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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:58 pm

Canstan II wrote:
San Lumen wrote:That will piss of a lot of conservatives to not come out to vote in November and I welcome it.

Nah man, GOP candidates are going to want to distance themselves from him. Guarantee even less likely to compromise. GOA is gonna come a knockin'.

and that went over very well when Democrats did that same thing in 2014.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:58 pm

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Corrian wrote:I am dying of laughter watching Trump insult the NRA. What the fuck is happening? (Said for the 50th time at least)

That will piss of a lot of conservatives to not come out to vote in November and I welcome it.

Yes. Seems like Trump is throwing a Hail Mary except he's mistakenly throwing the ball into the wrong end zone. What could go wrong?
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:04 pm

Someone must have made Trump think the NRA thought it owned him or something. Hilarious results though, particularly if the very unlikely happens and actual solid gun control laws get passed due to his temper tantrum.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:05 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Plenty of states permitted abortion. Forcing all states to do it is not the Federal Government's business, anymore than forcing Poland to legalize abortion is the Federal government's business. Tenth Amendment. If you want to force your ideology on the states, do it by the legal process of Amending the Constitution. Saying that if you worked according to the process you're supposed to, you would lose, that's tough shit. Not everyone agrees with legalizing abortion.


But forcing all states to lower the age at which you can buy a gun is totally the Federal Government's business. Or forcing states to re-criminalise marijuana is totally the Federal Government's business.

Wrong, the Federal government has no authority over handgun age and has no business enforcing the war on drugs except at the borders.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:06 pm

Albrenia wrote:Someone must have made Trump think the NRA thought it owned him or something. Hilarious results though, particularly if the very unlikely happens and actual solid gun control laws get passed due to his temper tantrum.

Republicans in Congress have already said they wont pass any such bill and are very upset with him.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:06 pm

Corrian wrote:I am dying of laughter watching Trump insult the NRA. What the fuck is happening? (Said for the 50th time at least)

Go check the_Donald. The cognitive dissonance is kicking in and the mods are desperately trying to censor the poor souls who are beginning to doubt their cult leader. :lol2:
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:08 pm

Liriena wrote:
Corrian wrote:I am dying of laughter watching Trump insult the NRA. What the fuck is happening? (Said for the 50th time at least)

Go check the_Donald. The cognitive dissonance is kicking in and the mods are desperately trying to censor the poor souls who are beginning to doubt their cult leader. :lol2:


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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:09 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Liriena wrote:Go check the_Donald. The cognitive dissonance is kicking in and the mods are desperately trying to censor the poor souls who are beginning to doubt their cult leader. :lol2:


Us over in the libertarian and gun subs are getting many a refugee.

Do what you can to rehabilitate the poor fellas.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:12 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Liriena wrote:Go check the_Donald. The cognitive dissonance is kicking in and the mods are desperately trying to censor the poor souls who are beginning to doubt their cult leader. :lol2:


Us over in the libertarian and gun subs are getting many a refugee.

And on the very same day Sargon of Akkad got his Google account disabled. Today is a sad day to be a chud. D':
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:14 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Plenty of states permitted abortion. Forcing all states to do it is not the Federal Government's business, anymore than forcing Poland to legalize abortion is the Federal government's business. Tenth Amendment. If you want to force your ideology on the states, do it by the legal process of Amending the Constitution. Saying that if you worked according to the process you're supposed to, you would lose, that's tough shit. Not everyone agrees with legalizing abortion.


*shrugs* ideology. Of course you don't have any of that.

Good luck on overturning RvW though.

If I wanted to shoehorn my ideology into the courts, I would say right to not be deprived of life without due process means no state can legalize abortion. But I don't do that, because I'm conservative, not progressive. I don't try to subvert the Constitution
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:16 pm

Liriena wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Us over in the libertarian and gun subs are getting many a refugee.

And on the very same day Sargon of Akkad got his Google account disabled. Today is a sad day to be a chud. D':


Sargon's gone from YouTube too then? I'm (almost) sad, he could be entertaining at times, and made a few good points here and there, sometimes.

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Postby Freezic Vast » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:19 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Liriena wrote:And on the very same day Sargon of Akkad got his Google account disabled. Today is a sad day to be a chud. D':


Sargon's gone from YouTube too then? I'm (almost) sad, he could be entertaining at times, and made a few good points here and there, sometimes.

His account is still up, so it wasn't deleted.

https://www.youtube.com/user/SargonofAkkad100/featured

tbf I was getting bored and tired of Sargon, although I am still sub'd to him.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:20 pm

Liriena wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Us over in the libertarian and gun subs are getting many a refugee.

Do what you can to rehabilitate the poor fellas.


Give 'em a gun and a Gadsden flag and send them on their way. If they die, they die...
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:33 pm

Telconi wrote:
Liriena wrote:Do what you can to rehabilitate the poor fellas.


Give 'em a gun and a Gadsden flag and send them on their way. If they die, they die...

Some of them may be Kekistanis, so you're probably better off giving them a plastic Roman armor and a supply of rare Pepes, the tools needed for them to LARP to their hearts' content. Only then should you send them along with the guys with the guns and Gadsden flags... and with that done, just sit back and enjoy.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:45 pm

The subversives of the GOP are flipping their shit over Trump's newest tariffs. He is getting around them by Section 232 of the 1962 Trade Act.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:46 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:The subversives of the GOP are flipping their shit over Trump's newest tariffs. He is getting around them by Section 232 of the 1962 Trade Act.

Its going to hurt his the base most. I really do feel as if he is deliberately trying to lose reelection

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:47 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:The subversives of the GOP are flipping their shit over Trump's newest tariffs. He is getting around them by Section 232 of the 1962 Trade Act.

Its going to hurt his the base most. I really do feel as if he is deliberately trying to lose reelection


The unions strongly back his play here.
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Postby Irona » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:49 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Its going to hurt his the base most. I really do feel as if he is deliberately trying to lose reelection


The unions strongly back his play here.

The Unions will shift left far easier than the NRA & Gun Nuts

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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:50 pm

Irona wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:
The unions strongly back his play here.

The Unions will shift left far easier than the NRA & Gun Nuts


>A left that has abandoned them

10/10 tell me more

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Postby Irona » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:51 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Irona wrote:The Unions will shift left far easier than the NRA & Gun Nuts


>A left that has abandoned them

10/10 tell me more

The left hasn't abandoned unions.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:52 pm

If there anything more ridiculous than hadicapping your own with worker's comp, environmental regulations and child labor laws, while simultaneously decrying any handicapping of their foreign competition?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:53 pm

Irona wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
>A left that has abandoned them

10/10 tell me more

The left hasn't abandoned unions.

Until they stop supporting open borders and unrestricted trade (both of which Bernie Sanders vehemently opposed), they have.
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Postby Irona » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:53 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:If there anything more ridiculous than hadicapping your own with worker's comp, environmental regulations and child labor laws, while simultaneously decrying any handicapping of their foreign competition?

Its almost as if workers comp, environmental regulations and child labour laws are good things....

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Postby Collatis » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:54 pm

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Postby Irona » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:54 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Irona wrote:The left hasn't abandoned unions.

Until they stop supporting open borders and unrestricted trade (both if which Bernie Sanders vehemently opposed), they have.

Do know what open borders and unrestricted trade means?

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