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by Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:31 pm
by Vassenor » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:32 pm
by Northern Davincia » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:36 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Bombadil » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:38 pm
by Jerzylvania » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:53 pm
Bombadil wrote:NK is yesterday's news.. come on people it's the Trump-Bannon show now..
Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.
Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... hael-wolff
Trump hits back..
“Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency,” Trump said in a statement released by the White House.
“When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating 17 candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... t-his-mind
I love that last line.. 'often'.. 'most talented'.. he really has to always big himself up with lies..
by Maineiacs » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:55 pm
by Vassenor » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:58 pm
Maineiacs wrote:Don't know if anyone's posted this:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/manafort-sue ... itics.html
Manafort's got a brass pair, I'll give him that. Anyone think this will work to derail the investigation?
by Bombadil » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:02 pm
Jerzylvania wrote:Bombadil wrote:NK is yesterday's news.. come on people it's the Trump-Bannon show now..
Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.
Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... hael-wolff
Trump hits back..
“Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency,” Trump said in a statement released by the White House.
“When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating 17 candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... t-his-mind
I love that last line.. 'often'.. 'most talented'.. he really has to always big himself up with lies..
I agree, it is the Trump-Bannon Show right now. Donnie's button tweet won't overshadow that, quite the contrary.
Then again, NSG does often NOT perfectly reflect the real world. Nobody'sprefectperfect.
by Maineiacs » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:03 pm
Vassenor wrote:Maineiacs wrote:Don't know if anyone's posted this:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/manafort-sue ... itics.html
Manafort's got a brass pair, I'll give him that. Anyone think this will work to derail the investigation?
Assuming it doesn't just get laughed out of court?
by Jerzylvania » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:07 pm
Bombadil wrote:Jerzylvania wrote:
I agree, it is the Trump-Bannon Show right now. Donnie's button tweet won't overshadow that, quite the contrary.
Then again, NSG does often NOT perfectly reflect the real world. Nobody'sprefectperfect.
'Big button' is kind of a 'covfefe' moment for me, this book, however, will be occupying the Don's time given it features plenty of attacks on him.. he cannot take that.
by Shofercia » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:13 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Millions of casualties and potential war with Russia and China, not to mention Seoul, and perhaps Tokyo, in ruins.
China isn't going to war with us because it would shatter their economy and Russia can just have 2,500 of our nukes aimed at it.Shofercia wrote:THAAD won't be able to defend all of Japan, and it's densely populated. You know that.
Clearly the solution is to build more
Conserative Morality wrote:ArUmdAUM wrote:Despite the eccentricity of totalitarian dictators (not unique to NK), the regime is certainly rational when it comes to their security. You're assuming that North Korea will always be the way it is and will never change, when this isn't the case.
The most ideal resolution to the conflict is Korean reunification and integration of North Korea into the world economy. The regime isn't going to last forever, and we have yet to see the results of Kim Jong-un increasingly liberalizing North Korea's economy. A larger middle class may demand greater openness and change a la South Korea and Taiwan, and integration into the world economy will demand greater openness as in China.
Or it could backslide again, as it did from the 70s onward, and get even worse. We're looking at a pretty fucking unique situation in NK. Few dictators have managed to create the totalitarian societies they desire, or, in Un's case, run them. States with much weaker controls on the population have managed to rule by force for hundreds of years - why is NK exempt from this possibility?
Dooom35796821595 wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Like Israel? Like India? Like Pakistan? Perhaps like Iran? It's one thing for Australia, a nation whose biggest threat is the Emu, to abandoned nuclear weapons. It's another thing for a Middle Eastern country to do that. Or North Korea. What if Saddam actually got nukes? Or Khadaffi? You think they'd still be invaded?
Nukes serve as a deterrent to invasion. Once Korea is unified - there's nothing to invade. Short of that, North Korea will continue to have nukes, and we'll continue to speak of potential war. Also, South Korea wasn't flowing in wealth in the 1950s. Would your country work hard for 70 years to double its size and prestige? I think it's a project worth pursuing.
I'd post a list of countries that don't have nukes, but I think that'd count as spam. But it's near 200.
Nukes are expensive, the only ones who can afford it are the UNSC 5 and nations with a severe need, like one surrounded by enemies (Israel) or to avoid constant border engadgements, (India & Pakistan)
No, most countries can't see 10 years into the future, yet alone 100. And you think the democratic nation of South Korea wants to double its voter base with a illiterate population of starving farmers who worship a political dynasty? Too many unknowns by half.
by Shofercia » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:21 pm
ArUmdAUM wrote:Janszoonia wrote:Yes and no.
Are missile defense programs in Japan?
Yes
Are they owned by Japan?
No
We need to work with Japan to repeal and replace article 9, which pretty much prevents them from having a military.
"We need to work with Japan to get rid of something their people want"
The US has been pushing Japan to get rid of Article 9 since the beginning of the Cold War, and countless Japanese PMs have been trying to get rid of it. However, it is very popular in Japan.
by Shofercia » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:22 pm
Bombadil wrote:NK is yesterday's news.. come on people it's the Trump-Bannon show now..
Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.
Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... hael-wolff
Trump hits back..
“Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency,” Trump said in a statement released by the White House.
“When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating 17 candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... t-his-mind
I love that last line.. 'often'.. 'most talented'.. he really has to always big himself up with lies..
by Collatis » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:25 pm
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republicanism, human rights, democratic socialism, Keynesianism,
EU, NATO, two-state solution, Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders
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death penalty, Marxism-Leninism, laissez faire, reaction, fascism,
antisemitism, isolationism, Republican Party, Donald Trump
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by Computer Lab » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:27 pm
by Shofercia » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:29 pm
by Petrasylvania » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:30 pm
by Petrasylvania » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:32 pm
by Jerzylvania » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:47 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:Donnie is going to eventually run out of space under the bus to throw people in. And he has turned the Presidency into a Jerry Springer marathon, which is insulting to Jerry Springer as he would be at least composed if not dignified as President unlike Trump.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:56 pm
by Corrian » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:58 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Trump approval rating slightly improving.
Still more then half the nation hates him though.Arlenton wrote:America gets greater with every thread!
Not really.
by Bombadil » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:04 pm
Corrian wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Trump approval rating slightly improving.
Still more then half the nation hates him though.
Not really.
Not sure why it would be approving, but huh. 40% is the highest he has had for a while.
It's amazing to me how much it fluctuates. How can it fluctuate from like 32% to 40%? There is really that many people who are like "Yeah, this is fine now", even if briefly?
Though daily tracker polls are weird. And overall trends seem to keep him at about 36% to 38% on average.
by Proctopeo » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:27 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Or maybe, you lost the pop vote in the election fair and square and you should let your ego go.
by Valrifell » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:34 pm
Corrian wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Trump approval rating slightly improving.
Still more then half the nation hates him though.
Not really.
Not sure why it would be approving, but huh. 40% is the highest he has had for a while.
It's amazing to me how much it fluctuates. How can it fluctuate from like 32% to 40%? There is really that many people who are like "Yeah, this is fine now", even if briefly?
Though daily tracker polls are weird. And overall trends seem to keep him at about 36% to 38% on average.
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