Pandæmonium (OOC Thread, Discussion, Planning)

[Unilisia]

I would, that would definitely be an interesting showdown...or at least beat down of NEMA by Ghol.

Azura's Judean lands are currently under my protection, until his government is re-established. I have TGed him about it.

[The Master M]

Foreign territories of Azura are not of concern; the integrity of Gholgothic regional territory are. So, to clarify, what action have NEMA taken thus far?

[Altimaea]

As an addenum to my prevous post: so what you are saying is that the alliance NEMA has breached Gholgoth territorial waters with armed vessels? I'm sure that many people would be less than happy about that, myself included.

Hehhh. So what do you want me to do? I have already posted several times. Also I never said we were in Gholgoth or Gholgothian waters. Are you seriously proposing that you will declare war on us because I'm helping an ally and a member of Gholgoth to which you belong?

[Solm]

As an addenum to my prevous post: so what you are saying is that the alliance NEMA has breached Gholgoth territorial waters with armed vessels? I'm sure that many people would be less than happy about that, myself included.

In now way has NEMA endorsed any breach of Gholgoth territorial waters. Any and all vessels being reportedly portrayed as being endorsed and/or sponsored by NEMA is false, as NEMA has not made any decisions regarding such. Such vessels or persons shall be deemed independent of NEMA. NEMA has taken no official actions regarding this situation in Azura as of yet. All nations acting in aid are of their own independent control and influence.

[Wewtlandem]

Foreign territories of Azura are not of concern; the integrity of Gholgothic regional territory are. So, to clarify, what action have NEMA taken thus far?

I am a member of NEMA, but am adhering to any guidelines set out by members of Gholgoth.

[Altimaea]

As an addenum to my prevous post: so what you are saying is that the alliance NEMA has breached Gholgoth territorial waters with armed vessels? I'm sure that many people would be less than happy about that, myself included.

In now way has NEMA endorsed any breach of Gholgoth territorial waters. Any and all vessels being reportedly portrayed as being endorsed and/or sponsored by NEMA is false, as NEMA has not made any decisions regarding such. Such vessels or persons shall be deemed independent of NEMA. NEMA has taken no official actions regarding this situation in Azura as of yet. All nations acting in aid are of their own independent control and influence.

Very well. Ill edit my posts.

[Solm]

In now way has NEMA endorsed any breach of Gholgoth territorial waters. Any and all vessels being reportedly portrayed as being endorsed and/or sponsored by NEMA is false, as NEMA has not made any decisions regarding such. Such vessels or persons shall be deemed independent of NEMA. NEMA has taken no official actions regarding this situation in Azura as of yet. All nations acting in aid are of their own independent control and influence.

Very well. Ill edit my posts.

You are a NEMA nation, however, and are free to take independent action regarding this situation. But, as of now, NEMA has not organized an official response with the current developing Azura situation.

[Altimaea]

Very well. Ill edit my posts.

You are a NEMA nation, however, and are free to take independent action regarding this situation. But, as of now, NEMA has not organized an official response with the current developing Azura situation.

I guess that is sorta what I meant.

As an addenum to my prevous post: so what you are saying is that the alliance NEMA has breached Gholgoth territorial waters with armed vessels? I'm sure that many people would be less than happy about that, myself included.

Hehhh. So what do you want me to do? I have already posted several times. Also I never said we were in Gholgoth or Gholgothian waters. Are you seriously proposing that you will declare war on us because I'm helping an ally and a member of Gholgoth to which you belong?

If you would like me to ferry an inspection team to the refuge we have set up i will gladly do it. I think the sick, injured and homeless people will not be to happy about having the people taking care of them kicked out but hey, whatever.

[The Master M]

As an addenum to my prevous post: so what you are saying is that the alliance NEMA has breached Gholgoth territorial waters with armed vessels? I'm sure that many people would be less than happy about that, myself included.

Hehhh. So what do you want me to do? I have already posted several times. Also I never said we were in Gholgoth or Gholgothian waters. Are you seriously proposing that you will declare war on us because I'm helping an ally and a member of Gholgoth to which you belong?

So how did you get to Azura without passing through Gholgothic waters? Magic?

[Altimaea]

Hehhh. So what do you want me to do? I have already posted several times. Also I never said we were in Gholgoth or Gholgothian waters. Are you seriously proposing that you will declare war on us because I'm helping an ally and a member of Gholgoth to which you belong?

So how did you get to Azura without passing through Gholgothic waters? Magic?

Airplanes.

[The Master M]

SAMs. Surface to Air Missiles.

AAM. Air to Air Missiles.

Aircraft + either of the above = boom.

[Ralkovia]

Magical Flying Carpets of course.

[Tergnitz]

Magical Flying Carpets of course.

TSI...

[Altimaea]

SAMs. Surface to Air Missiles.

AAM. Air to Air Missiles.

Aircraft + either of the above = boom.

Well considering Azura has unfortunately been hit by a massive nuclear calamity their SAM systems are now down. Nobobody seemed to be shooting down my AWAC and no one challenged it so we figured everyone was dead. Therefore we sent immeadiate aid by air into New Azura from a base in international waters. Happy?

[The Master M]

SAMs. Surface to Air Missiles.

AAM. Air to Air Missiles.

Aircraft + either of the above = boom.

Well considering Azura has unfortunately been hit by a massive nuclear calamity their SAM systems are now down. Nobobody seemed to be shooting down my AWAC and no one challenged it so we figured everyone was dead. Therefore we sent immeadiate aid by air into New Azura from a base in international waters. Happy?

You would still have to fly past the SAM defences of Novacom and myself, not to mention those of any naval forces in the area.

[LOVE DOG]

Well considering Azura has unfortunately been hit by a massive nuclear calamity their SAM systems are now down. Nobobody seemed to be shooting down my AWAC and no one challenged it so we figured everyone was dead. Therefore we sent immeadiate aid by air into New Azura from a base in international waters. Happy?

You would still have to fly past the SAM defences of Novacom and myself, not to mention those of any naval forces in the area.

He used his stealth spells, M.

[Tergnitz]

Well considering Azura has unfortunately been hit by a massive nuclear calamity their SAM systems are now down. Nobobody seemed to be shooting down my AWAC and no one challenged it so we figured everyone was dead. Therefore we sent immeadiate aid by air into New Azura from a base in international waters. Happy?

You would still have to fly past the SAM defences of Novacom and myself, not to mention those of any naval forces in the area.

TMM, I agree with you, he is definitely in the wrong here and should have simply posted that his forces were travelling through Gholgoth territory before landing. However, don't you think it is a bit late for this discussion now? I mean it’s not like he landed a large invasion force. Maybe you guys could compromise and just say a very small team of soldiers and medical professionals have landed in NA?

[No endorse]

guys, just roll with it.

If you don't like him here (and I'm not so sure I like him there*, but I'm willing to let things drift for a while), then call open season on his assets in the area



*well, to rephrase, I don't know anything about why he's there. So, I consider motives unknown, and intend to question the first person I find of his.

[Altimaea]

You would still have to fly past the SAM defences of Novacom and myself, not to mention those of any naval forces in the area.

TMM, I agree with you, he is definitely in the wrong here and should have simply posted that his forces were travelling through Gholgoth territory before landing. However, don't you think it is a bit late for this discussion now? I mean it’s not like he landed a large invasion force. Maybe you guys could compromise and just say a very small team of soldiers and medical professionals have landed in NA?

Exactly that is all that it was in the first place. We have cargo planes flying from the exterior in from our base in international waters. We have a 1 company of soldiers. With about 10 IFV's, a couple LAVs (HUMVEE type thing.) and about 25 medical personel. We have established a small airstip with two reconaissance planes used for locating survivors (Totally unarmed). The Bases size and area for defensive patrols is approximately 3km square. If you want intercept the cargo planes coming into New Azura and search them then send them on their way, they contain nothing illicit.

[Automagfreek]

Altimaea, I don't think you're understanding Azura's position relative to everyone else in Gholgoth. Take a look at our map: http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/8276 ... date1q.png

Now, in order to reach Azura, you'd have to move past Novacom and or The Master M. And in that event they would have an opportunity to intercept you. I'm not saying that your small force represents any kind of serious threat that we can't deal with, but not giving Novacom or The Master M a chance to respond is unfair to them and unrealistic for this scenario.

[Altimaea]

Altimaea, I don't think you're understanding Azura's position relative to everyone else in Gholgoth. Take a look at our map: http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/8276 ... date1q.png

Now, in order to reach Azura, you'd have to move past Novacom and or The Master M. And in that event they would have an opportunity to intercept you. I'm not saying that your small force represents any kind of serious threat that we can't deal with, but not giving Novacom or The Master M a chance to respond is unfair to them and unrealistic for this scenario.

Hmmm. Well that would make a little more sense. I was using the map in Azura's sig and it said he was an island lol. Anyways, just pretend the radiation glitched your radar and my lone cargo plane and AWAC weren't seen. However, I did have my plane orbiting off the coast of the Azura and no one challenged it. If you want to intercept a plane for shits and giggles I'll rp a flight inbound.

[Automagfreek]

GeneralHaNor, Maychion, how is it that you both have forces inside Azura? We just had this discussion with Altimaea in this thread.

[Maychion]

GeneralHaNor, Maychion, how is it that you both have forces inside Azura? We just had this discussion with Altimaea in this thread.

Sorry, if you want me to, I'll delete them. I haven't been following this thread closely you see. Cramming for my O Levels are taking up loads of time. I'll read over everything I missed. Once again, sorry. I'll delete my posts, unless an edit to another form is fine?

[Ekraysia]

I've never seen a nation in Gholgoth that has under one billion pop. I would just build defenses and hope for the best.

I RP with a cap set at 566,200,000.

[Castleclose]

GeneralHaNor, Maychion, how is it that you both have forces inside Azura? We just had this discussion with Altimaea in this thread.

While I can't answer for Maychion GeneralHaNor is RP'ing the troops of his that were part of the Azuran foreign legion thus already in the territory when the attack started.