by Morgantown West Virginia » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:51 pm
by Morgantown West Virginia » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:06 pm
by Major-Tom » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:10 pm
by Morgantown West Virginia » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:13 pm
Major-Tom wrote:Despite all the speculation that the Senate might flip, I think that it will not. I would be elated if it did, but even with anti-Republican sentiment almost nationwide, the map is just not looking good for the Dems (See MO, IN, ND).
As for the House, I expect a wave and a potential Democratic takeover of the house. But these midterms are just a little less than a year away, so I could be totally and absolutely proven wrong in many ways.
by Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:17 pm
by Shofercia » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:39 pm
Major-Tom wrote:Despite all the speculation that the Senate might flip, I think that it will not. I would be elated if it did, but even with anti-Republican sentiment almost nationwide, the map is just not looking good for the Dems (See MO, IN, ND).
As for the House, I expect a wave and a potential Democratic takeover of the house. But these midterms are just a little less than a year away, so I could be totally and absolutely proven wrong in many ways.
by Somecoldwetislands » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:56 pm
by Xmara » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:15 pm
Major-Tom wrote:Despite all the speculation that the Senate might flip, I think that it will not. I would be elated if it did, but even with anti-Republican sentiment almost nationwide, the map is just not looking good for the Dems (See MO, IN, ND).
by Abraxim » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:57 pm
by San Lumen » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:57 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I can absolutely see the GOP gaining seats in the Senate, really not sure about the House because I don't pay a whole ton of attention to them but I'd probably have that lean R as well.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:04 pm
by Abraxim » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:07 pm
by Bakery Hill » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:10 pm
Abraxim wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yeah, I don't remember saying that.
Of course a liberal would resort to minor grammatical points over a substantive reply about the state of liberal outrage this past year and it's effects on moderate republicans. I went from blue dog democrat to alt right Republican without even changing any position or stance.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:18 pm
by Abraxim » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:19 pm
Bakery Hill wrote:Abraxim wrote:
Of course a liberal would resort to minor grammatical points over a substantive reply about the state of liberal outrage this past year and it's effects on moderate republicans. I went from blue dog democrat to alt right Republican without even changing any position or stance.
That's what emotional reactions can do.
by Bakery Hill » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:20 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Abraxim wrote:
Of course a liberal would resort to minor grammatical points over a substantive reply about the state of liberal outrage this past year and it's effects on moderate republicans.
Look, all I'm saying is don't say we all said or did a thing.
My point was that I'm getting tired of members of the center left being put in the same boat as SJWs.
Adding to that, I have seen liberal outrage being pointed at his abysmal tax plan, budget that takes money away from the CDC, his letting go of Net Neutrality, there attempted ditching of homeless vets, and rolling back policies that are keeping people alive.
The effects of the absurd outrage have sadly taken there toll on moderate republicans. And I want it to be known that the absurd outrage was something I did not support.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:27 pm
Abraxim wrote:Bakery Hill wrote:That's what emotional reactions can do.
I Agree. It is scary. Last year this time, I was so far left on the Republican scale, I considered becoming a democrat. Then the election happened, and the response was so nasty from the left, I never looked into it again. By inauguration, I regretted not voting for Trump, and by March, if message boards are any indication, one would have thought I am Hitler's long lost son by what people claim of me. Im just here thinking, not one of my positions have changed, so how did all this happen?
Truth is I don't want to be associated with that kind of behaviour. I'll take the few nutcases in my party over the entire progressive wing of the left any day, and let the chips fall where they may.
It is sad really, US Politics has devolved into the state it is in today.
Bakery Hill wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Look, all I'm saying is don't say we all said or did a thing.
My point was that I'm getting tired of members of the center left being put in the same boat as SJWs.
Adding to that, I have seen liberal outrage being pointed at his abysmal tax plan, budget that takes money away from the CDC, his letting go of Net Neutrality, there attempted ditching of homeless vets, and rolling back policies that are keeping people alive.
The effects of the absurd outrage have sadly taken there toll on moderate republicans. And I want it to be known that the absurd outrage was something I did not support.
alt right << good republicans << centre >> good democrats >> sjws
is that how you think politics works?
by Abraxim » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:29 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Abraxim wrote:
Of course a liberal would resort to minor grammatical points over a substantive reply about the state of liberal outrage this past year and it's effects on moderate republicans.
Look, all I'm saying is don't say we all said or did a thing.
My point was that I'm getting tired of members of the center left being put in the same boat as SJWs.
Adding to that, I have seen liberal outrage being pointed at his abysmal tax plan, budget that takes money away from the CDC, his letting go of Net Neutrality, there attempted ditching of homeless vets, and rolling back policies that are keeping people alive.
The effects of the absurd outrage have sadly taken there toll on moderate republicans. And I want it to be known that the absurd outrage was something I did not support.
by Bakery Hill » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:33 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Abraxim wrote:
I Agree. It is scary. Last year this time, I was so far left on the Republican scale, I considered becoming a democrat. Then the election happened, and the response was so nasty from the left, I never looked into it again. By inauguration, I regretted not voting for Trump, and by March, if message boards are any indication, one would have thought I am Hitler's long lost son by what people claim of me. Im just here thinking, not one of my positions have changed, so how did all this happen?
Truth is I don't want to be associated with that kind of behaviour. I'll take the few nutcases in my party over the entire progressive wing of the left any day, and let the chips fall where they may.
It is sad really, US Politics has devolved into the state it is in today.
I don't want to be associated with that kind of behavior ether.
That was why I got miffed that you said "All people on the left did X" when I wasn't doing that.
I'm sorry that I was an asshole to you.Bakery Hill wrote:alt right << good republicans << centre >> good democrats >> sjws
is that how you think politics works?
Center > democrats > republicans > SJW's > Alt right
by Abraxim » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:35 pm
alt right << good republicans << centre >> good democrats >> sjws
is that how you think politics works?
by Bakery Hill » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:37 pm
Abraxim wrote:alt right << good republicans << centre >> good democrats >> sjws
is that how you think politics works?
More like:
Libertarians - Trumpets - Neocons - centrists - The Democrats down the street - Progressives
Alt Righters and The Commie Antifa types are all on their own level.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:47 pm
Abraxim wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Look, all I'm saying is don't say we all said or did a thing.
My point was that I'm getting tired of members of the center left being put in the same boat as SJWs.
Adding to that, I have seen liberal outrage being pointed at his abysmal tax plan, budget that takes money away from the CDC, his letting go of Net Neutrality, there attempted ditching of homeless vets, and rolling back policies that are keeping people alive.
The effects of the absurd outrage have sadly taken there toll on moderate republicans. And I want it to be known that the absurd outrage was something I did not support.
Thanks. To this, I can reply.
I can agree there, the lumping of people together is bad for parties. A moderate Dem doesn't want to be lumped in with SJWs, any more than a Trump supporter wants to be lumped in with David Duke. Someone once told me a few months back, when trying to explain why I support Trump on some policies (Not all), they said I support Rape. I'm just like WTF?
Sadly, the more extreme elements of a party is what is televised, or you tubed about. Its easy to do, but really galvanizing. It is insane, really. And we all know these midterms are going to be hyped up too.
As my neighbor put it, Its time to pick your side. I've picked mine, but I disagree with that sentiment, there seems to be no middle ground left to stand on anymore, because then your disavowed by both sides.
by Bakery Hill » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:49 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Abraxim wrote:
Thanks. To this, I can reply.
I can agree there, the lumping of people together is bad for parties. A moderate Dem doesn't want to be lumped in with SJWs, any more than a Trump supporter wants to be lumped in with David Duke. Someone once told me a few months back, when trying to explain why I support Trump on some policies (Not all), they said I support Rape. I'm just like WTF?
Sadly, the more extreme elements of a party is what is televised, or you tubed about. Its easy to do, but really galvanizing. It is insane, really. And we all know these midterms are going to be hyped up too.
As my neighbor put it, Its time to pick your side. I've picked mine, but I disagree with that sentiment, there seems to be no middle ground left to stand on anymore, because then your disavowed by both sides.
Yes, I can agree with that.
Lumping people should not happen. I have no idea what that guy was talking about.
As for picking a side, I choose to remain center left. The disintegration of the center and other moderates drifting right or left is a bad thing beacuse extremism is bad.
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