality and game reality with other players. They know they are wrong more than I can tell them. It is time for those admin warnings to start flowing. These people have driven interest in this game from above 50 people back down to what, 20 people? I have asked for the pettiness to stop, ic and ooc, and it keeps increasing. Now people want to god-mod away real and realistic consequences of their characters actions. I'm not Jesus, Gandhi, or even Gandhi Christ. If anyone in the real world threw anything at a politician in a legislature anywhere, especially something made to look like a bomb, that person would be bounced the fuck out of that legislature, in the arms of law enforcement. Don't want that to happen to your character? Don't commit the crime. Now we get to see what happens to criminals in a country that doesn't protect human rights, because fighting over pizza slices is oh-so-impotant to roleplaying a government simulation.

I have taken my complaints to the head admin (again). I'm sure you'll hear about it.
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Postby Van Hool Islands » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:33 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism wrote:Please try to be civil. If you resort to crude insults again when solving this, things may escalate towards a senate admin warning.


I don't feel any need to discuss ooc reality and game reality with other players. They know they are wrong more than I can tell them. It is time for those admin warnings to start flowing. These people have driven interest in this game from above 50 people back down to what, 20 people? I have asked for the pettiness to stop, ic and ooc, and it keeps increasing. Now people want to god-mod away real and realistic consequences of their characters actions. I'm not Jesus, Gandhi, or even Gandhi Christ. If anyone in the real world threw anything at a politician in a legislature anywhere, especially something made to look like a bomb, that person would be bounced the fuck out of that legislature, in the arms of law enforcement. Don't want that to happen to your character? Don't commit the crime. Now we get to see what happens to criminals in a country that doesn't protect human rights, because fighting over pizza slices is oh-so-impotant to roleplaying a government simulation.

I have taken my complaints to the head admin (again). I'm sure you'll hear about it.

How many times do you have to be told that you aren't in charge of the police force?
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:38 pm

Van Hool Islands wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:
I don't feel any need to discuss ooc reality and game reality with other players. They know they are wrong more than I can tell them. It is time for those admin warnings to start flowing. These people have driven interest in this game from above 50 people back down to what, 20 people? I have asked for the pettiness to stop, ic and ooc, and it keeps increasing. Now people want to god-mod away real and realistic consequences of their characters actions. I'm not Jesus, Gandhi, or even Gandhi Christ. If anyone in the real world threw anything at a politician in a legislature anywhere, especially something made to look like a bomb, that person would be bounced the fuck out of that legislature, in the arms of law enforcement. Don't want that to happen to your character? Don't commit the crime. Now we get to see what happens to criminals in a country that doesn't protect human rights, because fighting over pizza slices is oh-so-impotant to roleplaying a government simulation.

I have taken my complaints to the head admin (again). I'm sure you'll hear about it.

How many times do you have to be told that you aren't in charge of the police force?
Jesus.


How many times do you need to be reminded that you're not an admin?

The admins need to decide, and quickly, if they are running a government simulation RPG, or babysitting twits. I'd like to be part of a government simulation RPG. I've heard there's one around here.
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Postby Ainin » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:06 am

Office of the President. All proclamations and press releases will be posted there. If you have any questions for the president, that's also the place to go.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:14 am

I’m considering coming back to The Senate, but could someone give a a run down of the current makeup of the senate and government?

Also why the hell are there two chambers?
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Postby Martune » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:20 am

I knew someone was gonna have to say something on my motion thing. Could’ve let it die but ok
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Postby Collatis » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:11 am

Thermodolia wrote:I’m considering coming back to The Senate, but could someone give a a run down of the current makeup of the senate and government?

Also why the hell are there two chambers?

Here’s the most recent parliamentary diagram of the senate. The Free Democratic Party, Democratic Party, and Alliance for Change are currently in the process of forming a Government.

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Postby Martune » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:55 am

Wait. Can we do votes of no confidence. I think I remember seeing it but I don’t remember and can’t find the GEA
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