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Which caste are you in?

Brahmin
37
42%
Kshatriya
15
17%
Vaishya
14
16%
Shudra
18
20%
Dalit
4
5%
 
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:36 am

Big Jim P wrote:As most Americans can (and often do) qualify for more than one caste, how would you apply the systems to Americans in the first place? :blink:


I would venture to guess that the highest caste a person qualifies for, is their actual caste. But remember that it is primarily determined by what kind of family you're born into. No one is able to move castes under the caste system. A lower class person will remain low status from birth until the day they die.
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Postby The Vladivostok Confederacy » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:38 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Brahmin. I may have it good now, but when the bombs hit I'll grow a second head and be used as eminently tippable cattle.


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Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:39 am

The non-Hindu caste.

I'm a Shudra as of right now.
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Postby VoVoDoCo » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:44 am

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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:45 am

Having been both a priest and a teacher, I suppose I could be a Brahmin. But the ones I have known, although they could be charming at times, were also rather aloof and rigid.

I prefer the lawyers and businessmen I have known, whatever their various castes may be (Vaishya, I guess). They were more fun-loving.
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:49 am

Looks like I am a Shudra, since my family is working poor, but my father works at a university as a tutor, and my mum is currently in between jobs.
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Postby Lost Memories » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:02 am

Big Jim P wrote:As most Americans can (and often do) qualify for more than one caste, how would you apply the systems to Americans in the first place? :blink:

It shouldn't be possible because castes in India are based on birth. So unless you are indian you shouldn't be part of any caste.

This should be more of an hypothetical, if one was an indian while keeping their current work and education, which caste would they fit in.
It's done in reverse from status to caste, since it isn't possible to go normally from caste to status, since well, most of us aren't from and living in India.


It's actually a mess to rank this retroactively. My grandparents were Vaishyas and Shudras, my parents are Brahmins, and I'm Shudras now.
So what should be my family? Vaishyas with varying degrees?
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Postby Thervingia » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:07 am

Both of my parents are successful in the medical fields, and I'm about to embark on my own academic journey soon, so I guess we're brahmins. Although I did serve in the military, so I dunno.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:39 am

Thervingia wrote:Both of my parents are successful in the medical fields, and I'm about to embark on my own academic journey soon, so I guess we're brahmins. Although I did serve in the military, so I dunno.


For Brahmins in this thread, does it feel good to be at the top in terms of Caste or does it ring hollow if under those circumstances, you'd be allowed to oppress people who're lower in Caste than you are?

I know a lot of people (relatively speaking) now get 2 or 4 year degrees in college, so I reckon that true academics can be considered those who get a Masters or Doctorate degree- not as many people have the means or dedication to get that much higher education as opposed to just a 4 or 2 year degree which has become much more common (and thus less valuable) in today's era.

I am surprised that Brahmins are over represented in the poll, they're supposed to be the elite of the elite. But it might well be realistic for this website to have attracted a number of people who've gone to University for an awfully long time or are a teacher.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:47 am

Saiwania wrote:
Thervingia wrote:Both of my parents are successful in the medical fields, and I'm about to embark on my own academic journey soon, so I guess we're brahmins. Although I did serve in the military, so I dunno.


For Brahmins in this thread, does it feel good to be at the top in terms of Caste or does it ring hollow if under those circumstances, you'd be allowed to oppress people who're lower in Caste than you are?

I know a lot of people (relatively speaking) now get 2 or 4 year degrees in college, so I reckon that true academics can be considered those who get a Masters or Doctorate degree- not as many people have the means or dedication to get that much higher education as opposed to just a 4 or 2 year degree which has become much more common (and thus less valuable) in today's era.

I am surprised that Brahmins are over represented in the poll, they're supposed to be the elite of the elite. But it might well be realistic for this website to have attracted a number of people who've gone to University for an awfully long time or are a teacher.

You're asking people to rank themselves, with the possibility of being more elite than royalty.

Fucking duh everyone thinks they're the best.
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Postby Republic of Europe » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:51 am

Saiwania wrote:
Republic of Europe wrote:The caste system says that all white people belong to the Brahmin caste.


Where does it say that? What would be the rationale for this? I'd think that there just aren't that many White people in India, so would a White person who is otherwise very unskilled and poorly educated really still qualify as a Brahmin under the Caste system? From what I could gather, it primarily uses social class or occupation to determine who belongs to which caste.

It would seem that there is a clear benefit in that it has clearly defined social hierarchy and roles, but a great disadvantage is that people in the lower castes have no incentive to improve their lot in life.

A society that is more egalitarian, can probably become economically wealthier than a nation that still rigidly adheres to a caste system via bringing the majority of its population up to a higher level of education, which indirectly causes there to be more economic growth and opportunities than would otherwise exist.

When our chaps, whites, went to India, they enforced that all white people are considered to be superior than the natives, as a means to control them. We did it at school. And the caste system uses ancestry to determine who belongs where. You lie, it's considered a crime, as is people from the first 3 classes marry a Dalit.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:53 am

It's like advocating for feudalism. Anyone who openly does it assumes they will be in the ruling or upper class or caste. Nobody demands the return of feudalism with hopes of being a lowly serf abused by everyone else. Whoever wants a caste system in the West obviously assumes they won't be dhalit.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:21 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Caste systems are shit and we don't have one, so none.

This.

The reason that the caste system has survived so long is that it’s a top down power structure that you can never leave. Even medieval Europe you ‘could’ rise.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:22 am

Petrasylvania wrote:It's like advocating for feudalism. Anyone who openly does it assumes they will be in the ruling or upper class or caste. Nobody demands the return of feudalism with hopes of being a lowly serf abused by everyone else. Whoever wants a caste system in the West obviously assumes they won't be dhalit.

I mean isn’t att how most authoritarians work? They advocate for taking away the rights of other because they always imagine themselves as being part of the privileged?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:22 am

Petrasylvania wrote:It's like advocating for feudalism. Anyone who openly does it assumes they will be in the ruling or upper class or caste. Nobody demands the return of feudalism with hopes of being a lowly serf abused by everyone else. Whoever wants a caste system in the West obviously assumes they won't be dhalit.


At least in feudalism you could bump yourself up a few notches. That isn't possible in the case system.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:23 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:It's like advocating for feudalism. Anyone who openly does it assumes they will be in the ruling or upper class or caste. Nobody demands the return of feudalism with hopes of being a lowly serf abused by everyone else. Whoever wants a caste system in the West obviously assumes they won't be dhalit.


At least in feudalism you could bump yourself up a few notches. That isn't possible in the case system.

Sure it is. You just have to die and be reborn to richer and more important parents.
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Postby Thervingia » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:25 am

Saiwania wrote:
Thervingia wrote:Both of my parents are successful in the medical fields, and I'm about to embark on my own academic journey soon, so I guess we're brahmins. Although I did serve in the military, so I dunno.


For Brahmins in this thread, does it feel good to be at the top in terms of Caste or does it ring hollow if under those circumstances, you'd be allowed to oppress people who're lower in Caste than you are?

I know a lot of people (relatively speaking) now get 2 or 4 year degrees in college, so I reckon that true academics can be considered those who get a Masters or Doctorate degree- not as many people have the means or dedication to get that much higher education as opposed to just a 4 or 2 year degree which has become much more common (and thus less valuable) in today's era.

I am surprised that Brahmins are over represented in the poll, they're supposed to be the elite of the elite. But it might well be realistic for this website to have attracted a number of people who've gone to University for an awfully long time or are a teacher.

Nah, I'm pretty content with that.

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Saiwania wrote:
For Brahmins in this thread, does it feel good to be at the top in terms of Caste or does it ring hollow if under those circumstances, you'd be allowed to oppress people who're lower in Caste than you are?

I know a lot of people (relatively speaking) now get 2 or 4 year degrees in college, so I reckon that true academics can be considered those who get a Masters or Doctorate degree- not as many people have the means or dedication to get that much higher education as opposed to just a 4 or 2 year degree which has become much more common (and thus less valuable) in today's era.

I am surprised that Brahmins are over represented in the poll, they're supposed to be the elite of the elite. But it might well be realistic for this website to have attracted a number of people who've gone to University for an awfully long time or are a teacher.

You're asking people to rank themselves, with the possibility of being more elite than royalty.

Fucking duh everyone thinks they're the best.

I just read the OP and "ranked" myself based on that. No superiority complexes here, friend.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:26 am

I guess that makes me a Kshatriya. Still think the Caste system is dumb.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:26 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:It's like advocating for feudalism. Anyone who openly does it assumes they will be in the ruling or upper class or caste. Nobody demands the return of feudalism with hopes of being a lowly serf abused by everyone else. Whoever wants a caste system in the West obviously assumes they won't be dhalit.


At least in feudalism you could bump yourself up a few notches. That isn't possible in the case system.

Step 1: Burn a few sheep alive.

Step 2: Tell everybody it was a dragon.

Step 3: Have local lord offer a place of position for who ever slays the dragon.

Step 4: Bravily offer to go slay dragon.

Step 5: Go to the next town over, and some crocodile products, or find the biggest lizard you can.

Step 6: Return triumphant. Become a lord.

Step 7: Spend the rest of your days lording over peasant farmers and raping their daughters.

Step 8: Hope dragons aren’t real and that you get called up to kill it.

Step 9: Don’t get called to war.

Step 10: Profit?
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:30 am

Saiwania wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:As most Americans can (and often do) qualify for more than one caste, how would you apply the systems to Americans in the first place? :blink:


I would venture to guess that the highest caste a person qualifies for, is their actual caste. But remember that it is primarily determined by what kind of family you're born into. No one is able to move castes under the caste system. A lower class person will remain low status from birth until the day they die.

If we are going by family I’m a Kshatriya. Since about half of my family and all of my great grandparents and several of my grandparents where military
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:33 am

Ifreann wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
For Brahmins in this thread, does it feel good to be at the top in terms of Caste or does it ring hollow if under those circumstances, you'd be allowed to oppress people who're lower in Caste than you are?

I know a lot of people (relatively speaking) now get 2 or 4 year degrees in college, so I reckon that true academics can be considered those who get a Masters or Doctorate degree- not as many people have the means or dedication to get that much higher education as opposed to just a 4 or 2 year degree which has become much more common (and thus less valuable) in today's era.

I am surprised that Brahmins are over represented in the poll, they're supposed to be the elite of the elite. But it might well be realistic for this website to have attracted a number of people who've gone to University for an awfully long time or are a teacher.

You're asking people to rank themselves, with the possibility of being more elite than royalty.

Fucking duh everyone thinks they're the best.


I'm an evolved form of Brahmin, they're thinking of calling the new higher caste Brahmax.
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Postby Dagashi Shoujo » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:35 am

None of them, I'm not Indian.
Republic of Europe wrote:The caste system says that all white people belong to the Brahmin caste.


What, no it doesn't.
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Postby The Transhuman Union » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:35 am

Ifreann wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
At least in feudalism you could bump yourself up a few notches. That isn't possible in the case system.

Sure it is. You just have to die and be reborn to richer and more important parents.


Or revolt.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:35 am

Sovaal wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
At least in feudalism you could bump yourself up a few notches. That isn't possible in the case system.

Step 1: Burn a few sheep alive.

Step 2: Tell everybody it was a dragon.

Step 3: Have local lord offer a place of position for who ever slays the dragon.

Step 4: Bravily offer to go slay dragon.

Step 5: Go to the next town over, and some crocodile products, or find the biggest lizard you can.

Step 6: Return triumphant. Become a lord.

Step 7: Spend the rest of your days lording over peasant farmers and raping their daughters.

Step 8: Hope dragons aren’t real and that you get called up to kill it.

Step 9: Don’t get called to war.

Step 10: Profit?

Don’t worry Lords never got called to war
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:36 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You're asking people to rank themselves, with the possibility of being more elite than royalty.

Fucking duh everyone thinks they're the best.


I'm an evolved form of Brahmin, they're thinking of calling the new higher caste Brahmax.

Brahmax have a third head and an extra pair of legs to make them untippable.
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