Trump just recognized Jerusalem as Israel's Capital

[Thermodolia]

Good.

Though the 3 sites (Holy Sepulchre, Dome and Wailing Wall) should become governed by the UN with free access to everybody.

But Jerusalem is and should remain Israel's capital, recognised by all.

Anything that pisses off the Islamic world is just a bonus, and anything that enrages European & American Muslims to rage and riot is politically beneficial.

Id say the Old city should be under UN governance

[The Alma Mater]

Jesus disagrees.

Source?

The Bible. Perhaps you should read it, specifically the Torah parts about Israel and when exactly the Jews are allowed to go there.

[The of Japan]

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/06/palestinian-christians-burn-trump-posters-in-bethlehem-in-fury-over-embassy/

Shit I wonder why they're doing this then

Palestinian Christians. They take the side of Islamists.

Which they should form their own organizations that are not rooted in Islam

[United Muscovite Nations]

Do you mean to say that good C-c-chirstians are oppressed by Israel too??

No they're not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian ... _relations

Also, Christians are even more likely to say that Israel is doing things wrong than Muslims are (see the last paragraph).

[Liriena]

No they're not.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/06/palestinian-christians-burn-trump-posters-in-bethlehem-in-fury-over-embassy/

Shit I wonder why they're doing this then

I gotta give kudos to the Daily Caller here. It must buuuuuuurn them to have to acknowledge the fact that those people are not evil Muslims but Christians.

[Thermodolia]

He made a good move. Israel deserves to exist,

Jesus disagrees.

The opinion of heretics don't matter

[The of Japan]

Source?

The Bible. Perhaps you should read it, specifically the Torah parts about Israel and when exactly the Jews are allowed to go there.

That is not a valid answer, I read the Bible too, just give where it supports your claim.

[Salus Maior]

A guy who has no idea how politics works makes political blunders.

What'd you expect?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

I’d say it’s a political mistake to take the apocalypse into consideration since the end of the world generally doesn’t make for good politics.

It's a political mistake regardless, but if the world is supposed to end in the way that is supposed to be good in the Christian faith, ehhh......

I’m not a Christian so it wouldn’t be good for those us who aren’t in the Christian Faith if banking on the end of the world to bring Jesus back is successful (in ending the world that is, not bringing Jesus back) and we all die for nothing. But I don’t want to get into a religious debate so I’ll just leave it at that. You do you.

[Liriena]

Good.

Though the 3 sites (Holy Sepulchre, Dome and Wailing Wall) should become governed by the UN with free access to everybody.

But Jerusalem is and should remain Israel's capital, recognised by all.

Anything that pisses off the Islamic world is just a bonus, and anything that enrages European & American Muslims to rage and riot is politically beneficial.

Imagine basing your politics on spite and being this smug about it.

[Kennlind]

No they're not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian ... _relations

Also, Christians are even more likely to say that Israel is doing things wrong than Muslims are (see the last paragraph).

Thank you.
"Israel's Declaration of Independence, issued in 1948, describes the country as a Jewish state but clearly extends religious freedoms to all of its inhabitants by stating that the State of Israel will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions"

[United Muscovite Nations]

Because it gave Israel massive amounts of territory that were majority Arab.

Over half the population and half the land went to the Arabs, including Jaffa. A large amount of Jewish land was the very low populated Negev.

The entire Negev desert was given to the Jew, and the Negev desert was like 80% Arab, and giving the Jews that land bisected the Palestinian state.

[Thermodolia]

A guy who has no idea how politics works makes political blunders.

What'd you expect?

Not really a political blunder. I'm leaning towards voting for Trump now

[United Muscovite Nations]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian ... _relations

Also, Christians are even more likely to say that Israel is doing things wrong than Muslims are (see the last paragraph).

Thank you.
"Israel's Declaration of Independence, issued in 1948, describes the country as a Jewish state but clearly extends religious freedoms to all of its inhabitants by stating that the State of Israel will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions"

Way to ignore everything else in the section.

[The of Japan]

Over half the population and half the land went to the Arabs, including Jaffa. A large amount of Jewish land was the very low populated Negev.

The entire Negev desert was given to the Jew, and the Negev desert was like 80% Arab, and giving the Jews that land bisected the Palestinian state.

Negev was small portion of Jewish state population, and today is majority Jewish

[Salus Maior]

Source?

The Bible. Perhaps you should read it, specifically the Torah parts about Israel and when exactly the Jews are allowed to go there.

I'm sure your interpretation is shared widely.

Noting that in the Christian sense that the Church is the "New Israel".

[Free Tristania]

Good.

Though the 3 sites (Holy Sepulchre, Dome and Wailing Wall) should become governed by the UN with free access to everybody.

But Jerusalem is and should remain Israel's capital, recognised by all.

Anything that pisses off the Islamic world is just a bonus, and anything that enrages European & American Muslims to rage and riot is politically beneficial.

I disagree on only one item there: The 3 Holy Sites should be administered by the State of Israel which should enshrine free access in its constitution. The U.N is a worthless body, paper pushers and as corrupt as can be and the less of a role they are given, the better it is for all of us.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The entire Negev desert was given to the Jew, and the Negev desert was like 80% Arab, and giving the Jews that land bisected the Palestinian state.

Negev was small portion of Jewish state population, and today is majority Jewish

Then why give it to the Jews when it was vastly majority Arab?

[Liriena]

A guy who has no idea how politics works makes political blunders.

What'd you expect?

Not really a political blunder. I'm leaning towards voting for Trump now

No offense, but booooooo.

[Thermodolia]

Good.

Though the 3 sites (Holy Sepulchre, Dome and Wailing Wall) should become governed by the UN with free access to everybody.

But Jerusalem is and should remain Israel's capital, recognised by all.

Anything that pisses off the Islamic world is just a bonus, and anything that enrages European & American Muslims to rage and riot is politically beneficial.

Imagine basing your politics on spite and being this smug about it.

Isn't that what politics pretty much is? Doing things to spite the other side?

[Holy Tedalonia]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian ... _relations

Also, Christians are even more likely to say that Israel is doing things wrong than Muslims are (see the last paragraph).

Thank you.
"Israel's Declaration of Independence, issued in 1948, describes the country as a Jewish state but clearly extends religious freedoms to all of its inhabitants by stating that the State of Israel will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions"

Why does that mean Christians and Jews are enemies? There are plenty Christians in Jerusalem anyways.

[Aillyria]

Yes, make the holy city of 3 religions the capitol of a genocidal zionist "nation" that exists on land stolen from the natives within living memory.

Yes, "genocidal".

The same nation that has made great strives to accommodate its Arabic and Muslim citizens, that has repeatedly tried to come to some sort of arrangement with Palestine and that literally allows anti-Zionist Islamic parties to participate in the Israeli Knesset despite many of them being opposed to the very existence of Israel as a nation.

Wow, what a bunch of evil genocidal mass-murderers.

The only acceptable "arrangement" is for the Jews to hand over all land they stole from the Palestinians in 1947.

[The of Japan]

Negev was small portion of Jewish state population, and today is majority Jewish

Then why give it to the Jews when it was vastly majority Arab?

Idk why, the UN decided to make it so in the partition plan.

[Thermodolia]

Not really a political blunder. I'm leaning towards voting for Trump now

No offense, but booooooo.

I don't care. I like his foreign policy, other while I'm leaning towards voting for him he'll probably do something stupid to make me reconsider

[Kennlind]

Negev was small portion of Jewish state population, and today is majority Jewish

Then why give it to the Jews when it was vastly majority Arab?

It wasn't just given to the Jews. It was given back to the Jews.