by Torrocca » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:50 pm
by Thermodolia » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:52 pm
Torrocca wrote:Governor Scott has declared a state of emergency for Alachua County ahead of Richard Spencer's planned speech on Thursday on the campus of the University of Florida.
In my opinion, this is a good move on the Governor's part, and a shit one on Spencer's part. I'd rather not see a Nazi in my home state, and I'd much rather not see another bout of violence caused by a Nazi. I've always been politically against Nazis and Nazism, and against really letting them spread their Nazism. I'm also, frankly, concerned about the well-being of several of my friends at the University. So, again, I'm entirely in support of Governor Scott's measures here.
What are your thoughts, NSG?
by United States of Red Dawn » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:54 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Torrocca wrote:Governor Scott has declared a state of emergency for Alachua County ahead of Richard Spencer's planned speech on Thursday on the campus of the University of Florida.
In my opinion, this is a good move on the Governor's part, and a shit one on Spencer's part. I'd rather not see a Nazi in my home state, and I'd much rather not see another bout of violence caused by a Nazi. I've always been politically against Nazis and Nazism, and against really letting them spread their Nazism. I'm also, frankly, concerned about the well-being of several of my friends at the University. So, again, I'm entirely in support of Governor Scott's measures here.
What are your thoughts, NSG?
Good on the governor. Hopefully he preemptively orders up the national guard in case things go south.
by Shikihara » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:56 pm
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by Thermodolia » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:13 pm
Atkemri wrote:I think he should have let him speak. Even though he's a Nazi free speech is important,but I see why seeing what happened in Charlottesville.
by Rusozak » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:20 pm
Shikihara wrote:While I'm all for diversity of opinions in universities, really have no idea what a Neo Nazi populist is supposed to contribute to an academic setting, besides maybe giving protesters something to do. Glad the governor is preparing in advance for the storm.
by Torrocca » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:21 pm
by Community Values » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:23 pm
by Telconi » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:23 pm
by Torrocca » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:24 pm
Community Values wrote:It should be the university's call, not the governer's.
by Community Values » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:26 pm
by Des-Bal » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:30 pm
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Major-Tom » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:34 pm
Des-Bal wrote:If there was any way at all to handle this in a less obtrusive manner then that's what Scott should have done. In any case the guy should have the opportunity to speak. Civilized people do not demonstrate that their adversaries are incorrect by silencing them, to quote an old man speaking through an imaginary person "when you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar." The hard light of day and the knife fight that is the market place of ideas cleanses the world of unworthy opinions fashioned in smoke filled basements underneath gun shops.
by Des-Bal » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:37 pm
Major-Tom wrote:
Scott isn't not allowing him speak, he is simply taking caution for when Spencer does speak.
What happened at Berkeley when Coulter and Milo tried to speak was actually quite bad, and the anti-free speech college kids sure didn't help. Scott is merely saying "we saw violence there, let's make sure that when a controversial figure speaks, he has the freedom to do so but precautions are in place."
That is reasonable.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Bakery Hill » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:37 pm
by Major-Tom » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:37 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Major-Tom wrote:
Scott isn't not allowing him speak, he is simply taking caution for when Spencer does speak.
What happened at Berkeley when Coulter and Milo tried to speak was actually quite bad, and the anti-free speech college kids sure didn't help. Scott is merely saying "we saw violence there, let's make sure that when a controversial figure speaks, he has the freedom to do so but precautions are in place."
That is reasonable.
I'm aware of that, I was saying that the least obtrusive option would be the best one and I'm not sure placing the county under a state of emergency was necessarily that.
by Washington Resistance Army » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:38 pm
by The Widening Gyre » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:40 pm
Rusozak wrote:Shikihara wrote:While I'm all for diversity of opinions in universities, really have no idea what a Neo Nazi populist is supposed to contribute to an academic setting, besides maybe giving protesters something to do. Glad the governor is preparing in advance for the storm.
Real life devil's advocate? Poster child of how not to think? Or the university is pulling the ultimate example of troll baiting.
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