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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:39 pm

I had no time to properly work on a post today, but I shall make my first post tomorrow.

And as always, Roman characters are open for interaction.
I'm a Romanian, a vampire, an anime enthusiast and a roleplayer.
Hello there! I am Tracian Empire! You can call me Tracian, Thrace, Thracian, Thracr, Thracc or whatever you want. Really.

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Postby The Traansval » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:45 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:I had no time to properly work on a post today, but I shall make my first post tomorrow.

And as always, Roman characters are open for interaction.

So what is the status on the Suez? Do the Romans have any plans to construct it? I assume that building and controlling the Canal would make Rome one of the most powerful trade nations, as they could tax shipping through it.

Then again, that would probably hurt the Dutch as our Cape Colony is effectively a pitstop on the way to the Indies.

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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:50 pm

The Traansval wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:I had no time to properly work on a post today, but I shall make my first post tomorrow.

And as always, Roman characters are open for interaction.

So what is the status on the Suez? Do the Romans have any plans to construct it? I assume that building and controlling the Canal would make Rome one of the most powerful trade nations, as they could tax shipping through it.

Then again, that would probably hurt the Dutch as our Cape Colony is effectively a pitstop on the way to the Indies.

The entire Roman position in the Mediterranean might change soon, more on that tomorrow, but yes, the Romans will attempt to construct such a canal, while at the same time trying to create better trade relations with the Oriental powers. My opening post will probably contain a mention of how people sent by Constantinople are trying to estimate what it would take to build such a canal.
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Postby Oscalantine » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:27 am

Posted! This took WAAAAy too long... I will get better at this once I get used to the posting style again.

At any rate... I see some TGs and some discord stuff... I guess back to OPing business ^^;;;

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Postby Zarzadon » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:32 pm

It's pretty obvious by this point but I'm not going to be able to participate in this due to life stuff. If you're still reserving my claims for whatever reason revoke them. Sorry for taking so long to do this.
i need to update this

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Postby The Brand New Salvatagard Republic » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:23 pm

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Full Nation Name : The Republic of Germany
Majority/Official Culture : German/Prussian/Bavarian
Territorial Core : Germany, Bohemia, Austria, rest of Poland
Territorial Claim : [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]] East Prussia, West Prussia, Pomerania, Slovenia, Alsace-Lorraine, Luxembourg, and Venito/Province of Venice
Capital City : Berlin
Population : 53.5 million

Government Type : [[Monarchy, Republic, etc.]] A Semi-Presidential Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]] Militant/Expansionist (like a really early version of fascism), getting rid of the Bohemians Poles and Franks so that German can repopulate thier lands
Government Focus : [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]] Military
Head of State : [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]] President Frederick von Hohenzollern (real life King Frederick Wilhelm IV of Prussia)
Head of Government : [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]] President Frederick von Hohenzollern
Government Description :The Government is soley led by the President. The Volksversammlung (People's Assembly), which has 200 members, makes up the laws, unless the President disagrees with the law a member has created. The President can dissolve the Assembly at anytime, call up reelections for members (even if they just got in Office) at anytime, declare War at anytime, and appoint family members as judges of the Volksgericht (People's Court) at any time. There's 3 Judges in the Volksgericht. The Elections for President is held every 5 years (except in times of War), with each President having unlimited terms.

Majority/State Religion : Protestantism
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]] Socialist
Major Production : firearms, agricultural tools, agricultural products, raw iron
Economic Description : Germany's economic powerhouse, the Rhineland, is the heart of German industry. It holds most of Germany's iron production, making it have Germany's biggest metal works. But, most of Germany is still agricultural, primarily in Bavaria and Bohemia. Since the creation of the Republic, the GDP of Germany has grown from 13.1 billion in 1840 to 15.7 billion, which is kinda impressive, considering the Great Revolution of 1848, the Great Panic of 1846, and the People's Revolution of 1840. The German economy is primarily focused on industry, on Armaments.


Tech Group : [Read "Centers of Modernization," European, Oriental, Mesoamerican, N/A (default is N/A)]

Army Description : [[Describe your nation's army in as much detail as you can]] [spoiler]The Volksarmee (People's Army) was first created in 1839, 1 year before the Republic was formed. It was basically a small militia of Prussia. In 1840, the leader of the German Confederal Frankfurt Parliament saw that Germany was on the verge of collapse, especially when King Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia died in early June of that year. He declared that he sees a dark future if Austria rules all of Germany, or, if Germany collapses, making it easier for neighbors to conquer German lands, especially the Franks and Poland. Most Parliament members were in shock by the speech. The next day, the leader of the Frankfurt Parliament decided that it was time for Germany to officially unify as an actual country. He spoke about a more unified Germany. He said that 'our lands and countrymen will prosper, with every generation there-after.'. He then declared, as it known as, the Formal Act of Unification, which every Parliament member must vote yes or no for an actual Unified Germany. The voting process took nearly a week. Out of 583 members of Parliament, 419 voted for "yes". The Austrians thought that this was an act of War by the members who voted "yes". The German Confederation collapsed into 2 nations, the German Republic (led by Prussia), and the Empire of the Germans (led by Austria). The German Republic, controlling most of Northern Germany, with the exception of Hanover, quickly got men into it's Arms, 38,000 in the first week. The President, King Friedrich Wilhelm IV of Prussia, called it the Volksarmee, after the last unit created by the late Friedrich Wilhelm III. In the Empire, it was having trouble getting men, especially in Austria. But it had one major advantage over the Republic, the Kingdom of Hanover was in the Empire. The Kaiserliche Armee (The Imperial Army) only got 20,000 in the first month. On September 19, 1840, the Volksarmee and the Kaiserliche Armee had it's first stand off, in the city of Stade, near the Hanoverian-Prussian border. The Volksarmee were confindent, with strong morale, with 42,000 soldiers, opposing 34,000 poorly-prepared soldiers of the Kaiserliche Armee. The battle, a week long, was won by the Volksarmee, only suffering 6,000 casualties, with the Kaiserliche Armee suffering 11,000 casualties. The War went on until early 1842 when the Empire surrendered after the 3rd Siege of Vienna. The War costed over 200,00 casualties, with the old Kaiserliche Armee getting over 109,000 casualties. Towns and cities were devastated from the War. President Friedrich decided to release most of the Volksarmee for civil services, basically rebuilding cities. Within 1.5 years, the Republic was done rebuilding itself from the War.
The Volksarmee is basically the sole protector of the German Republic. It has 800,000 units, along with 300,000 reserves. Each man is equipped with the 1835 Neue Korps-Jägerbüchse, a saber, 300 rounds of ammo, a canteen, 2 days worth of food, and a shovel. The Infantry Uniform is Navy Blue, with Gold stripes going horizontal on the back. 10 Brass buttons lined up the chest of the Uniform, each having to be polished. The Cavalry Uniform is Light Blue with Black Stripes going vertical on the sides, with 8 Brass buttons lined up the chest for the Uniform. The Hat for the entire Military is the Pickelhaube. The Volkskavallerie (People's Cavalry) is made up of former Aristocrats, mainly from Prussia. The Cavalry has 40,000 active units and 60,000 reserves. Each man is equipped with the British New Land Pattern Cavalry Pistol ( Napoleonic Wars), a 1811 Kavalleriebüchse, a saber, 200 rounds of ammo, a canteen, and a days worth of food. Every man in the Volksarmee has had at least 5 years in the military, with extremely heavy drilling. Every man in the Volkskavallerie has had at least 5 years experience with horses. Basically, the military is drilled alot so that nothing can fail, and that the units can do it alone during the night.
Army Weakness : Can't travel as quick as other nation's units, get tired easily, too confident, outdated weaponry
Naval Description : [[Describe your nation's navy in as much detail as you can]] The Volksmarine (People's Navy) is seen as a menace to other countries. The Navy is primarily based in the North Sea and the Baltic Sea, keeping a close eye on it's enemies, the Teutonics and the Franks. The Navy has 80 ships, with 68 of them being made of wood. The 12 ships, made of metal, are small Ironclad prototypes, inspired by Britain's gunboat, the Nemesis. The Navy has 34,440 regular sailors and 65,560 reserve sailors. After the Republic was done rebuilding itself from the People's Revolution, it tried out getting some Colonies in Brazil and India, but failed, proving the Volksmarine to be not as strong as the navy of the Dutch and the Iberian Navy. Since the failed attempt at getting Colonies, the Navy has gotten stronger, training more sailors, building more ships, and attempting to build a U-Boat prototype (which failed countless times).
Naval Weakness : Ships not reliable for combat, not disciplined as well, little courage
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]] The Volksarmee is organized by amount of manpower in each group. The groups: Squads, Companies, Regiments, Battalions, Divisions, Armies, Grand Armies.
Squads have 15 men
Companies have 5-7 squads (75-105 men)
Regiments have 3 Companies (225-315 men)
Battalions have 10-14 Regiments (2,250-3,150 men)
Divisions have 4-6 Battalions (9,000-18,900 men)
Armies have 2-4 Divisions (18,000-75,600 men)
Grand Armies have 2-3 Armies (36,000-226,800)
The Strongest Grand Army is the Presidential Guards, at a massive 226,800 strong. It's the most Elite of the Grand Armies, but it's rarely used. Thus, making the Presidential Guards weaker then usual. Because of it's weakness, soldiers from regular Grand Armies are switched with a soldier of the Presidential Guard, wasting valuable coal and wood (on trains) from transporting the soldiers. Most Grand Armies have 72,000-108,000 soldiers. There's actually 10 Grand Armies in the Volksarmee. The Volksmarine is fairly similar.
Squads have 10 men
Companies have 8-9 squads (80-90 men)
Platoons have 4-5 companies (320-450 men)

The German Republic actually 2 Militaries. We were just talking about the first one, which is controlled by the Volksversammlung. The second military is the Präsidentenarmee (Presidential Army). This military has 10,000 soldiers and 30,000 reserves, and is controlled by the President himself.

Both Militaries combined has 1,340,000 men in its Arms.

National Goals : Reunite all Historical German lands under one banner
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]] Former grumbling Austrian leaders have formed Secession groups in the Republic, primarily focusing on Southern Germany and Austria. The Government has some corruption, making 11% of the population (5.8 million) restless with the Government. The Bohemians getting tired of high taxes (on Non-Germans).
National Figures of Interest : King Frederick the Great of Prussia, Duke Albert I of Prussia, Emperor Otto I the Great of the HRE
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]Have the Military the best in Europe, retry at having colonies, make Poland and the Teutonic Order bow down to the German Republic, conquer former German lands
Rival: the Teutonic Order, Poland

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]
962; King Otto of the Kingdom of Germany conquers the Kingdom of Italy, thus creating the Holy Roman Empire
1356; the Golden Bull is introduced by Emperor Karl IV and the Imperial Diet, making the position of Emperor an Elective office
1440; Emperor Friedrich III is crowned, the first Habsburg Emperor
1517; Martin Luther introduces his 96 points, starting the Reformation
1525; the German Peasants' War starts
1525; Prussia is formed as a puppet of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
1526; the German Peasants' War ends
1568; the 80 Years War starts
1618; the 30 Years War starts
1648; the 30 Years War and the 80 Years War ends, losing most non-German lands
1700; the Great Northern War starts
1701; Prussia becomes a Kingdom
1721; the Great Northern War ends
1740; King Friedrich the Great is crowned King of Prussia
1789; the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars start
1806; the HRE collapses
1815; the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars ends
1815; the German Confederation is formed
1840; the People's Revolution starts
1840; the German Confederation collapses
1840; the German Republic is formed
1842, the People's Revolution ends
1843; the German Republic acquires colonies
1845; the German Republic's colonies are abandoned
1846; the Great Panic of 1846 happens
1848; the Great Revolution of 1848 happens

RP Sample: [[Either a link to a past post, or an example written right here.]]
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#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)[/spoiler]

Done with my application

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Tracian Empire
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Tracian Empire » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:35 pm

The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:
The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:WIP


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Full Nation Name : The Republic of Germany
Majority/Official Culture : German/Prussian/Bavarian
Territorial Core : Germany, Bohemia, Austria, rest of Poland
Territorial Claim : [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]] East Prussia, West Prussia, Pomerania, Slovenia, Alsace-Lorraine, Luxembourg, and Venito/Province of Venice
Capital City : Berlin
Population : 53.5 million

Government Type : [[Monarchy, Republic, etc.]] A Semi-Presidential Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]] Militant/Expansionist (like a really early version of fascism), getting rid of the Bohemians Poles and Franks so that German can repopulate thier lands
Government Focus : [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]] Military
Head of State : [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]] President Frederick von Hohenzollern (real life King Frederick Wilhelm IV of Prussia)
Head of Government : [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]] President Frederick von Hohenzollern
Government Description :The Government is soley led by the President. The Volksversammlung (People's Assembly), which has 200 members, makes up the laws, unless the President disagrees with the law a member has created. The President can dissolve the Assembly at anytime, call up reelections for members (even if they just got in Office) at anytime, declare War at anytime, and appoint family members as judges of the Volksgericht (People's Court) at any time. There's 3 Judges in the Volksgericht. The Elections for President is held every 5 years (except in times of War), with each President having unlimited terms.

Majority/State Religion : Protestantism
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]] Socialist
Major Production : firearms, agricultural tools, agricultural products, raw iron
Economic Description : Germany's economic powerhouse, the Rhineland, is the heart of German industry. It holds most of Germany's iron production, making it have Germany's biggest metal works. But, most of Germany is still agricultural, primarily in Bavaria and Bohemia. Since the creation of the Republic, the GDP of Germany has grown from 13.1 billion in 1840 to 15.7 billion, which is kinda impressive, considering the Great Revolution of 1848, the Great Panic of 1846, and the People's Revolution of 1840. The German economy is primarily focused on industry, on Armaments.


Tech Group : [Read "Centers of Modernization," European, Oriental, Mesoamerican, N/A (default is N/A)]

Army Description : [[Describe your nation's army in as much detail as you can]] [spoiler]The Volksarmee (People's Army) was first created in 1839, 1 year before the Republic was formed. It was basically a small militia of Prussia. In 1840, the leader of the German Confederal Frankfurt Parliament saw that Germany was on the verge of collapse, especially when King Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia died in early June of that year. He declared that he sees a dark future if Austria rules all of Germany, or, if Germany collapses, making it easier for neighbors to conquer German lands, especially the Franks and Poland. Most Parliament members were in shock by the speech. The next day, the leader of the Frankfurt Parliament decided that it was time for Germany to officially unify as an actual country. He spoke about a more unified Germany. He said that 'our lands and countrymen will prosper, with every generation there-after.'. He then declared, as it known as, the Formal Act of Unification, which every Parliament member must vote yes or no for an actual Unified Germany. The voting process took nearly a week. Out of 583 members of Parliament, 419 voted for "yes". The Austrians thought that this was an act of War by the members who voted "yes". The German Confederation collapsed into 2 nations, the German Republic (led by Prussia), and the Empire of the Germans (led by Austria). The German Republic, controlling most of Northern Germany, with the exception of Hanover, quickly got men into it's Arms, 38,000 in the first week. The President, King Friedrich Wilhelm IV of Prussia, called it the Volksarmee, after the last unit created by the late Friedrich Wilhelm III. In the Empire, it was having trouble getting men, especially in Austria. But it had one major advantage over the Republic, the Kingdom of Hanover was in the Empire. The Kaiserliche Armee (The Imperial Army) only got 20,000 in the first month. On September 19, 1840, the Volksarmee and the Kaiserliche Armee had it's first stand off, in the city of Stade, near the Hanoverian-Prussian border. The Volksarmee were confindent, with strong morale, with 42,000 soldiers, opposing 34,000 poorly-prepared soldiers of the Kaiserliche Armee. The battle, a week long, was won by the Volksarmee, only suffering 6,000 casualties, with the Kaiserliche Armee suffering 11,000 casualties. The War went on until early 1842 when the Empire surrendered after the 3rd Siege of Vienna. The War costed over 200,00 casualties, with the old Kaiserliche Armee getting over 109,000 casualties. Towns and cities were devastated from the War. President Friedrich decided to release most of the Volksarmee for civil services, basically rebuilding cities. Within 1.5 years, the Republic was done rebuilding itself from the War.
The Volksarmee is basically the sole protector of the German Republic. It has 800,000 units, along with 300,000 reserves. Each man is equipped with the 1835 Neue Korps-Jägerbüchse, a saber, 300 rounds of ammo, a canteen, 2 days worth of food, and a shovel. The Infantry Uniform is Navy Blue, with Gold stripes going horizontal on the back. 10 Brass buttons lined up the chest of the Uniform, each having to be polished. The Cavalry Uniform is Light Blue with Black Stripes going vertical on the sides, with 8 Brass buttons lined up the chest for the Uniform. The Hat for the entire Military is the Pickelhaube. The Volkskavallerie (People's Cavalry) is made up of former Aristocrats, mainly from Prussia. The Cavalry has 40,000 active units and 60,000 reserves. Each man is equipped with the British New Land Pattern Cavalry Pistol ( Napoleonic Wars), a 1811 Kavalleriebüchse, a saber, 200 rounds of ammo, a canteen, and a days worth of food. Every man in the Volksarmee has had at least 5 years in the military, with extremely heavy drilling. Every man in the Volkskavallerie has had at least 5 years experience with horses. Basically, the military is drilled alot so that nothing can fail, and that the units can do it alone during the night.
Army Weakness : Can't travel as quick as other nation's units, get tired easily, too confident, outdated weaponry
Naval Description : [[Describe your nation's navy in as much detail as you can]] The Volksmarine (People's Navy) is seen as a menace to other countries. The Navy is primarily based in the North Sea and the Baltic Sea, keeping a close eye on it's enemies, the Teutonics and the Franks. The Navy has 80 ships, with 68 of them being made of wood. The 12 ships, made of metal, are small Ironclad prototypes, inspired by Britain's gunboat, the Nemesis. The Navy has 34,440 regular sailors and 65,560 reserve sailors. After the Republic was done rebuilding itself from the People's Revolution, it tried out getting some Colonies in Brazil and India, but failed, proving the Volksmarine to be not as strong as the navy of the Dutch and the Iberian Navy. Since the failed attempt at getting Colonies, the Navy has gotten stronger, training more sailors, building more ships, and attempting to build a U-Boat prototype (which failed countless times).
Naval Weakness : Ships not reliable for combat, not disciplined as well, little courage
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]] The Volksarmee is organized by amount of manpower in each group. The groups: Squads, Companies, Regiments, Battalions, Divisions, Armies, Grand Armies.
Squads have 15 men
Companies have 5-7 squads (75-105 men)
Regiments have 3 Companies (225-315 men)
Battalions have 10-14 Regiments (2,250-3,150 men)
Divisions have 4-6 Battalions (9,000-18,900 men)
Armies have 2-4 Divisions (18,000-75,600 men)
Grand Armies have 2-3 Armies (36,000-226,800)
The Strongest Grand Army is the Presidential Guards, at a massive 226,800 strong. It's the most Elite of the Grand Armies, but it's rarely used. Thus, making the Presidential Guards weaker then usual. Because of it's weakness, soldiers from regular Grand Armies are switched with a soldier of the Presidential Guard, wasting valuable coal and wood (on trains) from transporting the soldiers. Most Grand Armies have 72,000-108,000 soldiers. There's actually 10 Grand Armies in the Volksarmee. The Volksmarine is fairly similar.
Squads have 10 men
Companies have 8-9 squads (80-90 men)
Platoons have 4-5 companies (320-450 men)

The German Republic actually 2 Militaries. We were just talking about the first one, which is controlled by the Volksversammlung. The second military is the Präsidentenarmee (Presidential Army). This military has 10,000 soldiers and 30,000 reserves, and is controlled by the President himself.

Both Militaries combined has 1,340,000 men in its Arms.

National Goals : Reunite all Historical German lands under one banner
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]] Former grumbling Austrian leaders have formed Secession groups in the Republic, primarily focusing on Southern Germany and Austria. The Government has some corruption, making 11% of the population (5.8 million) restless with the Government. The Bohemians getting tired of high taxes (on Non-Germans).
National Figures of Interest : King Frederick the Great of Prussia, Duke Albert I of Prussia, Emperor Otto I the Great of the HRE
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]Have the Military the best in Europe, retry at having colonies, make Poland and the Teutonic Order bow down to the German Republic, conquer former German lands
Rival: the Teutonic Order, Poland

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]
962; King Otto of the Kingdom of Germany conquers the Kingdom of Italy, thus creating the Holy Roman Empire
1356; the Golden Bull is introduced by Emperor Karl IV and the Imperial Diet, making the position of Emperor an Elective office
1440; Emperor Friedrich III is crowned, the first Habsburg Emperor
1517; Martin Luther introduces his 96 points, starting the Reformation
1525; the German Peasants' War starts
1525; Prussia is formed as a puppet of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
1526; the German Peasants' War ends
1568; the 80 Years War starts
1618; the 30 Years War starts
1648; the 30 Years War and the 80 Years War ends, losing most non-German lands
1700; the Great Northern War starts
1701; Prussia becomes a Kingdom
1721; the Great Northern War ends
1740; King Friedrich the Great is crowned King of Prussia
1789; the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars start
1806; the HRE collapses
1815; the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars ends
1815; the German Confederation is formed
1840; the People's Revolution starts
1840; the German Confederation collapses
1840; the German Republic is formed
1842, the People's Revolution ends
1843; the German Republic acquires colonies
1845; the German Republic's colonies are abandoned
1846; the Great Panic of 1846 happens
1848; the Great Revolution of 1848 happens

RP Sample: [[Either a link to a past post, or an example written right here.]]
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=426159&p=32740546#p32740546

#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)[/spoiler]

Done with my application

Please delete all the brackets, we will review it after that.
I'm a Romanian, a vampire, an anime enthusiast and a roleplayer.
Hello there! I am Tracian Empire! You can call me Tracian, Thrace, Thracian, Thracr, Thracc or whatever you want. Really.

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The Brand New Salvatagard Republic
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Postby The Brand New Salvatagard Republic » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:48 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:Done with my application

Please delete all the brackets, we will review it after that.

Alright.

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Postby The Brand New Salvatagard Republic » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:52 pm

The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:WIP



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Full Nation Name : The Republic of Germany
Majority/Official Culture : German/Prussian/Bavarian
Territorial Core : Germany, Bohemia, Austria, rest of Poland
Territorial Claim : [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]] East Prussia, West Prussia, Pomerania, Slovenia, Alsace-Lorraine, Luxembourg, and Venito/Province of Venice
Capital City : Berlin
Population : 53.5 million

Government Type : A Semi-Presidential Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : Militant/Expansionist (like a really early version of fascism), getting rid of the Bohemians Poles and Franks so that German can repopulate thier lands
Government Focus : Military
Head of State : President Frederick von Hohenzollern (real life King Frederick Wilhelm IV of Prussia)
Head of Government : President Frederick von Hohenzollern
Government Description :The Government is soley led by the President. The Volksversammlung (People's Assembly), which has 200 members, makes up the laws, unless the President disagrees with the law a member has created. The President can dissolve the Assembly at anytime, call up reelections for members (even if they just got in Office) at anytime, declare War at anytime, and appoint family members as judges of the Volksgericht (People's Court) at any time. There's 3 Judges in the Volksgericht. The Elections for President is held every 5 years (except in times of War), with each President having unlimited terms.

Majority/State Religion : Protestantism
Religious Description :

Economic Ideologies : Socialist
Major Production : firearms, agricultural tools, agricultural products, raw iron
Economic Description : Germany's economic powerhouse, the Rhineland, is the heart of German industry. It holds most of Germany's iron production, making it have Germany's biggest metal works. But, most of Germany is still agricultural, primarily in Bavaria and Bohemia. Since the creation of the Republic, the GDP of Germany has grown from 13.1 billion in 1840 to 15.7 billion, which is kinda impressive, considering the Great Revolution of 1848, the Great Panic of 1846, and the People's Revolution of 1840. The German economy is primarily focused on industry, on Armaments.


Tech Group : European

Army Description :
The Volksarmee (People's Army) was first created in 1839, 1 year before the Republic was formed. It was basically a small militia of Prussia. In 1840, the leader of the German Confederal Frankfurt Parliament saw that Germany was on the verge of collapse, especially when King Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia died in early June of that year. He declared that he sees a dark future if Austria rules all of Germany, or, if Germany collapses, making it easier for neighbors to conquer German lands, especially the Franks and Poland. Most Parliament members were in shock by the speech. The next day, the leader of the Frankfurt Parliament decided that it was time for Germany to officially unify as an actual country. He spoke about a more unified Germany. He said that 'our lands and countrymen will prosper, with every generation there-after.'. He then declared, as it known as, the Formal Act of Unification, which every Parliament member must vote yes or no for an actual Unified Germany. The voting process took nearly a week. Out of 583 members of Parliament, 419 voted for "yes". The Austrians thought that this was an act of War by the members who voted "yes". The German Confederation collapsed into 2 nations, the German Republic (led by Prussia), and the Empire of the Germans (led by Austria). The German Republic, controlling most of Northern Germany, with the exception of Hanover, quickly got men into it's Arms, 38,000 in the first week. The President, King Friedrich Wilhelm IV of Prussia, called it the Volksarmee, after the last unit created by the late Friedrich Wilhelm III. In the Empire, it was having trouble getting men, especially in Austria. But it had one major advantage over the Republic, the Kingdom of Hanover was in the Empire. The Kaiserliche Armee (The Imperial Army) only got 20,000 in the first month. On September 19, 1840, the Volksarmee and the Kaiserliche Armee had it's first stand off, in the city of Stade, near the Hanoverian-Prussian border. The Volksarmee were confindent, with strong morale, with 42,000 soldiers, opposing 34,000 poorly-prepared soldiers of the Kaiserliche Armee. The battle, a week long, was won by the Volksarmee, only suffering 6,000 casualties, with the Kaiserliche Armee suffering 11,000 casualties. The War went on until early 1842 when the Empire surrendered after the 3rd Siege of Vienna. The War costed over 200,00 casualties, with the old Kaiserliche Armee getting over 109,000 casualties. Towns and cities were devastated from the War. President Friedrich decided to release most of the Volksarmee for civil services, basically rebuilding cities. Within 1.5 years, the Republic was done rebuilding itself from the War.
The Volksarmee is basically the sole protector of the German Republic. It has 800,000 units, along with 300,000 reserves. Each man is equipped with the 1835 Neue Korps-Jägerbüchse, a saber, 300 rounds of ammo, a canteen, 2 days worth of food, and a shovel. The Infantry Uniform is Navy Blue, with Gold stripes going horizontal on the back. 10 Brass buttons lined up the chest of the Uniform, each having to be polished. The Cavalry Uniform is Light Blue with Black Stripes going vertical on the sides, with 8 Brass buttons lined up the chest for the Uniform. The Hat for the entire Military is the Pickelhaube. The Volkskavallerie (People's Cavalry) is made up of former Aristocrats, mainly from Prussia. The Cavalry has 40,000 active units and 60,000 reserves. Each man is equipped with the British New Land Pattern Cavalry Pistol ( Napoleonic Wars), a 1811 Kavalleriebüchse, a saber, 200 rounds of ammo, a canteen, and a days worth of food. Every man in the Volksarmee has had at least 5 years in the military, with extremely heavy drilling. Every man in the Volkskavallerie has had at least 5 years experience with horses. Basically, the military is drilled alot so that nothing can fail, and that the units can do it alone during the night.

Army Weakness : Can't travel as quick as other nation's units, get tired easily, too confident, outdated weaponry

Naval Description : The Volksmarine (People's Navy) is seen as a menace to other countries. The Navy is primarily based in the North Sea and the Baltic Sea, keeping a close eye on it's enemies, the Teutonics and the Franks. The Navy has 80 ships, with 68 of them being made of wood. The 12 ships, made of metal, are small Ironclad prototypes, inspired by Britain's gunboat, the Nemesis. The Navy has 34,440 regular sailors and 65,560 reserve sailors. After the Republic was done rebuilding itself from the People's Revolution, it tried out getting some Colonies in Brazil and India, but failed, proving the Volksmarine to be not as strong as the navy of the Dutch and the Iberian Navy. Since the failed attempt at getting Colonies, the Navy has gotten stronger, training more sailors, building more ships, and attempting to build a U-Boat prototype (which failed countless times).

Naval Weakness : Ships not reliable for combat, not disciplined as well, little courage

Further Military Description : The Volksarmee is organized by amount of manpower in each group. The groups: Squads, Companies, Regiments, Battalions, Divisions, Armies, Grand Armies.
Squads have 15 men
Companies have 5-7 squads (75-105 men)
Regiments have 3 Companies (225-315 men)
Battalions have 10-14 Regiments (2,250-3,150 men)
Divisions have 4-6 Battalions (9,000-18,900 men)
Armies have 2-4 Divisions (18,000-75,600 men)
Grand Armies have 2-3 Armies (36,000-226,800)
The Strongest Grand Army is the Presidential Guards, at a massive 226,800 strong. It's the most Elite of the Grand Armies, but it's rarely used. Thus, making the Presidential Guards weaker then usual. Because of it's weakness, soldiers from regular Grand Armies are switched with a soldier of the Presidential Guard, wasting valuable coal and wood (on trains) from transporting the soldiers. Most Grand Armies have 72,000-108,000 soldiers. There's actually 10 Grand Armies in the Volksarmee. The Volksmarine is fairly similar.
Squads have 10 men
Companies have 8-9 squads (80-90 men)
Platoons have 4-5 companies (320-450 men)

The German Republic actually 2 Militaries. We were just talking about the first one, which is controlled by the Volksversammlung. The second military is the Präsidentenarmee (Presidential Army). This military has 10,000 soldiers and 30,000 reserves, and is controlled by the President himself.

Both Militaries combined has 1,340,000 men in its Arms.

National Goals : Reunite all Historical German lands under one banner
National Issues : Former grumbling Austrian leaders have formed Secession groups in the Republic, primarily focusing on Southern Germany and Austria. The Government has some corruption, making 11% of the population (5.8 million) restless with the Government. The Bohemians getting tired of high taxes (on Non-Germans).
National Figures of Interest : King Frederick the Great of Prussia, Duke Albert I of Prussia, Emperor Otto I the Great of the HRE
National Ambition/Aspirations : Have the best Military in Europe, retry at having colonies, make Poland and the Teutonic Order bow down to the German Republic, conquer former German lands
Rival: the Teutonic Order, Poland

History :
962; King Otto of the Kingdom of Germany conquers the Kingdom of Italy, thus creating the Holy Roman Empire
1356; the Golden Bull is introduced by Emperor Karl IV and the Imperial Diet, making the position of Emperor an Elective office
1440; Emperor Friedrich III is crowned, the first Habsburg Emperor
1517; Martin Luther introduces his 96 points, starting the Reformation
1525; the German Peasants' War starts
1525; Prussia is formed as a puppet of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
1526; the German Peasants' War ends
1568; the 80 Years War starts
1618; the 30 Years War starts
1648; the 30 Years War and the 80 Years War ends, losing most non-German lands
1700; the Great Northern War starts
1701; Prussia becomes a Kingdom
1721; the Great Northern War ends
1740; King Friedrich the Great is crowned King of Prussia
1789; the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars start
1806; the HRE collapses
1815; the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars ends
1815; the German Confederation is formed
1840; the People's Revolution starts
1840; the German Confederation collapses
1840; the German Republic is formed
1842, the People's Revolution ends
1843; the German Republic acquires colonies
1845; the German Republic's colonies are abandoned
1846; the Great Panic of 1846 happens
1848; the Great Revolution of 1848 happens

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Postby Tracian Empire » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:54 pm

The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Please delete all the brackets, we will review it after that.

Alright.

In your original post. No one is going to review a quote.
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The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:
The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:WIP


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Full Nation Name : The Republic of Germany
Majority/Official Culture : German/Prussian/Bavarian
Territorial Core : Germany, Bohemia, Austria, rest of Poland
Territorial Claim : [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]] East Prussia, West Prussia, Pomerania, Slovenia, Alsace-Lorraine, Luxembourg, and Venito/Province of Venice
Capital City : Berlin
Population : 53.5 million

Government Type : [[Monarchy, Republic, etc.]] A Semi-Presidential Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]] Militant/Expansionist (like a really early version of fascism), getting rid of the Bohemians Poles and Franks so that German can repopulate thier lands
Government Focus : [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]] Military
Head of State : [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]] President Frederick von Hohenzollern (real life King Frederick Wilhelm IV of Prussia)
Head of Government : [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]] President Frederick von Hohenzollern
Government Description :The Government is soley led by the President. The Volksversammlung (People's Assembly), which has 200 members, makes up the laws, unless the President disagrees with the law a member has created. The President can dissolve the Assembly at anytime, call up reelections for members (even if they just got in Office) at anytime, declare War at anytime, and appoint family members as judges of the Volksgericht (People's Court) at any time. There's 3 Judges in the Volksgericht. The Elections for President is held every 5 years (except in times of War), with each President having unlimited terms.

Majority/State Religion : Protestantism
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]] Socialist
Major Production : firearms, agricultural tools, agricultural products, raw iron
Economic Description : Germany's economic powerhouse, the Rhineland, is the heart of German industry. It holds most of Germany's iron production, making it have Germany's biggest metal works. But, most of Germany is still agricultural, primarily in Bavaria and Bohemia. Since the creation of the Republic, the GDP of Germany has grown from 13.1 billion in 1840 to 15.7 billion, which is kinda impressive, considering the Great Revolution of 1848, the Great Panic of 1846, and the People's Revolution of 1840. The German economy is primarily focused on industry, on Armaments.


Tech Group : [Read "Centers of Modernization," European, Oriental, Mesoamerican, N/A (default is N/A)]

Army Description : [[Describe your nation's army in as much detail as you can]] [spoiler]The Volksarmee (People's Army) was first created in 1839, 1 year before the Republic was formed. It was basically a small militia of Prussia. In 1840, the leader of the German Confederal Frankfurt Parliament saw that Germany was on the verge of collapse, especially when King Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia died in early June of that year. He declared that he sees a dark future if Austria rules all of Germany, or, if Germany collapses, making it easier for neighbors to conquer German lands, especially the Franks and Poland. Most Parliament members were in shock by the speech. The next day, the leader of the Frankfurt Parliament decided that it was time for Germany to officially unify as an actual country. He spoke about a more unified Germany. He said that 'our lands and countrymen will prosper, with every generation there-after.'. He then declared, as it known as, the Formal Act of Unification, which every Parliament member must vote yes or no for an actual Unified Germany. The voting process took nearly a week. Out of 583 members of Parliament, 419 voted for "yes". The Austrians thought that this was an act of War by the members who voted "yes". The German Confederation collapsed into 2 nations, the German Republic (led by Prussia), and the Empire of the Germans (led by Austria). The German Republic, controlling most of Northern Germany, with the exception of Hanover, quickly got men into it's Arms, 38,000 in the first week. The President, King Friedrich Wilhelm IV of Prussia, called it the Volksarmee, after the last unit created by the late Friedrich Wilhelm III. In the Empire, it was having trouble getting men, especially in Austria. But it had one major advantage over the Republic, the Kingdom of Hanover was in the Empire. The Kaiserliche Armee (The Imperial Army) only got 20,000 in the first month. On September 19, 1840, the Volksarmee and the Kaiserliche Armee had it's first stand off, in the city of Stade, near the Hanoverian-Prussian border. The Volksarmee were confindent, with strong morale, with 42,000 soldiers, opposing 34,000 poorly-prepared soldiers of the Kaiserliche Armee. The battle, a week long, was won by the Volksarmee, only suffering 6,000 casualties, with the Kaiserliche Armee suffering 11,000 casualties. The War went on until early 1842 when the Empire surrendered after the 3rd Siege of Vienna. The War costed over 200,00 casualties, with the old Kaiserliche Armee getting over 109,000 casualties. Towns and cities were devastated from the War. President Friedrich decided to release most of the Volksarmee for civil services, basically rebuilding cities. Within 1.5 years, the Republic was done rebuilding itself from the War.
The Volksarmee is basically the sole protector of the German Republic. It has 800,000 units, along with 300,000 reserves. Each man is equipped with the 1835 Neue Korps-Jägerbüchse, a saber, 300 rounds of ammo, a canteen, 2 days worth of food, and a shovel. The Infantry Uniform is Navy Blue, with Gold stripes going horizontal on the back. 10 Brass buttons lined up the chest of the Uniform, each having to be polished. The Cavalry Uniform is Light Blue with Black Stripes going vertical on the sides, with 8 Brass buttons lined up the chest for the Uniform. The Hat for the entire Military is the Pickelhaube. The Volkskavallerie (People's Cavalry) is made up of former Aristocrats, mainly from Prussia. The Cavalry has 40,000 active units and 60,000 reserves. Each man is equipped with the British New Land Pattern Cavalry Pistol ( Napoleonic Wars), a 1811 Kavalleriebüchse, a saber, 200 rounds of ammo, a canteen, and a days worth of food. Every man in the Volksarmee has had at least 5 years in the military, with extremely heavy drilling. Every man in the Volkskavallerie has had at least 5 years experience with horses. Basically, the military is drilled alot so that nothing can fail, and that the units can do it alone during the night.
Army Weakness : Can't travel as quick as other nation's units, get tired easily, too confident, outdated weaponry
Naval Description : [[Describe your nation's navy in as much detail as you can]] The Volksmarine (People's Navy) is seen as a menace to other countries. The Navy is primarily based in the North Sea and the Baltic Sea, keeping a close eye on it's enemies, the Teutonics and the Franks. The Navy has 80 ships, with 68 of them being made of wood. The 12 ships, made of metal, are small Ironclad prototypes, inspired by Britain's gunboat, the Nemesis. The Navy has 34,440 regular sailors and 65,560 reserve sailors. After the Republic was done rebuilding itself from the People's Revolution, it tried out getting some Colonies in Brazil and India, but failed, proving the Volksmarine to be not as strong as the navy of the Dutch and the Iberian Navy. Since the failed attempt at getting Colonies, the Navy has gotten stronger, training more sailors, building more ships, and attempting to build a U-Boat prototype (which failed countless times).
Naval Weakness : Ships not reliable for combat, not disciplined as well, little courage
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]] The Volksarmee is organized by amount of manpower in each group. The groups: Squads, Companies, Regiments, Battalions, Divisions, Armies, Grand Armies.
Squads have 15 men
Companies have 5-7 squads (75-105 men)
Regiments have 3 Companies (225-315 men)
Battalions have 10-14 Regiments (2,250-3,150 men)
Divisions have 4-6 Battalions (9,000-18,900 men)
Armies have 2-4 Divisions (18,000-75,600 men)
Grand Armies have 2-3 Armies (36,000-226,800)
The Strongest Grand Army is the Presidential Guards, at a massive 226,800 strong. It's the most Elite of the Grand Armies, but it's rarely used. Thus, making the Presidential Guards weaker then usual. Because of it's weakness, soldiers from regular Grand Armies are switched with a soldier of the Presidential Guard, wasting valuable coal and wood (on trains) from transporting the soldiers. Most Grand Armies have 72,000-108,000 soldiers. There's actually 10 Grand Armies in the Volksarmee. The Volksmarine is fairly similar.
Squads have 10 men
Companies have 8-9 squads (80-90 men)
Platoons have 4-5 companies (320-450 men)

The German Republic actually 2 Militaries. We were just talking about the first one, which is controlled by the Volksversammlung. The second military is the Präsidentenarmee (Presidential Army). This military has 10,000 soldiers and 30,000 reserves, and is controlled by the President himself.

Both Militaries combined has 1,340,000 men in its Arms.

National Goals : Reunite all Historical German lands under one banner
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]] Former grumbling Austrian leaders have formed Secession groups in the Republic, primarily focusing on Southern Germany and Austria. The Government has some corruption, making 11% of the population (5.8 million) restless with the Government. The Bohemians getting tired of high taxes (on Non-Germans).
National Figures of Interest : King Frederick the Great of Prussia, Duke Albert I of Prussia, Emperor Otto I the Great of the HRE
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]Have the Military the best in Europe, retry at having colonies, make Poland and the Teutonic Order bow down to the German Republic, conquer former German lands
Rival: the Teutonic Order, Poland

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]
962; King Otto of the Kingdom of Germany conquers the Kingdom of Italy, thus creating the Holy Roman Empire
1356; the Golden Bull is introduced by Emperor Karl IV and the Imperial Diet, making the position of Emperor an Elective office
1440; Emperor Friedrich III is crowned, the first Habsburg Emperor
1517; Martin Luther introduces his 96 points, starting the Reformation
1525; the German Peasants' War starts
1525; Prussia is formed as a puppet of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
1526; the German Peasants' War ends
1568; the 80 Years War starts
1618; the 30 Years War starts
1648; the 30 Years War and the 80 Years War ends, losing most non-German lands
1700; the Great Northern War starts
1701; Prussia becomes a Kingdom
1721; the Great Northern War ends
1740; King Friedrich the Great is crowned King of Prussia
1789; the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars start
1806; the HRE collapses
1815; the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars ends
1815; the German Confederation is formed
1840; the People's Revolution starts
1840; the German Confederation collapses
1840; the German Republic is formed
1842, the People's Revolution ends
1843; the German Republic acquires colonies
1845; the German Republic's colonies are abandoned
1846; the Great Panic of 1846 happens
1848; the Great Revolution of 1848 happens

RP Sample: [[Either a link to a past post, or an example written right here.]]
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#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)[/spoiler]

Done with my application

You do realize there never was any Prussia? Like, no Kingdom of Prussia nor a Commonwealth vassal Prussia?

And also, I don't think you can just say in your history that you conquered Italy without asking Italy first.

And you also can't just give the French a revolution, especcially since we have no french to begin with.

And did you talk with the players of Benelux and Iberia wether or not they had their 80 years war?
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Postby Sveya » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:12 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:
The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:Done with my application

You do realize there never was any Prussia? Like, no Kingdom of Prussia nor a Commonwealth vassal Prussia?

And also, I don't think you can just say in your history that you conquered Italy without asking Italy first.

And you also can't just give the French a revolution, especcially since we have no french to begin with.

And did you talk with the players of Benelux and Iberia wether or not they had their 80 years war?


Also, as there is not one but really two continuations of the Roman Empire, the basis for the Holy Roman Empire as it existed isn't present within our timeline. I don't want to speak out of turn, but I don't think this application will be accepted. The OP Board seems to like a higher standard than this, especially for a nation as powerful as Germany.

That said, I'm sad we have not seen any more of the Britain or Brazilian applicants. I was looking forward to having some immediate neighbours. :(

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Postby The Brand New Salvatagard Republic » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:53 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:
The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:Done with my application

You do realize there never was any Prussia? Like, no Kingdom of Prussia nor a Commonwealth vassal Prussia?

And also, I don't think you can just say in your history that you conquered Italy without asking Italy first.

And you also can't just give the French a revolution, especcially since we have no french to begin with.

And did you talk with the players of Benelux and Iberia wether or not they had their 80 years war?

*Facepalm*

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Postby The Brand New Salvatagard Republic » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:53 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:Alright.

In your original post. No one is going to review a quote.

I did.

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Postby The Traansval » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:42 pm

Oscalantine wrote:Posted! This took WAAAAy too long... I will get better at this once I get used to the posting style again.

At any rate... I see some TGs and some discord stuff... I guess back to OPing business ^^;;;

Un yeah; you expect to just get away with literally blockading a nation your not at war with? A SOVERIGN nation?

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Postby The Traansval » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:52 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:
The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:Done with my application

You do realize there never was any Prussia? Like, no Kingdom of Prussia nor a Commonwealth vassal Prussia?

And also, I don't think you can just say in your history that you conquered Italy without asking Italy first.

And you also can't just give the French a revolution, especcially since we have no french to begin with.

And did you talk with the players of Benelux and Iberia wether or not they had their 80 years war?

In my history I worked with the Franks to replace the Eighty Years War with a
New "Forty Years War", which was the Low Countries rebellion against Frankish Rule, basically substituting the Franks for Hapsburg Spain.

Anyway, to throw my lot in. I see a lot of potential in this app, but I would wish he would spend as much time on his history as he did his armed forces description.

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Postby Oscalantine » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:15 pm

The Traansval wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:Posted! This took WAAAAy too long... I will get better at this once I get used to the posting style again.

At any rate... I see some TGs and some discord stuff... I guess back to OPing business ^^;;;

Un yeah; you expect to just get away with literally blockading a nation your not at war with? A SOVERIGN nation?


Three things about that:

Just as european nations think very little of what orients think, any nation that has lands in Asia without explicit permission from Korea or any other Asian powers korea thinks very little of. They call them "barbarians" for a reason when any other speeches are otherwise very formal.

There really is no legal boundaries surrounding a blockade. It is just one-sided declaration... most likely to happen during war, but not always. Even that (complete defition of blockade) is technically not true on what I am intending because the ships are technically being stopped outside the borders. While I hesitate to say that this is blockade in its formal definiton, I couldnt think of a better name for it, hence why it is there. Calling a formal definition of blockade would mean that I am blcoking entire Scandinavia, which is false, as I am blocking trades coming into Java from Korean waters... well, what Koreans think of Korean waters. Kind of like what rest of the world is doing with IRL North Korea: we are going through and searching Scandenavian ships destined to Java bearing any supplies detailing construction. Similar things happened between France and US I believe during the rule of Napoleon, where US ships bound for Britain was intercepted and seized. At the very least, Koreans are just sending them to the other direction, not drafting the sailors and seizing the ship.

Even that is actually not very well enforced due to actions of the Viceroy, who is helping to mitigate actions by Ministry of War as much as possible. In actuality, very little would be happening to Scandenavian ships because of this "blockade," and it is the reason why admiral is furious at the Viceroy at the beginning of the post.
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Postby The Traansval » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:22 pm

Oscalantine wrote:
The Traansval wrote:Un yeah; you expect to just get away with literally blockading a nation your not at war with? A SOVERIGN nation?


Three things about that:

Just as european nations think very little of what orients think, any nation that has lands in Asia without explicit permission from Korea or any other Asian powers korea thinks very little of. They call them "barbarians" for a reason when any other speeches are otherwise very formal.

There really is no legal boundaries surrounding a blockade. It is just one-sided declaration... most likely to happen during war, but not always. Even that (complete defition of blockade) is technically not true on what I am intending because the ships are technically being stopped outside the borders. While I hesitate to say that this is blockade in its formal definiton, I couldnt think of a better name for it, hence why it is there. Calling a formal definition of blockade would mean that I am blcoking entire Scandinavia, which is false, as I am blocking trades coming into Java from Korean waters... well, what Koreans think of Korean waters. Kind of like what rest of the world is doing with IRL North Korea: we are going through and searching Scandenavian ships destined to Java bearing any supplies detailing construction. Similar things happened between France and US I believe during the rule of Napoleon, where US ships bound for Britain was intercepted and seized. At the very least, Koreans are just sending them to the other direction, not drafting the sailors and seizing the ship.

Even that is actually not very well enforced due to actions of the Viceroy, who is helping to mitigate actions by Ministry of War as much as possible. In actuality, very little would be happening to Scandenavian ships because of this "blockade," and it is the reason why admiral is furious at the Viceroy at the beginning of the post.

Still, a the majority of the ships that are being searched are of Western origin. As you stated, a Similair event happened with the US, and they went to war over it. I highly doubt that Scandinavia is going to allow what would be perceived as inferior Orientals to just have free reign searching Scandinavian ships. I, of course, don't speak for him, but I know that if this happened to, say, France or Spain in 1850 it would be massive.

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Postby Oscalantine » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:28 pm

The Traansval wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:
Three things about that:

Just as european nations think very little of what orients think, any nation that has lands in Asia without explicit permission from Korea or any other Asian powers korea thinks very little of. They call them "barbarians" for a reason when any other speeches are otherwise very formal.

There really is no legal boundaries surrounding a blockade. It is just one-sided declaration... most likely to happen during war, but not always. Even that (complete defition of blockade) is technically not true on what I am intending because the ships are technically being stopped outside the borders. While I hesitate to say that this is blockade in its formal definiton, I couldnt think of a better name for it, hence why it is there. Calling a formal definition of blockade would mean that I am blcoking entire Scandinavia, which is false, as I am blocking trades coming into Java from Korean waters... well, what Koreans think of Korean waters. Kind of like what rest of the world is doing with IRL North Korea: we are going through and searching Scandenavian ships destined to Java bearing any supplies detailing construction. Similar things happened between France and US I believe during the rule of Napoleon, where US ships bound for Britain was intercepted and seized. At the very least, Koreans are just sending them to the other direction, not drafting the sailors and seizing the ship.

Even that is actually not very well enforced due to actions of the Viceroy, who is helping to mitigate actions by Ministry of War as much as possible. In actuality, very little would be happening to Scandenavian ships because of this "blockade," and it is the reason why admiral is furious at the Viceroy at the beginning of the post.

Still, a the majority of the ships that are being searched are of Western origin. As you stated, a Similair event happened with the US, and they went to war over it. I highly doubt that Scandinavia is going to allow what would be perceived as inferior Orientals to just have free reign searching Scandinavian ships. I, of course, don't speak for him, but I know that if this happened to, say, France or Spain in 1850 it would be massive.


False. If you felt that way, most likely I need to edit my post in first availability.

The search isnt happening because viceroy is preventing it. He is purposefully sending out korean merchants to intercept korean imperial navy before the navy can search Scandenavian ships. I would say unlucky 10% are being searched, but that is probably being compensated by korean blockade runners who are permitted by the viceroy to run the blockade and provide supplies directly to java.

The entire post to Ple was to incite action, not declaration of war, which is actually something that Koreans dont want until 1) alliance with Japan is completed, 2) its viceroy is off its back for what he sees as unjust action towards the colonies' bottom line, and 3) until a formal decree again asking java to submit to Korea is given, providing casus beli for Koreans.

Most likely this blockade will resolve once the delegation to Rome is sent, at which time the Imperial navy will withdraw under direct orders from the Emperor and formal apology will be made to java (not Scandinavian) government, providing precedence that Korea will only speak with Java and not barbarians from the west.

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Postby Plzen » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:28 pm

The Traansval wrote:Un yeah; you expect to just get away with literally blockading a nation your not at war with? A SOVERIGN nation?

Actually, yes.

Java doesn't care about the forts. If Korea intercepts the supplies needed to build them, they're going to shrug and move on. As long as commercial traffic isn't affected, Java will pretend that everything is dandy and nothing is happening. Batavia makes its money, a lot of money, connecting Europe to Asia, and that means that the Batavian authorities (which basically are the Javan authorities at this point) value their relationship with the Oriental powers.

Copenhagen will be deeply offended about the blockade, but who cares what they think? They're a month of travel away, the North Sea Fleet is tied up fighting the Teutonic Order, the Scandinavian Army deployed along the Baltic coast, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is busy negotiating an alliance and trying to establish contact with Iberia. The best that they can do is demand that Java do something about the problem, at which point Java will issue a note of diplomatic protest, and if that gets ignored, oh well they tried.

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Postby Tracian Empire » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:29 am

The Brand New Salvatagard Republic wrote:Germany

  • In regards to your territorial claims, you are of course, more than free to claim anything, but you should know that Teutonic Prussia has never been a proper part of Germany, and that Slovenia and Veneto have never been parts of the Habsburg Monarchy.
  • How do you explain your population? The German Confederation area reached 34,000,000 by 1865 in real life. Right now, you'd be in the middle of the transition. You need some well explained historical changes in order to get more than that.
  • How are you a Semi-Presidential Republic? That's a dictatorship as far as I can tell. Your President has unlimited powers, your Parliament is symbolic, you have unlimited terms for your President, and nepotism is practiced.
  • Why is a von Hohenzollern your President? Wouldn't the German Republican backlash have been directed at big noble families like the Hohenzollerns and the Habsburgs?
  • How are you socialist in terms of economy? You give no explanation for it, but European socialism was only now starting to appear. The First International only appeared in 1864, and the existence of the Paris Commune in this timeline is debatable, but how did the entire Germany switch to socialism?
  • This is on the OP board, but the Rhineland might belong to Francia, the situation is still discussed.
  • Your economic description is a mess. Bohemia was also historically and industrial powerhouse, and I highly doubt that your agricultural center would be in the mountainous Bavaria. The GDP explanation is confusing, as it doesn't even provide a currency, and let's not even speak about how the modern concept of GDP was only developed in 1934.
  • Your army description is slightly confusing. Historically wise, the creation of the Volksarmee seems unlikely considering the fact that Brandenburg would already have a competent army, and that the German states already had a militia with tradition, the Landwehr. Moving on to the entire historical situation around it, it's a little difficult to understand. I'm not sure if the German Confederation ever had an actual parliament, or if you're trying to use revolutionary Frankfurter Nationalversammlung. But regardless, what follows next is slightly unrealistic. The Parliament would have never voted the unification of Germany like that, especially considering the heavy opposition of Austria. If it would have voted it, then the Confederation would have basically collapsed, not into two nations, but into all monarchies against the Republicans, into unionists against reactionaries, a civil mess basically. Now, I believe that you should also explain how the King of Brandenburg could have ended up as the German Republic's president, while also keeping his title and number. The description of the war is also pretty confusing, and I'd say, a little unrealistic just as the apparent recovery of your Germany after such a civil conflict in less than two years.
  • Your military description itself is also rather confusing, we would require some more details. What do you mean by the fact that your troops can't travel as quick as the units of other nations? Is that because of your infrastructure? As for them getting tired easy, is it related to their quality? Or to the extensive drilling? Your naval description could also use some more details. It seems a little too large considering Germany's coast and traditional orientation towards the army, but perhaps it could be explained by the Scandinavian and Dutch naval power. You should give us more details about your colonial adventure also. But in regards with its weakness, how can your navy be a menace if it's weaker than that of the Netherlands and Iberia, and how can it be menacing if its ships are not reliable for combat, if your sailors are not disciplined, and if they lack courage?
  • Your national issues are also not enough. If you only created a unified Germany 1840, you are still going to have many restless people. Monarchists, reactionary forces, separatists, German states, not only Austria, wishing for independence, actual republicans and liberals. Corruption will have bigger effects, and the Bohemians, or Czechs, would probably have a full movement that wishes to become independent by now.
  • As highlighted by certain players, most of your history ignores the histories of your neighbors, histories which have precedence over your app. Some paradoxes are allowed if they are unavoidable, but your history completely ignores your neighbors and messes with their history and with the history of Europe as a whole. You can discuss and negotiate history with your neighbors of course, but right now, your history won't work. Otto could have never conquered Italy as Italy has been the core of the Western Roman Empire ever since the 500's. For the same reason, while the creation of an empire in the German region is not impossible, it could have not been called the Holy Roman Empire, as Rome and the Pope were both in the WRE. Prussia was never a part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, as the Teutonic Knights have continued to exist. The Eighty Years War wouldn't have even concerned the HRE-equivalent as a whole, as if it would have existed, it would have been a conflict between Iberia and the Netherlands, and possibly Francia and Britain. The way you end those wars also seems to imply that it was the moment when the HRE-equivalent lost control over some non-German lands, without specifying which those lands were. Also because of the Teutons, Prussia could have never become a Kingdom, and and as I've told you before you started working on your app, Friedrich der Große could have never been King of Prussia. Of Brandenburg, maybe. The whole French Revolution and Napleonic Wars is also problematic.

    But perhaps my main complaint with your history is the final part of it, the part were you became a unitary republic, because that is not sufficiently explained. You give us no details about what happened. The German Confederation was a confederation of multiple other sovereign states. Should we assume that the revolution simply took over them all and that German nationalism prevailed? How did this happen, where did the revolution start, what were its goals, how did it win? How did it do something that failed in real life? The whole Germany acquiring colonies and then losing them is also not explained, and you've added a Great Revolution and a Great Panic without explaining what they are. For another player like me, your history is generally confusing,and you can't just conquer other players without discussing it with them first.
  • And now, I usually don't touch this subject, but your app itself is poorly written. I perfectly understand that not everyone is good at writing in English, but you have to put a lot more effort into it. There are parts of your app where it's difficult for me to understand what's happening, there are mistakes, words are forgotten, punctuation is ignored, and so on. You just need a little bit more effort put into it.
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Oscalantine
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Postby Oscalantine » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:53 am

The Frozen Forest wrote:Full Nation Name : Empire of the Inca || Tawantinsuyu (Incan Empire)


This is what happens when the application is passed between OPs: it is forgotten in all times when it is basically accepted.

Our two resident OPs knowledgeable of the region has given this app a pass. Nova was particularly fascinated by your persistent desire to have Machu Picchu as centerpiece of your history, but said that your app is passable. Regardless, while he said that he can pick out the flaws, it was nothing to stop you from being accepted... to which the entire board decided to stop harassing you over little details XDDD

Long story short: ACCEPTED. For a long time, too. At least a good two days since we stopped talking about your app, and only NOW do I post this. I apologize for the slowdown.




On the note of slowdown... anyone who IS NOT accepted yet and has had their app in place for a long time... let me know. Odds are that the discussion ended and you were accepted, but because the BOARD decided on your acceptance that it was never finalized and put into OOC.

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Postby Oscalantine » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:01 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:Full Nation Name : Maritime Empire of Japan (大日本海国, Dai Nippon Kaikoku)


I had final look at it. I will update the master list accordingly... strange enough, I do recall accepting your application WAAAY in the past like in page 10.

At any rate, the edited history and sections updating from the original app was very good. I personally like added Korean elements: made me feel the love XDDD

At any rate, the application is ACCEPTED

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The Traansval
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Postby The Traansval » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:15 am

Plzen wrote:
The Traansval wrote:Un yeah; you expect to just get away with literally blockading a nation your not at war with? A SOVERIGN nation?

Actually, yes.

Java doesn't care about the forts. If Korea intercepts the supplies needed to build them, they're going to shrug and move on. As long as commercial traffic isn't affected, Java will pretend that everything is dandy and nothing is happening. Batavia makes its money, a lot of money, connecting Europe to Asia, and that means that the Batavian authorities (which basically are the Javan authorities at this point) value their relationship with the Oriental powers.

Copenhagen will be deeply offended about the blockade, but who cares what they think? They're a month of travel away, the North Sea Fleet is tied up fighting the Teutonic Order, the Scandinavian Army deployed along the Baltic coast, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is busy negotiating an alliance and trying to establish contact with Iberia. The best that they can do is demand that Java do something about the problem, at which point Java will issue a note of diplomatic protest, and if that gets ignored, oh well they tried.


Well, if it's any consolation the Dutch East Ibdies fleet is nearby if it's needed. And my colony can be used to smuggle supplies for your forts.

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Postby Shogunate of the Uzumaki Empire » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:12 am

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Full Nation Name :
Swiss Confederation
Schweizerische Eidgenossenschaft (German)
Confédération suisse (French)
Confederazione Svizzera (Italian)
Confederaziun svizra (Romansh)
Confoederatio Helvetica (Latin)

Majority/Official Culture : German
Territorial Core : Well you know.......Switzerland.
Territorial Claim : [[OPTIONAL]] [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]]
Capital City : Bern, Switzerland
Population : 2,392,740

Government Type : Federal Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : Pacifist, Democratic
Government Focus : To become as Neutral as possible but use force if necessary.
Head of State : Stefano Franscini
Head of Government : Stefano Franscini
Government Description : The Federal Council is the seven-member executive council which constitutes the federal government of the Swiss Confederation and serves as the collective executive head of government and state of Switzerland.

Majority/State Religion : [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]]
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : Capitalism
Major Production : Machinery, chemicals, textiles
Economic Description : Switzerland as a federal state was established in 1848. Before that time, the city-cantons of Zurich and Basel in particular began to develop economically based on industry and trade, while the rural regions of Switzerland remained poor and under-developed. While a workshop system had been in existence throughout the early modern period, the production of machines began in 1801 in St. Gallen, with the third generation of machines imported from Great Britain. But in Switzerland, hydraulic power was often used instead of steam-engines because of the country's topography while there are no significant deposits of coal. By 1814, hand weaving had been mostly replaced by the power loom. Both tourism and banking began to develop as an economic factor from about the same time.


Tech Group : European

Army Description : The land component of the Swiss Armed Forces originated from the cantonal troops of the Old Swiss Confederacy, called upon in cases of external threats by the Tagsatzung or by the canton in distress. In the federal treaty of 1815, the Tagsatzung prescribed cantonal troops to put a contingent of 2% of the population of each canton at the federation's disposition, amounting to a force of some 33,000 men. The cantonal armies were converted into the federal army (Bundesheer) with the constitution of 1848.
Army Weakness : The downside is that the Infantry troops are very weak towards Calvary which leads to a disadvantage of the Swiss Army.
Naval Description : N/A
Naval Weakness : N/A
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals : To become Neutral as possible or perhaps spread Swiss Nationalism. Also, we might even supply France and Italy with weapons depending on the situation.
National Issues : I don't think Switzerland don't have any issues at all.......
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]
Rival: None really to be honest.

History : Following a 27-day civil war in Switzerland, the Sonderbundskrieg, the Swiss Federal Constitution was passed on 12 September 1848. The constitution was heavily influenced by the US Constitution and the ideas of the French Revolution. The constitution establishes the Swiss Confederation, governed by a comparatively strong federal government, instead the model of a confederation of independent cantons bound by treaties.
RP Sample: I'm new to this one! ^>^

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Shogunate of the Uzumaki Empire
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