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If you could alter or overturn one of these treaties, which would it be?

1 - Treaty of Paris (1783)
26
5%
2 - Pact of Umar
9
2%
3 - Treaty of Versailles
365
65%
4 - The Peace of Westphalia
24
4%
5 - The Congress of Vienna (1814)
33
6%
6 - Treaty of Berlin (1868)
12
2%
7 - Treaty of Trianon
19
3%
8 - Treaty of San Francisco
13
2%
9 - Japan–Korea Treaty (1905)
37
7%
10 - Other (Please give your take in the comment section, only so many options can be added)
26
5%
 
Total votes : 564

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Postby Germanic Templars » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:19 pm

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Painisia wrote:A disastrous populist ideology which plunged Argentina into the dark abyss

Argentina was never all that great to begin with.


Can never be a great country, especially if you have a smiley face on your flag.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:22 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Argentina was never all that great to begin with.


Can never be a great country, especially if you have a smiley face on your flag.

Excuse me?
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:35 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
Can never be a great country, especially if you have a smiley face on your flag.

Excuse me?


Larping is fun.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:34 pm

Wedonland wrote:Seriously, I wonder why atheism tends to be more heard about and popular than deism or even misotheism. I consider myself "between" those two. If God exists and he gave us a theoretical "free will", why do we have to worship or respect him? Free will can't practically exist, and the Kingdom of Heaven he created sounds just communist and anti-individualist as Orwell's 1984 or New World Order.

And then, there is a guy I know who is a real douche, but no way that I ever doubted or questioned that he really exists.

Because misotheism is scary without atheism, and deism is weak tea theism.
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Postby Aillyria » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:38 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Wedonland wrote:Seriously, I wonder why atheism tends to be more heard about and popular than deism or even misotheism. I consider myself "between" those two. If God exists and he gave us a theoretical "free will", why do we have to worship or respect him? Free will can't practically exist, and the Kingdom of Heaven he created sounds just communist and anti-individualist as Orwell's 1984 or New World Order.

And then, there is a guy I know who is a real douche, but no way that I ever doubted or questioned that he really exists.

Because misotheism is scary without atheism, and deism is weak tea theism.

In other words, moderates are whack muh nig. Go balls deep, or don't go at all.
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Postby Rostavykhan » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:27 pm

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Bienenhalde wrote:From what I have heard about Warhammer 40K, the Tau at least sound better than the humans.

Only if you're a disgusting race-traitorous weeb who's into getting castrated and brainwashed.
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I'd put the Imperium and Tau on similar level of "like" for me. Imperium is a little less cool IMO.

Except the Kriegers. Death Korps 4 lyfe.

Tau have dank aesthetic too. Farsight is cool.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:27 pm

Can the next thread have a poll on the Civil War or Lincoln?
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:34 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Can the next thread have a poll on the Civil War or Lincoln?

That's a little Americentric.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:38 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Can the next thread have a poll on the Civil War or Lincoln?

That's a little Americentric.


I'd like one on the nature of Scotland myself tbh

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:41 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Can the next thread have a poll on the Civil War or Lincoln?

That's a little Americentric.

Oh, sorry.

Let's do a poll on the merits of the British Empire.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:01 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:That's a little Americentric.

Oh, sorry.

Let's do a poll on the merits of the British Empire.

Too Anglocentric.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:10 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Oh, sorry.

Let's do a poll on the merits of the British Empire.

Too Anglocentric.

We'll do it in French.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:12 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Too Anglocentric.

We'll do it in French.


Too pretentious
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:16 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Too Anglocentric.

We'll do it in French.

Too Francocentric.
ywn be as good as this video
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Postby Questers » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:28 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Can the next thread have a poll on the Civil War or Lincoln?

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Postby Herskerstad » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:02 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Can the next thread have a poll on the Civil War or Lincoln?


I am entirely open to suggestions.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:14 pm

Questers wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Can the next thread have a poll on the Civil War or Lincoln?

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Someone needs to read Orestes Browson. :^)
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:15 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Can the next thread have a poll on the Civil War or Lincoln?


I am entirely open to suggestions.

Just do it in which side should have won, with shades of qualifications
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:17 pm

These other historical polls are just not politically relevant enough, I feel. They feel too much like pure history debates, and not enough like political debates
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Postby Herskerstad » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:19 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
I am entirely open to suggestions.

Just do it in which side should have won, with shades of qualifications


I'd imagine a northen blowout.

Then again, I was dumb enough to include the Versailles option on this one.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:23 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Just do it in which side should have won, with shades of qualifications


I'd imagine a northen blowout.

Then again, I was dumb enough to include the Versailles option on this one.

Do the British Empire, do Lincoln's merits, do something that's politically controversial. Something that isn't innocuous to today. Maybe a poll on immigration policy.
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Postby Herskerstad » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:27 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
I'd imagine a northen blowout.

Then again, I was dumb enough to include the Versailles option on this one.

Do the British Empire, do Lincoln's merits, do something that's politically controversial. Something that isn't innocuous to today. Maybe a poll on immigration policy.


The latter is a very good idea.
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Postby Mujahidah » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:28 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Do the British Empire, do Lincoln's merits, do something that's politically controversial. Something that isn't innocuous to today. Maybe a poll on immigration policy.


The latter is a very good idea.


It'd be interesting, at least...
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Postby Hakons » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:34 pm

Wedonland wrote:Seriously, I wonder why atheism tends to be more heard about and popular than deism or even misotheism. I consider myself "between" those two. If God exists and he gave us a theoretical "free will", why do we have to worship or respect him? Free will can't practically exist, and the Kingdom of Heaven he created sounds just communist and anti-individualist as Orwell's 1984 or New World Order.

And then, there is a guy I know who is a real douche, but no way that I ever doubted or questioned that he really exists.


We have the free will to reject Him, as you evidently do. Free will has never meant freedom from consequences. If you choose to reject God, you will be separated from Him. If you accept God, you will return to Him. I have no idea why you think the Kingdom of Heaven is communist or Orwellian. We know very little about Heaven, and it is likely it is beyond our present comprehension.
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Postby Mujahidah » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:37 pm

Hakons wrote:
Wedonland wrote:Seriously, I wonder why atheism tends to be more heard about and popular than deism or even misotheism. I consider myself "between" those two. If God exists and he gave us a theoretical "free will", why do we have to worship or respect him? Free will can't practically exist, and the Kingdom of Heaven he created sounds just communist and anti-individualist as Orwell's 1984 or New World Order.

And then, there is a guy I know who is a real douche, but no way that I ever doubted or questioned that he really exists.


We have the free will to reject Him, as you evidently do. Free will has never meant freedom from consequences. If you choose to reject God, you will be separated from Him. If you accept God, you will return to Him. I have no idea why you think the Kingdom of Heaven is communist or Orwellian. We know very little about Heaven, and it is likely it is beyond our present comprehension.


By 'reject God' do you mean that they are rejecting Christianity, or rejecting the existence of a deity? Because if you mean the later you are wrong. No matter how wrong I hold both positions - misotheism, in particular, which strikes me as supremely immature at the least - they both require the existence of deity.
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