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Nerve Agent Used in Attempted Murder of Russian Spy

Postby The New California Republic » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:58 am

Police in the UK have said that a nerve agent was used in an attempted murder of a former Russian spy, Sergei Skripal. The attempted murder happened in a very public place, which could have had serious consequences. Skripal and his daughter remain in serious condition in hospital. One police officer was also hospitalized. The finger of suspicion is pointed at Russia at the moment, but there is nothing concrete yet.

I firmly believe that Russia was responsible, mainly because they have motive for it, there is nobody else that could be reasonably suspected of having motive for wanting him dead. Skripal betrayed a bunch of Russian agents in Europe, and then he was exchanged in a prisoner swap after the Russians arrested him.

What say you, NationStates? Were the Russians involved? Why has assassination by nerve agent become the latest fashion trend among assassins? What will be the consequences for UK-Russian relations?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43323847
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:07 am

I was suspecting Russia all along, given they murdered Litvinenko. Also, nerve agents have been used for assassinations before (VX was used to kill Kim Jong-nam)

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:09 am

What are the repercussions for state sponsored bioterrorism?

Maybe Russia should go back to polonium tipped umbrellas....
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Postby Neanderthaland » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:12 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:I was suspecting Russia all along, given they murdered Litvinenko.

Yeah, I don't think anyone thinks that Peru did this. Or that someone on their own initiative developed and deployed nerve agents, and randomly chose a former Russian spy as a target.

This is the Russians. Being Russians.
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Dooom35796821595 wrote:What are the repercussions for state sponsored bioterrorism?

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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:16 am

The man betrayed his country and paid the price. Good riddance.

While I'd prefer that he would be sentenced to death or life in prison by a fair and impartial trial, you can't expect any form of due process from a country as corrupt as Russia. It's Russia, after all . If the same thing had happened to Bradley Manning or Berghdal (though Berghdal didn't betray his country), I wouldn't shed a tear, but again, a fair trial is always the best way to deal with traitors, without exception.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:16 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:What are the repercussions for state sponsored bioterrorism?

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We should try diplomacy first, before we do anything so unforgivable.
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Postby Annihitor the Incred » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:17 am

The Russian government is usually not this sloppy, so the result might be intentional. They may have chosen to make a public example, like with journalists in the past. A warning to potential leaks not to leak.

A rather common tactic.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:20 am

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:The man betrayed his country and paid the price. Good riddance.

He isn't dead. Also, what about his daughter? She is in hospital suffering from the effects of the nerve agent...
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:22 am

The New California Republic wrote:
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:The man betrayed his country and paid the price. Good riddance.

He isn't dead. Also, what about his daughter? She is in hospital suffering from the effects of the nerve agent...

She should have known better than to associate with a traitor! /s

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:24 am

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:The man betrayed his country and paid the price. Good riddance.

While I'd prefer that he would be sentenced to death or life in prison by a fair and impartial trial, you can't expect any form of due process from a country as corrupt as Russia. It's Russia, after all . If the same thing had happened to Bradley Manning or Berghdal (though Berghdal didn't betray his country), I wouldn't shed a tear, but again, a fair trial is always the best way to deal with traitors, without exception.


So what about all the bystanders who've potentially been exposed?
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:27 am

Nerve agents have been used for assassinations before. Remember Kim Jong-nam?

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:35 am

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:The man betrayed his country and paid the price. Good riddance.

While I'd prefer that he would be sentenced to death or life in prison by a fair and impartial trial, you can't expect any form of due process from a country as corrupt as Russia. It's Russia, after all . If the same thing had happened to Bradley Manning or Berghdal (though Berghdal didn't betray his country), I wouldn't shed a tear, but again, a fair trial is always the best way to deal with traitors, without exception.

Skripal's still alive. And Russia did convict him. in 2006 they sentenced him to 13 years in prison. They released him in 2010 as part of a spy swap with the US, after which he moved to the UK.

And his daughter and that paramedic didn't do anything.
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TURTLESHROOM II wrote:The man betrayed his country and paid the price. Good riddance.

While I'd prefer that he would be sentenced to death or life in prison by a fair and impartial trial, you can't expect any form of due process from a country as corrupt as Russia. It's Russia, after all . If the same thing had happened to Bradley Manning or Berghdal (though Berghdal didn't betray his country), I wouldn't shed a tear, but again, a fair trial is always the best way to deal with traitors, without exception.

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Sovaal wrote:
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:The man betrayed his country and paid the price. Good riddance.

While I'd prefer that he would be sentenced to death or life in prison by a fair and impartial trial, you can't expect any form of due process from a country as corrupt as Russia. It's Russia, after all . If the same thing had happened to Bradley Manning or Berghdal (though Berghdal didn't betray his country), I wouldn't shed a tear, but again, a fair trial is always the best way to deal with traitors, without exception.

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Annihitor the Incred wrote:
Sovaal wrote:DIdnt know the Founders deserved to be executed.

"Insurrectionists are revolutionaries who fail."

Still traitors.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:06 pm

Ifreann wrote:
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:The man betrayed his country and paid the price. Good riddance.

While I'd prefer that he would be sentenced to death or life in prison by a fair and impartial trial, you can't expect any form of due process from a country as corrupt as Russia. It's Russia, after all . If the same thing had happened to Bradley Manning or Berghdal (though Berghdal didn't betray his country), I wouldn't shed a tear, but again, a fair trial is always the best way to deal with traitors, without exception.

Skripal's still alive. And Russia did convict him. in 2006 they sentenced him to 13 years in prison. They released him in 2010 as part of a spy swap with the US, after which he moved to the UK.

And his daughter and that paramedic didn't do anything.


It's a police man that's still in hospital, not a paramedic.

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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:09 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Skripal's still alive. And Russia did convict him. in 2006 they sentenced him to 13 years in prison. They released him in 2010 as part of a spy swap with the US, after which he moved to the UK.

And his daughter and that paramedic didn't do anything.


It's a police man that's still in hospital, not a paramedic.

He is now in a serious condition in hospital, according to reports.
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:10 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
It's a police man that's still in hospital, not a paramedic.

He is now in a serious condition in hospital, according to reports.

Is the daughter okay?
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New Emeline wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:He is now in a serious condition in hospital, according to reports.

Is the daughter all right?


No, she's in critical condition.

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Fartsniffage wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Is the daughter all right?


No, she's in critical condition.

Hope she recovers... Along with anyone else injured.
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