by Meekinos » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:07 am
by Bergnovinaia » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:08 am
by Meekinos » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:09 am
Bergnovinaia wrote:isn't this already covered by a multitude of different acts?
by Bergnovinaia » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:13 am
by Meekinos » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:20 am
Bergnovinaia wrote:I know that your nation is way older than mine but wouldn't it also be banned if it's already covered by other acts?
by Absolvability » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:21 am
by Meekinos » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:33 am
Absolvability wrote:The Charter of Civil Rights covers about half of this proposal. The whole anti-discrimination thing needs to be deleted or this will be illegal. While I understand your reasoning for having including it, you can no more commit an act of duplication than you can of contradiction.
While I appreciate the fact that you didn't try to outline and mandate any specific curriculum, I believe you will need to go into more detail about exactly what oppurtunities are provided to students... and how we might go about providing them. Otherwise, frankly, the proposal just doesn't have enough meat to it. Especially after you delete the necessary items.
by Absolvability » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:35 am
Meekinos wrote:So, I will be taking out the first, or at least just rewording it so it is less like the Civil Rights Charter.
proposal wrote:1) Each member nation shall not be restrict the pursuit of learning for its citizens based on any of the following:
a) sexual orientation
b) religious and/or political beliefs
c) ethnic, cultural and national background
d) gender and/or age
e) socio-economic status
f) marital status;
by Meekinos » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:43 am
Absolvability wrote:Meekinos wrote:So, I will be taking out the first, or at least just rewording it so it is less like the Civil Rights Charter.proposal wrote:1) Each member nation shall not be restrict the pursuit of learning for its citizens based on any of the following:
a) sexual orientation
b) religious and/or political beliefs
c) ethnic, cultural and national background
d) gender and/or age
e) socio-economic status
f) marital status;
How easy the clause is to recognize isn't the issue. It needs to be removed. It'll make your proposal easier to categorize anyway. You're writing about education, so stick to it.
by Absolvability » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:03 am
by Meekinos » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:48 pm
Absolvability wrote:Now we're getting somewhere. I especially like the part you added about ensuring affordability. This might finally bridge the gap between myself and Ambassador Mongkha in regards to the possible interaction between Access to Science in Schools and the Charter of Civil Rights.
Absolvability wrote:I wonder what levels of education you're including in this however? I have to admit that, in many nations, college is unnecessarily expensive. However there are often large gaps between the prices of a more ordinary college and some ivy league university. Prestige costs money... and perhaps that isn't the college's fault. As far as elementary and high school, I agree that they should be next-to-free... which is to say that a small tax increase would be all but unavoidable.
Absolvability wrote:Also, in regards to Clause 5 of your proposal, what levels of education do you mean to entail? And surely you don't mean to say that more specific vocational pathway courses will be limited??
by Meekinos » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:15 pm
by Linux and the X » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:21 pm
by Meekinos » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:53 pm
Linux and the X wrote:Could 10(e) be rephrased as "have any other form of educational system"? Not all nations rely upon formal schools.
by Malikov » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:03 pm
Meekinos wrote:
b) even the lowest income earners can return to school in order to better themselves without incurring a crippling debt;
"Friendship is two pals munching on a well cooked face together."Tiurabo wrote:Your forces are weak because you are capable of reigning them in.
by Meekinos » Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:05 am
Malikov wrote:Meekinos wrote:
b) even the lowest income earners can return to school in order to better themselves without incurring a crippling debt;
I know that this is a triviality, but under what this says right now, one could assume the the debt incured has to actually cripple you. Including a defenition of "crippling debt", or doing a quick re-word, would clear this up though.
This proposal has my full support. Great job writing this.
by New Rockport » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:50 am
by Linux and the X » Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:00 am
by Meekinos » Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:03 am
New Rockport wrote:We in New Rockport have no federal educational system. Education is administered through a department of education in each state. Therefore, sections 2 through 8 could be problematic. We could support this resolution if it allowed for education to be administered by sub-national entities rather than the federal government.
Respectfully submitted,
Silvana Rossi
Ambassador to the World Assembly, Republic of New Rockport
Delegate to the World Assembly, Region of Albion
by Meekinos » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:45 am
by Buffett and Colbert » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:54 am
Meekinos wrote:IT IS HEREBY proposed that this honourable assembly accept that each member nation shall:
Meekinos wrote:8) Not force a citizen out of school simply for reaching age ofmajoritymaturity;
You-Gi-Owe wrote:If someone were to ask me about your online persona as a standard of your "date-ability", I'd rate you as "worth investigating further & passionate about beliefs". But, enough of the idle speculation on why you didn't score with the opposite gender.
by Meekinos » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:57 am
Buffett and Colbert wrote:Meekinos wrote:IT IS HEREBY proposed that this honourable assembly accept that each member nation shall:Meekinos wrote:8) Not force a citizen out of school simply for reaching age ofmajoritymaturity;
Hasn't this been covered already anyway?
by Charlotte Ryberg » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:32 am
by Linux and the X » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:34 am
by Meekinos » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:43 am
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:The "age of maturity" best describes the age that a child legally becomes an adult, as specified by national law. The "age of majority" seems to describe the average age of the population.
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