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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:42 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Ukraine? Not Russia? Ohhh, this is getting good.


You haven't read through the charges filed against Papadopolous, have you? Where he was literally setting up meetings between the campaign and the Russian Interior Ministry?

Literally with Putin from the sounds of it.
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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:44 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:Apparently it's more than just Manafort.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... spartanntp

Documents that were unsealed Monday showed that a federal grand jury indicted Manafort and his former business associate, Rick Gates. They were charged with conspiracy to launder money, conspiracy against the U.S., unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading statements surrounding the Foreign Agents Registration Act , false statements and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts.

Separately, George Papadopoulos, who served as a foreign policy adviser on Mr. Trump's campaign, has pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI as well. That statement had to do with the nature of his relationship with "certain foreign nationals whom he understood to have close connections with senior Russian government officials."

I expected it to be more than just Manafort to be honest.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:44 pm

Shofercia wrote:Ukraine? Not Russia? Ohhh, this is getting good.

How many times do I have to say that the investigation is still ongoing?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Ukraine? Not Russia? Ohhh, this is getting good.

How many times do I have to say that the investigation is still ongoing?


He's more used to Russian investigations where guilt is pre-determined and the outcome is a bullet in the back of the head on the court steps.
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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Ukraine? Not Russia? Ohhh, this is getting good.

How many times do I have to say that the investigation is still ongoing?

You're going to have to say it many more times, I am sure.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:48 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:How many times do I have to say that the investigation is still ongoing?


He's more used to Russian investigations where guilt is pre-determined and the outcome is a bullet in the back of the head on the court steps.


The verdict is guilty, the sentence is death. Let the trial begin.
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Postby Shofercia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:51 pm

Corrian wrote:
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You haven't read through the charges filed against Papadopolous, have you? Where he was literally setting up meetings between the campaign and the Russian Interior Ministry?

Literally with Putin from the sounds of it.


Putin will drop everything and rush to meet two low level advisers... from the US and the UK...


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Shofercia wrote:Ukraine? Not Russia? Ohhh, this is getting good.

How many times do I have to say that the investigation is still ongoing?


Well duh! That's why I said getting thus implying that the investigation is ongoing. NSG teaches you to use proper verbs, the hard way :P
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Postby Ism » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:51 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
He's more used to Russian investigations where guilt is pre-determined and the outcome is a bullet in the back of the head on the court steps.


The verdict is guilty, the sentence is death. Let the trial begin.


Keeping up with the Cardassians are we?
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Postby Shofercia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:52 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:How many times do I have to say that the investigation is still ongoing?


He's more used to Russian investigations where guilt is pre-determined and the outcome is a bullet in the back of the head on the court steps.


I'm actually used to people being able to comprehend basic English verbage. Such as the term getting. When I say that I'm going to the movies, that usually implies that something might happen. Not that something has already happened. I thought it was rather obvious.

Also, I live in California, but even if Russia, if someone was to kill Gorbachev, I'd be screaming for a Jury Trial :)

Personally, I like Jury Trials, and not just because I'm a fan of Atticus Finch. Also, death penalty is banned in Russia, but knowing that requires basic knowledge of Russia, rather than knowledge of Hollywoodesque Stereotypes; then again, you probably think that "Borat is an accurate depiction of Kazakhstan"
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Postby Jerzylvania » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:53 pm

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Sure he talked. He got cut a deal. But when you don't talk the prosecution throws the book at you and raids your house. See Manafort.
Interestingly, this is the way most investigations of gangsters and mobsters are managed.

Well, given the members of Mueller's team ...

- Zainab Ahmad: assistant U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of New York, specializing in terrorism cases[24]
- Greg Andres: former deputy assistant attorney general, managed foreign bribery division[25]
- Rush Atkinson: trial attorney in the DOJ fraud section[24]
- Peter Carr: team spokesman, a veteran DOJ spokesperson[26]
- Michael Dreeben: Deputy Solicitor General, who oversees the Justice Department's criminal appellate docket; an expert in criminal law[27][22][24]
- Kyle Freeny: attorney for the money laundering unit at the Department of Justice[28]
- Andrew D. Goldstein: former leader of the public corruption unit, Southern District of New York[29][24]
- Adam Jed: Attorney in the DOJ Civil Division, appellate section[30]
- Lisa C. Page: DOJ trial attorney in the FBI's Criminal Division Organized Crime Section; formerly an attorney in the office of the FBI general counsel[23]
- Elizabeth Barchas Prelogar: Assistant with the Solicitor General's office; fluent in Russian; former law clerk to Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan[31][24]
- James L. Quarles III: former assistant special prosecutor on the Watergate Special Prosecution Force[24]
- Jeannie S. Rhee: Partner at WilmerHale, specializing in white-collar crime; a former attorney in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel and Assistant United States Attorney in the District of Columbia[24]
- Brandon Van Grack: Justice Department national security division prosecutor[24]
- Andrew Weissmann: Chief of the DOJ Criminal Division's Fraud Section[16][24]
- Aaron Zebley: former chief of staff to Mueller at the FBI[24]
- Aaron S.J. Zelinsky: an attorney on detail from the U.S. Attorney's Office in the District of Maryland[33][34]


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Postby Shofercia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:53 pm

Vassenor wrote:The verdict is guilty, the sentence is death. Let the trial begin.


Said the DNC about Donald Trump...
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Postby Collatis » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:57 pm

Ism wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
The verdict is guilty, the sentence is death. Let the trial begin.


Keeping up with the Cardassians are we?

I was thinking the same thing :p

though I wouldn't have used such a corny joke
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:57 pm

Ism wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
The verdict is guilty, the sentence is death. Let the trial begin.


Keeping up with the Cardassians are we?

Boooooo...
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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:04 pm

Trump's Gallup Approval Poll has him at 33% approval

This is not Trump's day.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:07 pm


How low can we go? How low can we go?
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Postby Shofercia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:09 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

How low can we go? How low can we go?


Harry Truman holds the record at 22%

http://news.gallup.com/poll/116677/pres ... rends.aspx
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:15 pm

Do threads max out at 500 pages?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:15 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:Do threads max out at 500 pages?

They get closed at 500 yes.
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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:17 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:How low can we go? How low can we go?


Harry Truman holds the record at 22%

http://news.gallup.com/poll/116677/pres ... rends.aspx

Days to fall to 33% approval rating:
Source: Gallup
Reagan: Never
H.W. Bush: 1,283
Clinton: Never
W. Bush: 1,933
Obama: Never
Trump: 285
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:18 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:Do threads max out at 500 pages?

They get closed at 500 yes.

Theoretically they could go on forever. I imagine there's a technical limit out there somewhere but the rule is, 500 pages and the thread gets locked.
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Postby Shofercia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:20 pm

Corrian wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Harry Truman holds the record at 22%

http://news.gallup.com/poll/116677/pres ... rends.aspx

Days to fall to 33% approval rating:
Source: Gallup
Reagan: Never
H.W. Bush: 1,283
Clinton: Never
W. Bush: 1,933
Obama: Never
Trump: 285


His question was "how low can you go?" I doubt anyone will beat Truman's 22% :P
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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:21 pm

Puerto Rico Cancels Whitefish Energy Contract to Rebuild Power Lines

Edit: I think this is official now?
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While government officials in Washington and San Juan have argued over how a company from Whitefish, Mont., with connections to the secretary of the interior but only two full-time employees secured an emergency contract that requires the work of thousands of people, the majority of Puerto Rico is still without electricity, nearly six weeks after Hurricane Maria knocked down thousands of poles and lines.


See - this is why Puerto Rico needs representation in Congress. They're being treated like a colony. And Trump's treatment of them is just sad!
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