by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:40 am
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Costa Fierro » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:29 am
by Gig em Aggies » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:49 am
by Thermodolia » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:55 am
Gig em Aggies wrote:Does he also know the Urban America would be screwed if it weren't for Rural America and their vast amounts of farm and ranch land? but seriously another poster coped together and idea similar to this and it was stupid very stupid same goes for this idea you have.
by Bakery Hill » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:01 am
Thermodolia wrote:Gig em Aggies wrote:Does he also know the Urban America would be screwed if it weren't for Rural America and their vast amounts of farm and ranch land? but seriously another poster coped together and idea similar to this and it was stupid very stupid same goes for this idea you have.
Or that both urban and rural America would be screwed over without the other. Farm land doesn't do you any good when you have nobody to sell your product to
by Thermodolia » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:03 am
Bakery Hill wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Or that both urban and rural America would be screwed over without the other. Farm land doesn't do you any good when you have nobody to sell your product to
Well one's more important than the other really. If the supply of manufactured goods, petrol etc. got cut off farmers would have to turn Amish and that would be pretty fucking annoying. But if food got cut off...
by Bakery Hill » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:04 am
Thermodolia wrote:Bakery Hill wrote:Well one's more important than the other really. If the supply of manufactured goods, petrol etc. got cut off farmers would have to turn Amish and that would be pretty fucking annoying. But if food got cut off...
I'm not saying that the rural Americans aren't important, they are, but they won't fare well on their own. Both sides need each other to survive. You can't cut off your nose just to spite your face and assume everything will be fine
by The Parkus Empire » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:33 am
by Sovaal » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:35 am
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/
So according to this, it's more so rural districts (than "red states") that voted Trump.
It talks about rural America being forgotten and ignored... so was Atlantic Canada, you wouldn't see them vote anyone like Trump.
Why, then, should rural districts be entitled to urban money after screwing over urban America? Is there any way to rearrange the USA so as to treat rural America as a new country and urban America as a collection of city-states?
by Petrolheadia » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:38 am
Thermodolia wrote:Gig em Aggies wrote:Does he also know the Urban America would be screwed if it weren't for Rural America and their vast amounts of farm and ranch land? but seriously another poster coped together and idea similar to this and it was stupid very stupid same goes for this idea you have.
Or that both urban and rural America would be screwed over without the other. Farm land doesn't do you any good when you have nobody to sell your product to
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:39 am
Bakery Hill wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Or that both urban and rural America would be screwed over without the other. Farm land doesn't do you any good when you have nobody to sell your product to
Well one's more important than the other really. If the supply of manufactured goods, petrol etc. got cut off farmers would have to turn Amish and that would be pretty fucking annoying. But if food got cut off...
Petrolheadia wrote:Also, many city-states would be militarily weak, with no space for proper bases.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by The Parkus Empire » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:44 am
Sovaal wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/
So according to this, it's more so rural districts (than "red states") that voted Trump.
It talks about rural America being forgotten and ignored... so was Atlantic Canada, you wouldn't see them vote anyone like Trump.
Why, then, should rural districts be entitled to urban money after screwing over urban America? Is there any way to rearrange the USA so as to treat rural America as a new country and urban America as a collection of city-states?
My fucking god. whay next, re-ensnare apartheid in South Africa? Anyway, it was just rural counties that voted for Trump, many industrial areas did as well. Anyway, is this a fucking surprise to anyone that rural areas across the country are fucking goddam more conservative then the cities as has been the case for probably thousands of years?
But anyway, terrible, morally bankrupt and childish idea here.
by Petrolheadia » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:46 am
by Sovaal » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:46 am
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Bakery Hill wrote:Well one's more important than the other really. If the supply of manufactured goods, petrol etc. got cut off farmers would have to turn Amish and that would be pretty fucking annoying. But if food got cut off...
You could buy your food from other countries.
Also, food doesn't do you much good if you need medication manufactured by city-dwellers to survive.
And given the abuse rampant in the Amish community, I'd say it's more than a mere "inconvenience" to go Amish.
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:47 am
Sovaal wrote:Terrible idea these "city-states" would bankrupt themselves feeding their citizens and be a risk of famine from embargoes and such. And good luck getting food to the interior cities.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Sovaal » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:48 am
The Parkus Empire wrote:Sovaal wrote:My fucking god. whay next, re-ensnare apartheid in South Africa? Anyway, it was just rural counties that voted for Trump, many industrial areas did as well. Anyway, is this a fucking surprise to anyone that rural areas across the country are fucking goddam more conservative then the cities as has been the case for probably thousands of years?
But anyway, terrible, morally bankrupt and childish idea here.
Actuall the rural in America largely jouined the Republican Party due to the Southern Strategy. Before that they were overwhelmingly Democrat. As for why minorities in rural areas vote Republican, I am guessing that has to do with local identity.
by Sovaal » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:48 am
by The Parkus Empire » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:52 am
by The Parkus Empire » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:53 am
Sovaal wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:Actuall the rural in America largely jouined the Republican Party due to the Southern Strategy. Before that they were overwhelmingly Democrat. As for why minorities in rural areas vote Republican, I am guessing that has to do with local identity.
When the rural areas where Democratic (and a lot still are in regards to their state governments) they where still conservative. Dixiecrats and all that.
by Sovaal » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:56 am
by The Parkus Empire » Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:00 am
by Spheal World » Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:03 am
by Greed and Death » Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:04 am
Spheal World wrote:America is terrible. Everyone is fat. England is the best
by The Parkus Empire » Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:04 am
Spheal World wrote:America is terrible. Everyone is fat. England is the best
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