Gun Control: Shiny Toy Guns

[Wysten]

I do, yea. Because the problem is, again, not the gun.

Personally, I know I will probably never be a victim of a mass shooting. I know that I could have a gun pointed at my head at least once in my lifetime because some asshole decided they just didn't like me enough.

I, on the otherhand, don't associate with gangbangers or any other lowlifes who make a habit out of pointing guns at people who don't like me enough, so I'm not worried about having a gun pointed to my head. I can control that with my own common sense. What I can't control is accidentally walking into the wrong shopping mall at the wrong time of day, as rare as that may be.

You don't have to associate with scum bags to get a gun pointed at you though.

[Kernen]

Sometimes home intruder get shot. Should the home owners be charged?

That's a case where the home owner feels their life is in danger. Important distinction between protecting life vs. protecting property.

Not quite. Castle Doctrine creates a presumption in favor of homeowners acting lawfully when using lethal force against an intruder in their home. So you can absolutely kill to defend your property.

Brilliant plan, really. Disincentivize robbery, decrease court costs.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I do, yea. Because the problem is, again, not the gun.

Personally, I know I will probably never be a victim of a mass shooting. I know that I could have a gun pointed at my head at least once in my lifetime because some asshole decided they just didn't like me enough.

I, on the otherhand, don't associate with gangbangers or any other lowlifes who make a habit out of pointing guns at people who don't like me enough, so I'm not worried about having a gun pointed to my head. I can control that with my own common sense. What I can't control is accidentally walking into the wrong shopping mall at the wrong time of day, as rare as that may be.

Hahahahahahaha

It's not just gangbangers or other lowlifes who will point guns at your head. Anyone can do it.

[Topoliani]

Even though more people die from regular murders, mass murders take precedence because it scares you more? Because you're rich and certain you'll never be targeted, so mass murders scare you more and need to be stopped? This isn't actually about saving lives but just your own life and eliminating your own fears?

At least you are honest.

Only about 1% of the counties/cities in the US deal with "regular" murders the rest of the country only really has death through mass murder.

[I didnt vote for Trump]

I, on the otherhand, don't associate with gangbangers or any other lowlifes who make a habit out of pointing guns at people who don't like me enough, so I'm not worried about having a gun pointed to my head. I can control that with my own common sense. What I can't control is accidentally walking into the wrong shopping mall at the wrong time of day, as rare as that may be.

Doesn’t matter if you don’t associate with them, plenty of people still die in the crossfire in gang wars.

Don't pretend you care.

[Thermodolia]

I do, yea. Because the problem is, again, not the gun.

Personally, I know I will probably never be a victim of a mass shooting. I know that I could have a gun pointed at my head at least once in my lifetime because some asshole decided they just didn't like me enough.

I, on the otherhand, don't associate with gangbangers or any other lowlifes who make a habit out of pointing guns at people who don't like me enough, so I'm not worried about having a gun pointed to my head.

Evidently you have never lived in or been to the inner cities or high crime areas.

I can control that with my own common sense. What I can't control is accidentally walking into the wrong shopping mall at the wrong time of day, as rare as that may be.

Or getting mugged by a drug addict or walking on gang turf.

[Sovaal]

Even though more people die from regular murders, mass murders take precedence because it scares you more? Because you're rich and certain you'll never be targeted, so mass murders scare you more and need to be stopped? This isn't actually about saving lives but just your own life and eliminating your own fears?

At least you are honest.

Only about 1% of the counties/cities in the US deal with "regular" murders the rest of the country only really has death through mass murder. Thus those who made the choice to live in the 99% safe areas deserve to be prioritized over those who made the choice to live in the 1% murder ridden parts of the USA.

Its about saving those who made the choice to live in a safe place and protect them selves.

You know the best side dish for all those numbers you have there?

Sources.

And don’t act like you give a shit about “99%” of America.

[Ors Might]

Doesn’t matter if you don’t associate with them, plenty of people still die in the crossfire in gang wars.

Don't pretend you care.

Yeah why would proponents for self defense care about people being killed

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Even though more people die from regular murders, mass murders take precedence because it scares you more? Because you're rich and certain you'll never be targeted, so mass murders scare you more and need to be stopped? This isn't actually about saving lives but just your own life and eliminating your own fears?

At least you are honest.

Only about 1% of the counties/cities in the US deal with "regular" murders the rest of the country only really has death through mass murder. Thus those who made the choice to live in the 99% safe areas deserve to be prioritized over those who made the choice to live in the 1% murder ridden parts of the USA.

Its about saving those who made the choice to live in a safe place and protect them selves.

U fucking wot?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Doesn’t matter if you don’t associate with them, plenty of people still die in the crossfire in gang wars.

Don't pretend you care.

At least I do, Mr. "I don't associate with gangbangers or other lowlife sorts".

[Sovaal]

Doesn’t matter if you don’t associate with them, plenty of people still die in the crossfire in gang wars.

Don't pretend you care.

Pretend I care about what? People die in gag wars, because gangs are allowed to run rampant because frankly many police forces can’t handle them. Don’t know where the faux morality beating comes in.

[I didnt vote for Trump]

I, on the otherhand, don't associate with gangbangers or any other lowlifes who make a habit out of pointing guns at people who don't like me enough, so I'm not worried about having a gun pointed to my head. I can control that with my own common sense. What I can't control is accidentally walking into the wrong shopping mall at the wrong time of day, as rare as that may be.

Hahahahahahaha

It's not just gangbangers or other lowlifes who will point guns at your head. Anyone can do it.

Oh, so now you want to talk about random acts of violence.

Don't pretend you care.

At least I do, Mr. "I don't associate with gangbangers or other lowlife sorts".

No, you don't.

[Sovaal]

Don't pretend you care.

Yeah why would proponents for self defense care about people being killed

Nah man I’m just a gun owner totally incapable of human feelings like sympathy or empathy don’t mind me.

[Thermodolia]

Don't pretend you care.

Pretend I care about what? People die in gag wars, because gangs are allowed to run rampant because frankly many police forces can’t handle them. Don’t know where the faux morality beating comes in.

Not to mention there are areas in many cities where the police will not go. So they effectively become gang controlled areas.

[Wysten]

Hahahahahahaha

It's not just gangbangers or other lowlifes who will point guns at your head. Anyone can do it.

Oh, so now you want to talk about random acts of violence.

At least I do, Mr. "I don't associate with gangbangers or other lowlife sorts".

No, you don't.

Are you a telepath?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Hahahahahahaha

It's not just gangbangers or other lowlifes who will point guns at your head. Anyone can do it.

Oh, so now you want to talk about random acts of violence.

At least I do, Mr. "I don't associate with gangbangers or other lowlife sorts".

No, you don't.

I thought you wanted gun control measures to save lives?

Also, apparently you seem to think you know me. I will repeat: focusing on the gun is pointless. You're not going to stop people killing people by banning the guns, or making restrictions that apply to the guns.

[Ors Might]

Yeah why would proponents for self defense care about people being killed

Nah man I’m just a gun owner totally incapable of human feelings like sympathy or empathy don’t mind me.

Hey you busy tonight? It’s my turn to wrangle up some orphans for target practice at the range. Really been needing to test out my new heat seeking infinite ammunition

[I didnt vote for Trump]

Don't pretend you care.

Yeah why would proponents for self defense care about people being killed

Lmao

The only time you pay attention to the homicide rate is when you google it so you can argue on nationstates.

[Sovaal]

Pretend I care about what? People die in gag wars, because gangs are allowed to run rampant because frankly many police forces can’t handle them. Don’t know where the faux morality beating comes in.

Not to mention there are areas in many cities where the police will not go. So they effectively become gang controlled areas.

Same with many prisons.

[Topoliani]

Daily reminder that mass shootings happen on both sides of the gun control spectrum. There are a lot in Texas, and there are a lot in California.

[Kernen]

Yeah why would proponents for self defense care about people being killed

Lmao

The only time you pay attention to the homicide rate is when you google it so you can argue on nationstates.

Is that a problem?

[Sovaal]

Yeah why would proponents for self defense care about people being killed

Lmao

The only time you pay attention to the homicide rate is when you google it so you can argue on nationstates.

Man, if only you put as much effort as you do insulting people and making accusations as you did into making actual arguments.

[Wysten]

Yeah why would proponents for self defense care about people being killed

Lmao

The only time you pay attention to the homicide rate is when you google it so you can argue on nationstates.

Damn man are you a telepath because I don't think you know him at all.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yeah why would proponents for self defense care about people being killed

Lmao

The only time you pay attention to the homicide rate is when you google it so you can argue on nationstates.

I actually read the Unified Crime Reports yearly. What do you do, Mr. Gun Control?

[NewLiberalParty]

Only about 1% of the counties/cities in the US deal with "regular" murders the rest of the country only really has death through mass murder. Thus those who made the choice to live in the 99% safe areas deserve to be prioritized over those who made the choice to live in the 1% murder ridden parts of the USA.

Its about saving those who made the choice to live in a safe place and protect them selves.

You know the best side dish for all those numbers you have there?

Sources.

And don’t act like you give a shit about “99%” of America.

I do care about the 99% but you know I feel sad and agree for these kids being killed in school but in this Florida case I can't help but think that many of those parents supported the republican party's refusal to do anything on guns until it was their child dead. Those kids were let down by the poor decisions of the adults in voting.

In fact, 70 percent of the counties had only 4 percent of the murders