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by Internationalist Bastard » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:53 pm
by Greater Cesnica » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:55 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Liriena wrote:Or maybe we genuinely, legitimately see something really wrong with the Israeli state's behavior?
Maybe. But I see such ferverent criticism of the most pluralistic and tolerant state in the whole Middle East, which shows extraordinary restraint in the face of regular terrorist attacks, as surely very ideologically biased rather than based on the real.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Saiwania » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:58 pm
by Greater Cesnica » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:01 pm
Saiwania wrote:With the exception of the majority Semite countries, antisemitism probably exists to some extent- in every single country on Earth. There is no need to single out Germany and it is absurd what the German government does. It'd be better for Germany to keep their strong constitutional protections and oversight in place but move on from the Holocaust, it is gradually becoming irrelevant. Time to move on.
I dare say that Germany wasn't all bad during World War II, they had a world class military with many victories and innovation under their belt. I say no to glorifying the Nazi era but yes to seeing the Iron Cross in a positive light.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:03 pm
Saiwania wrote:With the exception of the majority Semite countries, antisemitism probably exists to some extent- in every single country on Earth. There is no need to single out Germany and it is absurd what the German government does. It'd be better for Germany to keep their strong constitutional protections and oversight in place but move on from the Holocaust, it is gradually becoming irrelevant. Time to move on.
I dare say that Germany wasn't all bad during World War II, they had a world class military with many victories and innovation under their belt. I say no to glorifying the Nazi era but yes to seeing the Iron Cross in a positive light.
by Saiwania » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:04 pm
Greater Cesnica wrote:If only the Iron Cross didn't represent a murderous, psychopathic regime...
by Kramania » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:05 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:SauseBERLIN — When telecommunications manager Mikhail Tanaev emigrated to Germany in 1998 from his native Russia as a teen, his Jewish faith didn't matter to classmates or neighbors.
That's because Germany has taken extraordinary steps since the end of World War II to atone for the Holocaust and prevent anti-Semitism from taking hold again. The country has paid reparations to Jewish victims of Nazi persecution, erected dozens of memorials to those murdered and turned anti-Semitic speech into a crime.
Yet Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision in 2015 to open the nation's arms to 1 million mostly Muslim refugees has created a double threat for Germany's roughly 120,000 Jews: rising anti-Semitism from the newcomers and a resurgent right-wing nationalist movement spawned by the arrival of so many immigrants.
The anti-Semitic sentiment has become more pubic and virulent, said Tanaev, 32. "When I arrived in Germany ... I never saw such displays."
Last week, thousands of protesters in Berlin burned Israeli flags to protest President Trump's controversial decision on Dec. 7 to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. The flag-burning prompted a national outcry.
"I never thought that could happen in the middle of Berlin. That's something you see in other parts of the world. It's really disturbing," Tanaev said. "It feels like we're being threatened because you never know how people will react further when something like this occurs."
Other instances of anti-Semitism in Germany have become more common and brazen recently. Last month, thieves in Berlin made off with more than a dozen cobblestone-sized plaques embedded in sidewalks memorializing victims of the Holocaust. And the German military found Nazi memorabilia in soldiers' barracks over the summer.
In 2016, Germany recorded 1,468 anti-Semitic incidents, an increase from previous years that has put Germany's Jewish community on edge, According to a recent survey by the University of Bielefeld in western Germany, 62% of Jewish respondents said they experience anti-Semitism in their everyday lives, while 28% said they were victims of verbal attacks or harassment in the past year.
The survey points to increased anti-Semitism by Muslim newcomers and a strengthened right-wing nativist movement, said Andreas Zick, who led the study.
Underscoring that trend is the rise of the anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany (AfD), now the third-largest political party in parliament four years after its founding. The AfD drums up support with nationalist and anti-Semitic rhetoric.
"Germans are the only people in the world who plant a monument of shame in the heart of the capital," senior AfD member Björn Höcke said this year about the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe in Berlin.
Other party members want Nazi soldiers remembered as patriots.
Zick also noted anti-Semitic remarks posted on social media by right-wing groups. The comments fuel misconceptions among new immigrants that Germany tolerates such behavior, despite strict laws requiring social media giants such as Facebook to delete posts categorized as hate speech, he said.
"There's a lot of evidence from our studies that the Internet and young Muslim men in public are threatening (Jews),” Zick said. “Refugees coming in don't perceive that there's a strong norm against anti-Semitism.”
Such sentiments prompted a Jewish community center in Berlin to launch an initiative to combat anti-Semitism.
"Here, we put in concrete terms that 'the Jew' is actually a normal person — that he looks like you and is someone you can have a normal conversation with," said Rabbi Daniel Fabian of the Kahal Adass Jisroel Jewish community center and synagogue.
Members of the community center have been spit on and harassed in predominately Muslim neighborhoods since 2014, Fabian said. And his synagogue recently received a bomb threat from right-wing radicals. The compound housing the synagogue and community center are now under 24-hour police surveillance.
Jewish leaders are pushing for changes in the education system to head off anti-Semitism, including history lessons with visits to concentration camps. Bavaria is the only German state that now requires such visits.
"We are looking for modern means to convey what has happened and to keep the memory alive," said Josef Schuster, president of Germany's Central Council of Jews.
Tanaev said it also is important to draw parallels between the history of Jewish immigration and the current influx of newcomers. "That's the history of our people, and it's important to show others that fact," he said.
Fabian, whose grandmother was in the Auschwitz concentration camp during World War II, called for support from Muslim groups as well as the government to fight anti-Semitism.
“We can't be the only ones who are constantly reminding everyone else to look at what's happening right under your noses," he said.
Oh for fuck's sake Alt right, this shit again?
And yes, lets get this out of the way, yes, not everyone in the alt right is a raciest, sexiest, homophobe, whatever.
But you have to admit theirs at least some of them who are that way. And there very vocal about it.
But what do you think NSG?
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:06 pm
Saiwania wrote:Greater Cesnica wrote:If only the Iron Cross didn't represent a murderous, psychopathic regime...
Imperial Germany wasn't so bad, they did nothing wrong so far as I can tell, asides from being the most powerful among the losing side of WWI. So far as symbols go- you can't get much more distinctly German than the Iron Cross.
by Greater Cesnica » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:07 pm
Kramania wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:SauseBERLIN — When telecommunications manager Mikhail Tanaev emigrated to Germany in 1998 from his native Russia as a teen, his Jewish faith didn't matter to classmates or neighbors.
That's because Germany has taken extraordinary steps since the end of World War II to atone for the Holocaust and prevent anti-Semitism from taking hold again. The country has paid reparations to Jewish victims of Nazi persecution, erected dozens of memorials to those murdered and turned anti-Semitic speech into a crime.
Yet Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision in 2015 to open the nation's arms to 1 million mostly Muslim refugees has created a double threat for Germany's roughly 120,000 Jews: rising anti-Semitism from the newcomers and a resurgent right-wing nationalist movement spawned by the arrival of so many immigrants.
The anti-Semitic sentiment has become more pubic and virulent, said Tanaev, 32. "When I arrived in Germany ... I never saw such displays."
Last week, thousands of protesters in Berlin burned Israeli flags to protest President Trump's controversial decision on Dec. 7 to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. The flag-burning prompted a national outcry.
"I never thought that could happen in the middle of Berlin. That's something you see in other parts of the world. It's really disturbing," Tanaev said. "It feels like we're being threatened because you never know how people will react further when something like this occurs."
Other instances of anti-Semitism in Germany have become more common and brazen recently. Last month, thieves in Berlin made off with more than a dozen cobblestone-sized plaques embedded in sidewalks memorializing victims of the Holocaust. And the German military found Nazi memorabilia in soldiers' barracks over the summer.
In 2016, Germany recorded 1,468 anti-Semitic incidents, an increase from previous years that has put Germany's Jewish community on edge, According to a recent survey by the University of Bielefeld in western Germany, 62% of Jewish respondents said they experience anti-Semitism in their everyday lives, while 28% said they were victims of verbal attacks or harassment in the past year.
The survey points to increased anti-Semitism by Muslim newcomers and a strengthened right-wing nativist movement, said Andreas Zick, who led the study.
Underscoring that trend is the rise of the anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany (AfD), now the third-largest political party in parliament four years after its founding. The AfD drums up support with nationalist and anti-Semitic rhetoric.
"Germans are the only people in the world who plant a monument of shame in the heart of the capital," senior AfD member Björn Höcke said this year about the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe in Berlin.
Other party members want Nazi soldiers remembered as patriots.
Zick also noted anti-Semitic remarks posted on social media by right-wing groups. The comments fuel misconceptions among new immigrants that Germany tolerates such behavior, despite strict laws requiring social media giants such as Facebook to delete posts categorized as hate speech, he said.
"There's a lot of evidence from our studies that the Internet and young Muslim men in public are threatening (Jews),” Zick said. “Refugees coming in don't perceive that there's a strong norm against anti-Semitism.”
Such sentiments prompted a Jewish community center in Berlin to launch an initiative to combat anti-Semitism.
"Here, we put in concrete terms that 'the Jew' is actually a normal person — that he looks like you and is someone you can have a normal conversation with," said Rabbi Daniel Fabian of the Kahal Adass Jisroel Jewish community center and synagogue.
Members of the community center have been spit on and harassed in predominately Muslim neighborhoods since 2014, Fabian said. And his synagogue recently received a bomb threat from right-wing radicals. The compound housing the synagogue and community center are now under 24-hour police surveillance.
Jewish leaders are pushing for changes in the education system to head off anti-Semitism, including history lessons with visits to concentration camps. Bavaria is the only German state that now requires such visits.
"We are looking for modern means to convey what has happened and to keep the memory alive," said Josef Schuster, president of Germany's Central Council of Jews.
Tanaev said it also is important to draw parallels between the history of Jewish immigration and the current influx of newcomers. "That's the history of our people, and it's important to show others that fact," he said.
Fabian, whose grandmother was in the Auschwitz concentration camp during World War II, called for support from Muslim groups as well as the government to fight anti-Semitism.
“We can't be the only ones who are constantly reminding everyone else to look at what's happening right under your noses," he said.
Oh for fuck's sake Alt right, this shit again?
And yes, lets get this out of the way, yes, not everyone in the alt right is a raciest, sexiest, homophobe, whatever.
But you have to admit theirs at least some of them who are that way. And there very vocal about it.
But what do you think NSG?
Gee, it's almost like importing people from a famously anti-Semitic part of the world will breed anti-semitism.
Merkel's a fucking twit. Importing people and acting surprised when Jew-hating makes a comeback.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:07 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Saiwania wrote:
Imperial Germany wasn't so bad, they did nothing wrong so far as I can tell, asides from being the most powerful among the losing side of WWI. So far as symbols go- you can't get much more distinctly German than the Iron Cross.
Burning of Louvain?
by Greater Cesnica » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:08 pm
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Kramania » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:10 pm
Greater Cesnica wrote:Kramania wrote:Gee, it's almost like importing people from a famously anti-Semitic part of the world will breed anti-semitism.
Merkel's a fucking twit. Importing people and acting surprised when Jew-hating makes a comeback.
Oh no. What shall we ever do? Maybe let's just kick them all out?
Oh, wait. Shit. We can't do that. Maybe we can cope with it. After all, Germany has shown it's track record of love for minorities.
by Vassenor » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:10 pm
Liriena wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:Article in the OP and OP's analysis are reaching a bit and conflating a lot of different things.
The people protesting Trump's Jerusalem decision are inuitively more likely to be leftists than alt-right. Some neonazis no doubt, but probably far from the plurality. Many of the people who hate Israel are Muslim immigrants or leftists who buy into Hamas propaganda or Marxist analyses of ebil colonialism.
Or maybe we genuinely, legitimately see something really wrong with the Israeli state's behavior?
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:11 pm
by Principality of the Raix » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:12 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:12 pm
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:14 pm
by Greater Cesnica » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:14 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Criticism of the Israeli government's political actions is anti-Semitism because reasons. We've been through this before.
Just like how criticism of Islam and it's adherents actions is Islamophobia.The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Leave them to die by ISIS?
Nah.
Lets kick ISIS's ass and then send them back.
Daesh holds no more territory. Time to kick em out.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Greater Cesnica » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:15 pm
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Principality of the Raix » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:15 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
In Iraq, ISIS isn't fully dead yet.
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by Greater Cesnica » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:17 pm
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Greater Cesnica » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:17 pm
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Principality of the Raix » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:17 pm
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