Medieval Tech OOC thread (Spaces available!)

[Frozopia]

REOPENED:

Spaces are reopenning in this Roleplay! See the current map if you're interested.

The current steps for signing up are:

1) Make a factbook.
2) Get involved in a IC thread
3) Make a Claim on the map, and link the factbook + IC thread.
4) I'll add you to the RP

A few things to bear in mind:

Technology is at 1300AD level, with no gunpowder available.

We are not using insane NS populations. I am thinking nothing bigger than 5-10 million per a nation. Larger nations should have certain disadvantages, although currently I cant think of any ha.

I have a map, shamelessly stolen from google images.



Map v22


Map comparison to Europe:



Mapworking will quickly become hardwork...We'll need one for every tactical situation and more strategical ones for invasions...A cartographer would really help!

Simply Amazing World map by Rahiendaishar (Orthenia):

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3738/worldmap.png

I am told a map similiar to the original continent map is coming, so as to make claims easier etc.

Don't produce a perfect army/nation. Remember weakness's are what make things interesting.

Elite units...Each nation will probably have one type. For me I'm thinking Throwing Axemen. Be imaginative!

Realism: typical NS rules, no million man armies, think about logistics, don't declare war on a whim etc...You get the point

Add me on msn oldirishgeezer@hotmail.com

Anyways who's interested?

Factbooks:

Frozopia: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10176&p=341078&hilit=Frozopia#p341078
Angermanland: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10141&start=0
Terror Incognitia viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10198
Argirium roleplayed by Jimanistan viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10215
Dravkany roleplayed by Drvarska viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10255&start=0
The Romulan republic viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=5&t=10314
Zoogiedom roledplayed by The Zoogie People viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10517
Dercon roleplayed by The New British Shores viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10539&p=356630#p356630
The Amber Kingdom viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10572&p=358312#p358312
Malistance viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10756
Dashret viewtopic.php?f=23&t=12006
Gahrodanth viewtopic.php?f=23&t=11127&p=383364#p383364
Empire of Orthenia roleplayed by Isurioth viewtopic.php?f=23&t=12182 Map Claim off main continent
Bolvald viewtopic.php?f=23&t=12271&p=432006#p432006
Rohan roleplayed by The Rohirrim 1 viewtopic.php?f=23&t=15749
Fiduses and Diuses viewtopic.php?f=23&t=16849
Landista viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17073
Vikland roleplayed by Christstan viewtopic.php?f=23&t=16879
Manitheren viewtopic.php?f=23&t=16878


The Black Company mercenaries viewtopic.php?f=23&t=11997
The Mercenaries of Letzen viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17598

Ongoing rp's:

A Bloody... Peace? viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10399
A Voyage viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10687
The Unknown Awaits viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10690
Piracy on the Star Sea viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10559
The Grand Tournament viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10853
The Lord of the Two Lands viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12094&start=0
Everyone can talk money viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12191
Murtaeus viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=5&t=12813
We've lost it viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13258
University Days viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15323
Where now is the Horse and the Rider? viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15790&p=569623#p569623
The Red Dawn viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16386
A Deserted Isle viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=5&t=16957
The Lone Rider viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17456
Money and Blood can mix viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17627
The King is Dead! viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17641
Trade Winds viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17755&start=0
The God of Heaven has given us all the kingdoms of the Earth viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17854
The Meeting viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17981
Fortress Kerma viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18757&p=691399#p691399

The Lost Prince viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11420
Mission of Peace viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15919

Cloaks and Daggers: The Royal Flush viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12007
Cloaks and Daggers: King's Gambit viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17091
Cloaks and Daggers: Guise of Justice viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17104

Ancient RP's, acting as prequels to the current roleplaying:

The Striking of the Falcon viewtopic.php?f=5&t=20957&p=783819#p783819

Regional Language Groups (Work in progress)

See ancient history map for a language from which yours would be derived from. The main ones seem to be dashreti and Orthenian, although a bit of angerman and other assorted languages are about.

Ancient history map (Work in progress)



Timeline by Dashret (Work in Progress)

Lacking a messiah to date things from, I'm using YA, that's Years Ago.

Things in parenthesis indicate stuff I'm not sure about, unconfirmed interpretations of a nations history, or stuff I just made up which requires approval by the nations involved. The latter will be marked with ATTN: SO AND SO

Approx. 150,000 YA - Osiris cuts off his own testicles and hurls them into the sea to form Earth. Or something like that.

8,000 YA - Start of 'civlization'. First true cities emerge in Dashret and Angermanland. Arrival of Fuxi and Numitor peoples in future Ortheni lands.

6,000 YA - Settlement of island of Ecba by Numitori and the Luiyang peninsula by Fuxi.

5700 YA - First use of heiroglyphic signs and pictographic languages.

5,000 YA - Devlopment of modern writing in several locations.

4,495 YA - Year of start of the Numitori migration to Orithena.

4,457 YA - Last year of Numitori migration when most Eamus are killed when Mt. Ecba erupts.

4,500 YA - Dashret united for the first time under King Scorpion, start of first dynasty.

4,255 YA - First Dashreti Empire declared by the Third Dynasty.

4,251 YA - Historical date of the start of the First Era of Orithena.

4,227 YA - Start of the Orthni Unification.

4,200 YA - The Ortheni Unification is declared finished.

3,810 YA - Battle of Kadesh starts the collapse of the First Empire

3,710 YA - Collapse of the First Empire

3,433 YA - Second Dashreti Empire formed

3,200 YA - Rule of Pharaoh Senusret III, height of the Second Empire.

3,138 YA - Second Dashreti Empire collapses under Pharaoh Sobekneferu.

>3,000 YA - Landista Founded

2,750 YA - All semblance of order in Dashret collapses, this period is know as the "Great Anarchy" across the continient.

2,163 YA - The Seventeeth Dynasty reestablishes order in Dashret under Pharaoh Kamose.

1,867 YA - Declaration of the Great Empire of Dashret by Thutmose III.

1,865 YA - Thutmose III raises the first professional army, employing paid soldiers and standard equipment.

1,527 YA - Consolidation of Dai Tay

1,500 YA - Territorial height of Dashreti Great Empire

1,486 YA - Dashreti Great Empire begins to disentigrate as a result of frequent clashes with Ortheni colonizers, battles with Angermanland, barbarian incursions, and general corruption.

1,400 YA - The Dashreti Cubit, the first standard unit of measurement, is declared official and used to build pyramids.

1,368 YA - High Duke Thomas Hawkwing forms Manitheren from a former Dashreti province.

1,367 YA - Collapse of the Dashreti Great Empire

1,317 YA - Nova Britannia founded after uprising against the Orthenian Empire

1,280 YA - Principality of Bolvald founded as part of Malinstance

905 YA - Formation of the Fourth Dashreti Empire

838 YA - 'New Dogma' announced in Gahrodanth. Persecution of non-Siidim kiiths.

600 YA - Start of Mardocian migration, end of several major Siidim kiith attempts to assault southern lands.

583 YA - Saju-ka in Gahrodanth destroyed by Miirpat Gaalisien-Sa.

561 YA - Collapse of the Fourth Dashreti Empire

555 YA - Founding of Descon

550 YA - Height of the 'Time of Reason' in Gahrodanth.

500 YA - Romulan Republic founded by seafaring refugees

372 YA - Founding of The Amber Kingdom

300 YA - End of Mardocian migration

266 YA - Zoogiedom emerges as a power.

140 YA - Start of conslidation of Ephesian power within the Delian League.

~100 YA - Consolidation and stabilization of the Zoogie Republic as a state

64 YA - Founding of Argirium by Otromon Jimani colonists

~50 YA - Final period of Romulan expansion into Malinstance territory

>50 YA - Bolvald declares independence

10 YA - Pharaoh Menephetre ascends to the throne and, over several years, reunites Upper and Lower Dashret, becoming the first Pharaoh in 340 years to wear both the crowns of Upper and Lower Dashret.

[Fat Cat Capitalist]

Canon or non-canon? Account nations or new fictional nations?

[Campeachy]

Canon or non-canon? Account nations or new fictional nations?

I second these queries.

[Frozopia]

Semantics isn't it? Considering these are all fictional nations etc...My canon changes all the time it's not even canon anymore.

Eitherway...its upto you. Using your own account nation does generally help in avoiding confusion though.

edit unless I'm an idiot and you mean actual history .

[Frozopia]

bump

[Kagetora]

I'm sort of interested in this idea. I'm assuming based on the map that this has no way to affect our canon nations.

I'd be interested in playing as an East Asian nation (cough Japan cough)

[Lizardiar]

Viking Komodo Trainers?

Besides that, I'm interested....What exact time-line?

[Frozopia]

Timeline?

Starting from 1300, time would flow with flexibility between posts, but there would be no actual 'progression' if you know what I mean i.e. there wouldn't be technological advances etc.

Unless the rp went on for a reeeeeeeeeeeealllly long time .

[Frozopia]

bumpty bump

[Allbeama]

Could this involve non-humans maybe? the word medieval caught my attention cuz I play DnD.

[Frozopia]

Sorry humans only.

[Frozopia]

bump

[Jimanistan]

Count me in. I'd like to think of myself as a cartographer, but I'm quite lazy, so... Not sure if I could neccesarily be helpful on that front.

Anyway, as far as "Elite Units" go, I could think of a lot of different things, since I've fleshed out a lot of the character of my nation through its history, and all of the provinces are very distinct, and such... Though were I to choose just one I'd say Otromon Corsairs, or maybe Aethelayan Trackers.

Though, I do have one possible issue... Is that map that you linked to be the playing field? I already have maps of Jimanistan drawn (by my own clumsy hand, as can be seen in my factbook), and wouldn't be able to work it on to that map... In that case, I'd have to have Jimanistan engage in colonialism, or hire out soldiers to a country that is on the map, or something like that...

[United States of PA]

Im interested. I would have to RP as the fictional nation that my nation spawned from, which is Nova Britannianica, but i could definately do this. My mothernation i guess would have a decently equipped and sized military, and a pretty decent fleet, with my "Superunits" of the time being Swordsman with those 2 Handed Swords(name if anyone knows it), Longbowmen, and various other heavy and light Swordsman.

[Altergo]

I'm interested. Go Trebuchets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: Woops, i forgot to mention that i'll have to play as the Great Empire, the faction that Altergo fought to get it's independence, because it had medival tech in 200 BCE, but Altergo was founded during 1345 AD when gunpowder had already been invented.

Note:The Great Empire lived in an Alternate History where the Library of Alexandria wasn't destroyed

[The Zoogie People]

Count me in! pretty sweet lookin' map, by the way. I think this one has the potential to be very intruiging. The more primitive the tech, the better, so I'm glad there's no gunpowder, cannons, etc.

[Kagetora]

@Jimanistan and USPA: I'm pretty sure this doesn't have to be "NS Historically" accurate. You don't have to use your actual nation. For instance, I'd be taking probably one of the northern island areas and call that Kagetora, even though Kagetora already has set boundaries in NS-Canon.

@Frozopia: If I were to play as a Japanese knock-off, could I assume that samurai are the equivalent of knights, and don't count as my unique units? Because if I have to have pretty much all of my people as unique units, I'm not interested.

[The Romulan Republic]

Put me down as interested as well. Note: while I'm familiar with the basics of Medieval technology, I'm not exactly an expert. What level of expertise is this going to require?

As far as canon is concerned, I've got little concern: my canon is ill-defined, and I tend to make it up when as I go.

I think I'll use the same combination I used for an old fantasy RP on the Jolt forums, minus the magic. Ie, Romanesque legions backed by Longbowmen.

[Avenio]

Very interesting, I'll definitely join in.

I'd be playing as an Alexandrian Greek-style empire, probably based upon Ptolemaic Egypt. I haven't quite decided what their special unit will be yet, but they'd probably be hoplites, though if allowed, perhaps a little bit of Greek fire wouldn't be too bad. So many choices...

Also, I'd like to volunteer my services as a mapmaker to the thread, I'll hopefully be able to keep up with the mountain of tasks in the Mapmaking thread and this one, but I'm optimistic.

[Prazinia 2]

I always was interested in a realistic Medieval Tech RP, although it's a pity that I'll have to go with a sort of Hussite kingdom instead of going with Prazinia's predecessor called "The Kingdom of God", which was formed in 1524 AD when gunpowder already was commonplace.

I'd really love to integrate this, somehow, to Prazinia's past story.

Now, is there going to exist any equivalent to the Catholic Church / Holy Roman Empire regarding influence and power? Prazinia will be an early protestant kingdom in this RP, probably Hussite, like I mentioned, and nothing like facing a greater power.

[Frozopia]

Count me in. I'd like to think of myself as a cartographer, but I'm quite lazy, so... Not sure if I could neccesarily be helpful on that front.

Anyway, as far as "Elite Units" go, I could think of a lot of different things, since I've fleshed out a lot of the character of my nation through its history, and all of the provinces are very distinct, and such... Though were I to choose just one I'd say Otromon Corsairs, or maybe Aethelayan Trackers.

Though, I do have one possible issue... Is that map that you linked to be the playing field? I already have maps of Jimanistan drawn (by my own clumsy hand, as can be seen in my factbook), and wouldn't be able to work it on to that map... In that case, I'd have to have Jimanistan engage in colonialism, or hire out soldiers to a country that is on the map, or something like that...

If theres enough demand, and people stick it out, then this map may only represent one continent of a world in which you can base your main country.

Either way one or two of those islands are probably too small for any nations but they could perhaps be a base of operations for your colonising army...mhmmmm interestingness abound.

@Jimanistan and USPA: I'm pretty sure this doesn't have to be "NS Historically" accurate. You don't have to use your actual nation. For instance, I'd be taking probably one of the northern island areas and call that Kagetora, even though Kagetora already has set boundaries in NS-Canon.

@Frozopia: If I were to play as a Japanese knock-off, could I assume that samurai are the equivalent of knights, and don't count as my unique units? Because if I have to have pretty much all of my people as unique units, I'm not interested.

Yeah thats fine so long as the samurai aren't too numerous (for example in a large army force of maybe 20,000? I would probably have about 400 knights acting as heavy cavalry). Not all Medieval japanese people were samurai obviously.

Put me down as interested as well. Note: while I'm familiar with the basics of Medieval technology, I'm not exactly an expert. What level of expertise is this going to require?

As far as canon is concerned, I've got little concern: my canon is ill-defined, and I tend to make it up when as I go.

I think I'll use the same combination I used for an old fantasy RP on the Jolt forums, minus the magic. Ie, Romanesque legions backed by Longbowmen.

Ah not too much. Everyone can help each other out, but a bit of research maybe necessary every now and again.

I always was interested in a realistic Medieval Tech RP, although it's a pity that I'll have to go with a sort of Hussite kingdom instead of going with Prazinia's predecessor called "The Kingdom of God", which was formed in 1524 AD when gunpowder already was commonplace.

I'd really love to integrate this, somehow, to Prazinia's past story.

Now, is there going to exist any equivalent to the Catholic Church / Holy Roman Empire regarding influence and power? Prazinia will be an early protestant kingdom in this RP, probably Hussite, like I mentioned, and nothing like facing a greater power.

There could maybe be a Catholic church, but a Holy roman empire would have to be some player driven equivalent.

Anyways guys if you are interested write up a factbook and make a claim on the map. A factbook, as I'm sure most of you know, should include a brief description of your country including organisation, terrain, weather, culture and armed forces.

Also a lot of people are claiming the ever popular longbowmen...There should never be too many of these guys, there is a crazy amount of training involved in their production (10 years of strength training really, making them irreplaceable) and it really requires a certain culture for them to come about....In many ways they are an elite unit all by themselves (although i will not consider them as such) I may make case-by-case decisions to restrict their numbers or even outright ban them.

[Angermanland]

count me in.

and fear not, for those who are familiar with such things: there shall be no hawks, boom tubes, or acid-grenade-wielding-pseudo-ninja

might want to check out what's going on with the Samurai in 1300 there... they started life as horse archers, after all, and went through several variations before you got to their most knight like. [during the war before japan went isolationist for a while, a lot of them apparently carried guns as their primary weapon when going to war]

my elite guys are probably going to be heavily armored halbardeers.

i suppose i should do up a fact book.

oh, and on the subject of cannon: Angermanland doesn't really Have cannon. though it is refined in every iteration side effect of being present in many different 'world's

[The Zoogie People]

I'd like to lay claim that slice of land to the right of Frozopia, if I may, and call it Zoogiedom. Haven't quite decided if I want to go in a medieval Europe or Asian direction. Factbook coming, I suppose

Looks like some AOEII influence here, hehe...throwing axemen, "elite units"...

[Terror Incognitia]

Count me in. A nation of yeoman farmers and small traders, mostly, with a relatively weak nobility on top.
Location the Western half of the island just north of the bit Frozopia is on, details to follow.

[Vermin]

I'd like to participate If you'd allow me.

I used to be a regular RPer a while ago, so I think I can still a RP and dont worry, I will stick it out till the (my?) end.
I'd preffer a piece of land Where I have some neighbours, I'm not very good with navies.