FCC to repeal Net Neutrality Bill

[Ifreann]

Ajit Varandaraj Pai is a 44 year old attorney. He was born in Buffalo, New York. He got his BA in Social Studies at Harvard and his JD at University of Chicago. After law school he clerked for Martin Leach-Cross Feldman. He worked for the Antitrust Division of the DOJ. He worked for Verizon. He worked for the Judiciary Committee of the Senate. He worked in the FCC's Office of General Counsel. He worked for law firm Jenner & Block. He was nominated to the FCC by Barack Obama on the advice of Mitch McConnell, and designated Chairman by Donald Trump. He's married to Janine Van Lancker and lives with her and their two children in Arlington, Virginia.

What is Reddit going to tell us that Wikipedia can't?

As mentioned early, his personal phone,

Supposing they could discover this, so what? He'll buy a new phone.

address,

Again, what's the internet going to do with this? Ajit Pai isn't some YouTuber who pissed off 4chan, he's a successful attorney and part of the federal government. If people start showing up at his house, he'll get police protection and a handful of trolls will rot in federal prison.

maybe any scandalous doings.

Shocking reveal that Pai once worked for Verizon!

[Thermodolia]

An actual news source. Like CNN, BBC, or Fox news

Ars Technica
is not fake news.

I did not call it fake news I just asked for a more trusted news source. The fact that you are unwilling to provide another source tells me that the claim is bullshit

[Ethel mermania]

Holy shit this guy is playing with fire. Has he not seen the power the internet as a collective has lol? I mean, with groups like 4chan and Reddit who have been known to gang up for things like this, man. His entire life is about to be exposed (not that I endorse this but it will be pretty funny to watch).

Exactly what do you think Reddit is going to do to Ajit Pai? Upvote comments calling him a Muslim?

They will make mean memes of him till he cries and gives up.

[Risottia]

They can't throttle your services if you use a VPN.

Exactly how come your provider cannot throttle your speed down if your packets have a "VPN" header? I don't really think it works like that. The throttling can be done at layer 1.

[Ifreann]

Exactly what do you think Reddit is going to do to Ajit Pai? Upvote comments calling him a Muslim?

They will make mean memes of him till he cries and gives up.

Help us, memegenerator, you're our only hope!

[Naval Monte]

Whats even the point of this, what will this do??

The point is to make people aware what the FCC plans to change to make those who disagree with it to contact their representatives and state their disapproval towards the plan.

This thread also has the second objective of getting users of this site to share the news to other websites so the news would spread.

[Imerisium]

Lol. GUYS you don't NEED the FCC to have Net Neutrality!! Just get a VPN.

We can literally take this into our own hands and GET Net Neutrality OURSELVES.

Each and every one of you HAS THE POWER to get Net Neutrality from your ISP yourself!! Go get a VPN!! I don't get why this is such a big deal. The solution to all of these problems is a simple download away!!

Do you want Net Neutrality?? YOU CAN HAVE IT. And the FCC doesn't even factor in to you getting it!!

[Petrolheadia]

Lol. GUYS you don't NEED the FCC to have Net Neutrality!! Just get a VPN.

We can literally take this into our own hands and GET Net Neutrality OURSELVES.

Each and every one of you HAS THE POWER to get Net Neutrality from your ISP yourself!! Go get a VPN!! I don't get why this is such a big deal. The solution to all of these problems is a simple download away!!

Do you want Net Neutrality?? YOU CAN HAVE IT. And the FCC doesn't even factor in to you getting it!!

And why can't the FCC do it?

The average American does not know for shit what a VPN is.

[Soleanna]

The end of the world for me

1. My down/up speed drops from its usual 70 - 50
2. NationStates is blocked
3. Weekly Anime Streams are block or buffering becomes more apparent
4. Can't access steam nor origins
5. Photoshop / Illustrator related sites that I use aren't accessible
6. Social Media cease global interaction with the world ~Well from the US

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I did not call it fake news

An actual news source. Like CNN, BBC, or Fox news

You did. Or at the least, you implied it.

I just asked for a more trusted news source. The fact that you are unwilling to provide another source tells me that the claim is bullshit

I'm not unwilling, just can't find another source.

But that doesn't mean that Ars Technica isn't a trustworthy source.

Burden of proof is on you to prove that it isn't a trustworthy source.

Lol. GUYS you don't NEED the FCC to have Net Neutrality!! Just get a VPN.

We can literally take this into our own hands and GET Net Neutrality OURSELVES.

Each and every one of you HAS THE POWER to get Net Neutrality from your ISP yourself!! Go get a VPN!! I don't get why this is such a big deal. The solution to all of these problems is a simple download away!!

Do you want Net Neutrality?? YOU CAN HAVE IT. And the FCC doesn't even factor in to you getting it!!

Then pay for everyones VPN then.

Otherwise, no.


Also, Trump's FCC ignored comments.

[Ethel mermania]

Lol. GUYS you don't NEED the FCC to have Net Neutrality!! Just get a VPN.

We can literally take this into our own hands and GET Net Neutrality OURSELVES.

Each and every one of you HAS THE POWER to get Net Neutrality from your ISP yourself!! Go get a VPN!! I don't get why this is such a big deal. The solution to all of these problems is a simple download away!!

Do you want Net Neutrality?? YOU CAN HAVE IT. And the FCC doesn't even factor in to you getting it!!

Well if the vpn were direct to the content provider, ok. My question would be how does it prevent a ISP from slowing down content before it gets to the vpn server?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Whats even the point of this, what will this do??

Watch this

[Entronium]

It's not a repeal because there is nothing to repeal, it's a rule change. Nothing is going to happen to 90% of the Internet

If you visit more than 9 sites each day, it sounds as if you will be affected,

Sounds like me i visit around 12 sites per day

[Ifreann]

Lol. GUYS you don't NEED the FCC to have Net Neutrality!! Just get a VPN.

We can literally take this into our own hands and GET Net Neutrality OURSELVES.

Each and every one of you HAS THE POWER to get Net Neutrality from your ISP yourself!! Go get a VPN!! I don't get why this is such a big deal. The solution to all of these problems is a simple download away!!

Do you want Net Neutrality?? YOU CAN HAVE IT. And the FCC doesn't even factor in to you getting it!!

Well if the vpn were direct to the content provider, ok. My question would be how does it prevent a ISP from slowing down content before it gets to the vpn server?

Shh, we don't need to know how it works. Just hand over your money.

[Thermodolia]

I did not call it fake news

An actual news source. Like CNN, BBC, or Fox news

You did. Or at the least, you implied it.

I just asked for a more trusted news source. The fact that you are unwilling to provide another source tells me that the claim is bullshit

I'm not unwilling, just can't find another source.

Then it most likely is a bullshit claim. If only one source is printing a story but nobody else is then it's most likely a bullshit story

But that doesn't mean that Ars Technica isn't a trustworthy source.

That doesn't matter.

Burden of proof is on you to prove that it isn't a trustworthy source.

No it's not. The burden of proof is on you to support the claim not me. Don't tell my to do the heavy lifting and dirty work you don't want to do

[Thermodolia]

Whats even the point of this, what will this do??

Watch this

Read this

[Imerisium]

They can't throttle your services if you use a VPN.

Exactly how come your provider cannot throttle your speed down if your packets have a "VPN" header? I don't really think it works like that. The throttling can be done at layer 1.

The type of throttling that Net Neutrality rules going away allows for are bypassed by a VPN.

There is a chance that an ISP can throttle all VPN related stuff, but there are VPNs designed specifically to fool Idols and make a VPN request not look like it is a VPN request. And when a company threatens throttling there is usually a huge rush by VPN companies to ensure that their VPN beats the ISP, like following Verizon's plan to throttle all video back in August, there are already a host of VPNs specifically designed to beat that throttling.

This problem is something we can solve ourselves. And it is something we should look into solving ourselves, because the DVD ain't budging. Signing petitions can only go so far against lobbying, but we individually can take away these corporation's ability to throttle the services we pay for.

[Telconi]

Ding dong the witch is dead! The Title II witch is dead!

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Reading the arguments somewhere else on both sides, I can come to agree with removing net neutrality to an extent.

Title II of the Telecommunications Act was a really bad positioning to begin with from Net Neutrality advocates. The entire act overall is rather outdated, due to the speed our telecommunications technology has advanced.

I honestly don't think Net Neutrality under Title II is a hill to die on at this point in time.

[Thermodolia]

Ding song the witch is dead! The Title II witch is dead!

You have now been marked as a traitor to the internet. Off to the internet gulag for you

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

You did. Or at the least, you implied it.


I'm not unwilling, just can't find another source.

Then it most likely is a bullshit claim. If only one source is printing a story but nobody else is then it's most likely a bullshit story

But that doesn't mean that Ars Technica isn't a trustworthy source.

That doesn't matter.

Burden of proof is on you to prove that it isn't a trustworthy source.

No it's not. The burden of proof is on you to support the claim not me. Don't tell my to do the heavy lifting and dirty work you don't want to do

Not always.

And yes it is. I supported my claim of the FCC wanting to fuck over everyone, you haven't supported you claim that Ars Technica is BS.

Your argument is essentially "The article could be BS". Or "I think the article might be BS".

It might be. No proof provided by you for it being BS.

It's your opinion that you have a right to have that it maybe BS. But I disagree.

[Ifreann]

Exactly how come your provider cannot throttle your speed down if your packets have a "VPN" header? I don't really think it works like that. The throttling can be done at layer 1.

The type of throttling that Net Neutrality rules going away allows for are bypassed by a VPN.

There is a chance that an ISP can throttle all VPN related stuff, but there are VPNs designed specifically to fool Idols and make a VPN request not look like it is a VPN request. And when a company threatens throttling there is usually a huge rush by VPN companies to ensure that their VPN beats the ISP, like following Verizon's plan to throttle all video back in August, there are already a host of VPNs specifically designed to beat that throttling.

This problem is something we can solve ourselves. And it is something we should look into solving ourselves, because the DVD ain't budging. Signing petitions can only go so far against lobbying, but we individually can take away these corporation's ability to throttle the services we pay for.

By giving money to other corporations. Hmm.

[Kramania]

Boy oh Boy, this shit is being spammed everywhere from Reddit to backwater blogs.

Apparently the internet was literally inaccessible before net neutrality.

[Thermodolia]

Then it most likely is a bullshit claim. If only one source is printing a story but nobody else is then it's most likely a bullshit story


That doesn't matter.


No it's not. The burden of proof is on you to support the claim not me. Don't tell my to do the heavy lifting and dirty work you don't want to do

Not always.

And yes it is. I supported my claim of the FCC wanting to fuck over everyone, you haven't supported you claim that Ars Technica is BS.

Your argument is essentially "The article could be BS". Or "I think the article might be BS".

It might be. No proof provided by you for it being BS.

It's your opinion that you have a right to have that it maybe BS. But I disagree.

The burden of proof is on you not me. All I asked for was another source. The fact that you are unwilling and unable to provide another source is very telling.

[Telconi]

Ding song the witch is dead! The Title II witch is dead!

You have now been marked as a traitor to the internet. Off to the internet gulag for you

Well seeing that as I write this my shirt, coat, ball cap, truck, phone, and paycheck have the logo of one of those big bad telecom giants on them. I think I have more skin in the game than what "the Internet" thinks.