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[SUBMITTED] For Want Of A Horseshoe

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[SUBMITTED] For Want Of A Horseshoe

Postby Singapore no2 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:05 am

Also known as《Debate About The Senate 2:
Election Boogaloo》


[desc] Taking advantage of the divided and uncoordinated parliament, an unlikely coalition of fascist demagogues and communist rabble-rousers, calling themselves the Horseshoe Alliance, managed to pass a seemingly innocent bill that effectively dissolves democracy through a constitutional amendment. Horrified political leaders are calling for something to be done to stop the resolution.

[validity] only valid for democratic nations with no senate

[option] "We must bring back the senate!" insists @@RANDOMNAME@@, the Chairperson of the Authoritarian Democrats, who is coincidentally a former senator. "The outwardly innocuous bill that was passed grants the Horseshoe Alliance the power to dissolve all other political parties and ban elections. As desperate times call for desperate measures, we have no choice but to carefully select a team of qualified individuals - such as myself - to form a senate, in order to prevent a hostile takeover by totalitarian extremists. It may not be optimal, but it's still preferable to a psychotic dictatorship."
[effect] an unelected senate has been installed to 'save democracy'
[policy] a senate is installed

[option] "Forcing a council of unrepresentative tyrants upon the nation would make us no better than the Horseshoe Alliance," dismisses the First Member of the Inoffensive Centrist Party, uncharacteristically forming an opinion of @@HIS@@ own. "We cannot forsake our democratic ideals under any circumstances. The correct way to resolve the situation is to hold public referendums on bills that are considered to be controversial. At least, even if the outcome is an end to democracy, we can be certain that the will of the people is carried out."
[effect] time-consuming referendums are often used to stall bills that @@LEADER@@ personally dislikes

[option] "What's so bad about us taking over?" questions Joedolf Statler, the Supreme General Secretary of the Horseshoe Alliance, handing you a copy of their party manifesto. "We only have one goal, which is to free our glorious motherland from the shackles of non-@@DEMONYM@@ economic exploitation. @@LEADER@@, why don't you join our alliance and partake in the patriotic revolution of the oppressed majority? Your charisma and experience will be the key to our success!"
[effect] a dictatorship with a strange and inconsistent ideology has seized control of @@NAME@@
[policy] autocracy and socialism installed

The Horseshoe Alliance is a homage to the Horseshoe Effect.

The 2nd option speaker is a reference to the Neutral People of Futurama.

The 3rd option is a parody of National Bolshevism.
Last edited by Singapore no2 on Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:19 pm, edited 9 times in total.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:09 am

Very nice!

This is the sort of reinstate-upper-house issue I was looking for. Nice one.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:10 am

Fair warning though, my next self-edit is probably this one:

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No topic overlap at all, but the titles may be similar.
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Postby Singapore no2 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:20 am

Any comments?
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This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:24 am

Isn't there a constitution to prevent this from happening?
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Postby Singapore no2 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:29 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Isn't there a constitution to prevent this from happening?

Added that there was a constitutional amendment.
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We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
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Postby Divitalia » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:03 pm

I feel that the additional information about the Horseshoe Alliance in Option 3 would be better if moved to the issue description, it just feels out of place after you’ve already established what the Horseshoe Alliance is.

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Postby Singapore no2 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:10 pm

Divitalia wrote:I feel that the additional information about the Horseshoe Alliance in Option 3 would be better if moved to the issue description, it just feels out of place after you’ve already established what the Horseshoe Alliance is.

Suggestion implemented.
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This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Postby Singapore no2 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:21 am

Any more components to be corrected?
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Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Postby Fauxia » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:25 pm

Option 1- Just say “Senator” not “Senatorial Member”

I liked the references to NS categories, you seemed to kinda drop them. In option 2, you could’ve made it the Inoffensive Centrist Party or something- though I understand it’s a reference and you may not want to change it. In the third, you might have an offhand comment about “not being a corrupt dictatorship” or something.
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Postby Singapore no2 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:15 pm

Fauxia wrote:I liked the references to NS categories, you seemed to kinda drop them. In option 2, you could’ve made it the Inoffensive Centrist Party or something- though I understand it’s a reference and you may not want to change it.

Done.
Fauxia wrote:In the third, you might have an offhand comment about “not being a corrupt dictatorship” or something.

I think that would detract from the narrative.
My Published Issues
Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Postby Singapore no2 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:42 am

Any more suggestions?
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This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
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Postby Merconitonitopia » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:29 pm

none at all, this is the perfect issue.

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Postby Singapore no2 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:54 am

Any further amendments to be made?
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Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:13 am

It's a good issue.
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Postby Singapore no2 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:19 pm

Due to overwhelming popular support, I have decided to submit this issue.
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Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Postby Jutsa » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:58 am

Good luck! :)
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Postby Fauxia » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:01 pm

Yes, the New York Times Democrats support this as a submission. Good luck.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:17 am

Good luck!
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