Omakhandia wrote:I mean, if you really believe in communist collectives, you're definitely compromising some core beliefs no matter where you're from.
Why? I am a communist.
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by Democratic Communist Federation » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:24 pm
Omakhandia wrote:I mean, if you really believe in communist collectives, you're definitely compromising some core beliefs no matter where you're from.
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by Luziland » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:40 pm
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by Bardarus » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:04 am
Yagon wrote:Bardarus wrote:Well i don't have an ideology and i don't count my Christian religion as a form of ideology but then again i don't know this 'other tribe' because the term is to vague, can you please give a clarification of this 'other tribe' but to answer the question then if the ideology does not include religion or abandoning my religion then no i would not join the other tribe, if the ideology does not concern religious beliefs then yes i would join the other tribe to increase my chances of survival.
In the scenario as presented it would involve changing to their religion (at least outwardly).
As a sub-branch, suppose their religion was Southwest American Protestant Evangelism (or something of that sort). Could you align with that?
by Socialist Tera » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:46 am
by Yagon » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:02 am
Luziland wrote:if it is just religion, of course i would do it. i don't have to actually believe whatever they believe, i just have to pretend that i am believing all their stuff and follow some weird, slightly inconvenient rules. of course it would get really annoying after some time, but i guess i won't have to do it forever. just long enough until i find a chance to get away and live elsewhere (unless it's a weird sect like jehovas witnesses, scientology, etc. who would probably try to reduce interaction with outsiders to the absolute minimum so that people will not be able to leave once they're in).
if it's some worse stuff, like maybe their ideology is that everyone who is not part of the tribe must be tortured and kept alive as long as possible and newcomers must participate in the torturing as some sort of initiation rite, i'd probably say "yeah, nah, i'm gonna leave now, see ya" and then i guess i should run as fast and as far as possible, before i become their next victim lol
by Democratic Communist Federation » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:49 am
Bardarus wrote:well, i was baptized in an Armenian Apostolic Church, and i refuse to be re-batpized by other Christian denominations however, the Church of God whether it is American Protestant Evangelical, Roman Catholic or Eastern Byzantine Greek Orthodox is still the Church of God for me and i am an Ecumenist when it comes to uniting all versions of Christianity to reinstall unity of the Church so i guess that if this American Protestant Evangelist Church is the ONLY CHURCH within miles and miles then yes i accept it.
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by Luziland » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:43 pm
Yagon wrote:Luziland wrote:if it is just religion, of course i would do it. i don't have to actually believe whatever they believe, i just have to pretend that i am believing all their stuff and follow some weird, slightly inconvenient rules. of course it would get really annoying after some time, but i guess i won't have to do it forever. just long enough until i find a chance to get away and live elsewhere (unless it's a weird sect like jehovas witnesses, scientology, etc. who would probably try to reduce interaction with outsiders to the absolute minimum so that people will not be able to leave once they're in).
if it's some worse stuff, like maybe their ideology is that everyone who is not part of the tribe must be tortured and kept alive as long as possible and newcomers must participate in the torturing as some sort of initiation rite, i'd probably say "yeah, nah, i'm gonna leave now, see ya" and then i guess i should run as fast and as far as possible, before i become their next victim lol
What if it were not torture, but they intended to kill some local outgroup (say 300 people), and you were not expected to participate or even observe, but to just stay out of it. Could you do that?
by Yagon » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:47 pm
Luziland wrote:not sure. partly i think "yes, as long as i don't have to help them with the killing in any way" but partly i think that maybe i will still have a very bad feeling afterwards and i might want to do something to prevent the killing. i guess i'd just have to be in that situation to know what i'd really do.
by UniversalCommons » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:37 pm
by Yagon » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:44 pm
UniversalCommons wrote:There is another thing to to think about. A person puts a sword to your neck. They say that you have to profess a certain religion. You profess that you are that religion. They take away the sword. Everyone professes to the particularly religion or they die by the sword. No one actually practices the religion in question. You go to a meal where they eat forbidden meat, the man who was about to cut your head off gives you a shish kebab and a drink. A lot of professions about ideology are about control.
by Bardarus » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:48 am
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:Bardarus wrote:well, i was baptized in an Armenian Apostolic Church, and i refuse to be re-batpized by other Christian denominations however, the Church of God whether it is American Protestant Evangelical, Roman Catholic or Eastern Byzantine Greek Orthodox is still the Church of God for me and i am an Ecumenist when it comes to uniting all versions of Christianity to reinstall unity of the Church so i guess that if this American Protestant Evangelist Church is the ONLY CHURCH within miles and miles then yes i accept it.
Would you have a problem joining the Coptic Orthodox Church or any other branch of Oriental Orthodoxy?
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
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