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Let take over The Black Hawks

Postby Pro Life-2017 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:47 pm

Hello All,

Let's take over the region of the The Black Hawks. We should do this because they needed to be stoped. Here is the discord sever link: https://discord.gg/J5Wd7uM

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Postby Fratt » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:02 pm

It won't happen. It cannot be done. It'd be pointless.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:15 pm

Pro Life-2017 wrote:Hello All,

Let's take over the region of the The Black Hawks. We should do this because they needed to be stoped. Here is the discord sever link: https://discord.gg/J5Wd7uM

The Black Riders got raided, yet most of their members moved to DEN anyway (that was three years ago or so). Don't be so cocksure! ;)
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:18 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Pro Life-2017 wrote:Hello All,

Let's take over the region of the The Black Hawks. We should do this because they needed to be stoped. Here is the discord sever link: https://discord.gg/J5Wd7uM

The Black Riders got raided, yet most of their members moved to DEN anyway (that was three years ago or so). Don't be so cocksure! ;)


And also we raided them back harder.
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Postby Estlobies » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:21 pm

Yeah, have fun with that.

However, if by some miracle this actually works and you get a whole bunch of huge factions involved, our region's administrators might be able to help.
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Postby Colorado-Kansas » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:23 pm

Pro Life-2017 wrote:Hello All,

Let's take over the region of the The Black Hawks. We should do this because they needed to be stoped. Here is the discord sever link: https://discord.gg/J5Wd7uM


Tomorrow your region is going to be swiftly and utterly defeated by TBH because you're openly saying this.
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Postby Aglrinia » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:23 pm

Fratt wrote:It won't happen. It cannot be done. It'd be pointless.


Well, yes and no.

It would require long term infiltration, and rising through the ranks by countless people. Basically the infiltrators would have to become the black hawks, and then dismantle it once they assume the majority of the positions of power. This could be done either blatantly or by causing internal strife by finding a crack in the region's internal structure and making that crack bigger until more cracks are created. Then eventually it all falls down upon itself like a poorly built house of cards. However, any infiltration of such a scale risks the people becoming converted to the culture and if one person so much as squeaks about it the whole thing's ruined.

That's how I would go about it. But, personally I like the Black Hawks. They add some semblance of spice to gameplay, it hasn't been truly exciting for a couple years. At least they throw some spice into the mix.
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Postby Estlobies » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:24 pm

Colorado-Kansas wrote:
Pro Life-2017 wrote:Hello All,

Let's take over the region of the The Black Hawks. We should do this because they needed to be stoped. Here is the discord sever link: https://discord.gg/J5Wd7uM


Tomorrow your region is going to be swiftly and utterly defeated by TBH because you're openly saying this.

Insightful, but they probably have better things to do.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:27 pm

Aglrinia wrote:
Fratt wrote:It won't happen. It cannot be done. It'd be pointless.


Well, yes and no.

It would require long term infiltration, and rising through the ranks by countless people. Basically the infiltrators would have to become the black hawks, and then dismantle it once they assume the majority of the positions of power. This could be done either blatantly or by causing internal strife by finding a crack in the region's internal structure and making that crack bigger until more cracks are created. Then eventually it all falls down upon itself like a poorly built house of cards. However, any infiltration of such a scale risks the people becoming converted to the culture and if one person so much as squeaks about it the whole thing's ruined.

That's how I would go about it. But, personally I like the Black Hawks. They add some semblance of spice to gameplay, it hasn't been truly exciting for a couple years. At least they throw some spice into the mix.


Conversely, you help run the region for a year or two, contributing far more than you hurt, becuase you’re booted the moment you start to cause issues and not one, period, touches anything vital like the founder ;)
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Postby Aglrinia » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:32 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Aglrinia wrote:
Well, yes and no.

It would require long term infiltration, and rising through the ranks by countless people. Basically the infiltrators would have to become the black hawks, and then dismantle it once they assume the majority of the positions of power. This could be done either blatantly or by causing internal strife by finding a crack in the region's internal structure and making that crack bigger until more cracks are created. Then eventually it all falls down upon itself like a poorly built house of cards. However, any infiltration of such a scale risks the people becoming converted to the culture and if one person so much as squeaks about it the whole thing's ruined.

That's how I would go about it. But, personally I like the Black Hawks. They add some semblance of spice to gameplay, it hasn't been truly exciting for a couple years. At least they throw some spice into the mix.


Conversely, you help run the region for a year or two, contributing far more than you hurt, becuase you’re booted the moment you start to cause issues and not one, period, touches anything vital like the founder ;)


Yes, sadly that's a problem with destroying something from the inside out. If you're not successful all you've done is contribute to it, and made it better. But, as I've said I have no personal beefs with the Black Hawks and personally like what they contribute to gameplay - so I wouldn't do this.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:55 pm

2/11/2018, 2:43:42 PM CST: Pro Life-2017 relocated from Westphalia liberation force to The Black Hawks.
2/11/2018, 2:47:57 PM CST: Pro Life-2017 was ejected and banned from The Black Hawks by Ever-Wandering Souls.
2/11/2018, 2:47:57 PM CST: Pro Life-2017 relocated from The Black Hawks to The Rejected Realms.

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Postby Vulturret » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:57 pm

Also, gonna point out that TBH has a founder. No one likes all of your joke movements, Pro-Life.
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Jakker wrote:TBH is Pro-bring Life to GP

Lol. Can Pro Life just like join TGW or something? That's really the only effective way to stop raiders, as opposed to clogging up the GP forums.
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:46 pm

Pro Life-2017 wrote:Hello All,

Let's take over the region of the The Black Hawks. We should do this because they needed to be stoped. Here is the discord sever link: https://discord.gg/J5Wd7uM

Bad move mate, your region is probably gonna get invaded now :shock: :?
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