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Should the US build a wall or land on Mars?

Border Wall!
38
14%
Mars!
163
59%
I'm not murican so Border Wall
13
5%
I'm not murican so Mars!
64
23%
 
Total votes : 278

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Rusozak
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:30 am

Go to Mars and make Trump pay for it. ;)
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:41 am

Rusozak wrote:Go to Mars and make Trump pay for it. ;)

That would require him to be actually rich
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:41 am

Kannap wrote:
Coalition of North American States wrote:A wall would be a monument to the stupidity of people.


Look, you can hate the Chinese but don't insult them publicly.

Not my fault they still got conquered by the Mongols.
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Postby Coalition of North American States » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:46 am

Sovaal wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Look, you can hate the Chinese but don't insult them publicly.

Not my fault they still got conquered by the Mongols.

I was not trying to insult China, I was insulting Trump.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:47 am

Kannap wrote:
Coalition of North American States wrote:A wall would be a monument to the stupidity of people.


Look, you can hate the Chinese but don't insult them publicly.

Who says he was insulting the Chinese, he could be insulting the Romans
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Postby Greater Redosia » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:57 am

starts going all spacecore


Sppaaaaaaaccceee lets go to mars! Yes mars! A wall impedes travel, mars is travel! To mars!!
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Postby Coalition of North American States » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:00 am

Greater Redosia wrote:starts going all spacecore


Sppaaaaaaaccceee lets go to mars! Yes mars! A wall impedes travel, mars is travel! To mars!!

Someone who agrees with me!
When we stop expanding, we will die. So, lets go to Mars!!
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Krasny-Volny
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:07 am

The Federation of Kendor wrote:Mars. I don't want Mexicans to be banned from entering the US.


Speaking as an immigrant to the states myself, as far as I'm aware that is not what is being proposed.

What's being proposed is a crackdown on illegal immigrants. Mexican citizens who choose to enter the country legally through designated entry points with due process will still be allowed to enter the US.
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Krasny-Volny
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:08 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Look, you can hate the Chinese but don't insult them publicly.

Who says he was insulting the Chinese, he could be insulting the Romans


No, clearly he was insulting the East Germans.
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Stonok
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Postby Stonok » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:10 am

I know we're supposed to assume both are feasible, but I honestly don't think Mars is until terraforming is invented, which I don't think we'll truly have for a few centuries or more yet.

Though either way I say Border Wall, just so we can have a Great Wall of America.

And then we'll build a wall around Earth and make the Martians pay for it!

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Postby Gallia- » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:10 am

Venus.

Thermodolia wrote:
Rusozak wrote:Go to Mars and make Trump pay for it. ;)

That would require him to be actually rich


He is literally the richest President ever.

If all the Perot '96 bumper stickers I see on cars today were any less depressing, he would be the 2nd richest, but only by about two and a half Mitt Romneys.

If he really needs to meet Elon Musk on the way up he can just skim money from the federal budget or something through tax breaks for small fingered people who like gold and sexual assault.
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:18 am

As much as I like border security and want to cut down on illegal immigration space travel is pretty fuckin' cool so I'm gonna go with Mars.
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Postby Coalition of North American States » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:19 am

I would build a wall around Trump Tower and throw paper towels at it. Oh, and make him pay for it.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:20 am

Mars obviously.

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Postby Kannap » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:20 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Fuck, I'm torn

It depends. Do we have terraforming yet? How big shall the color be?

A wall vs American Space Empire. How is that even a choice?


Consider, for a moment, the can of worms that we would be opening.

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Postby Genivaria » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:21 am

Kannap wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:A wall vs American Space Empire. How is that even a choice?


Consider, for a moment, the can of worms that we would be opening.

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Flaskjinia
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Postby Flaskjinia » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:22 am

The Federation of Kendor wrote:Mars. I don't want Mexicans to be banned from entering the US. Plus, space is important for science and the humanity


What makes you think the proposition of a border wall comes with the proposition of a Mexican ban? It won't ban them from coming here.
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Coalition of North American States
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Postby Coalition of North American States » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:26 am

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Rusozak
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:34 am

Gallia- wrote:Venus.

Thermodolia wrote:That would require him to be actually rich


He is literally the richest President ever.


Well, probably not rich enough to fund a Mars colony.

But seriously, I'm all for Mars colonization and increased attention on space exploration. Divert the entire wall budget, raise taxes, gouge the defense budget if you have to. Leaving humanity's cradle that is Earth may be a tad more important than having the means to fight the entire world and nuke it into oblivion several times.
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Minoa
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Postby Minoa » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:35 am

Mars, if only to heal the divisions that threaten to tear us apart.
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:36 am

One will never impact the other. Mars is in the future no matter what.
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Major-Tom
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:36 am

Neither - both are expensive.

That said, I would like us to go to Mars at some point.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:37 am

Rusozak wrote:Go to Mars and make Trump pay for it. ;)


Send Trump to Mars?

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:37 am

Rusozak wrote:
Gallia- wrote:Venus.



He is literally the richest President ever.


Well, probably not rich enough to fund a Mars colony.

But seriously, I'm all for Mars colonization and increased attention on space exploration. Divert the entire wall budget, raise taxes, gouge the defense budget if you have to. Leaving humanity's cradle that is Earth may be a tad more important than having the means to fight the entire world and nuke it into oblivion several times.


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Postby Rusozak » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:39 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Rusozak wrote:Go to Mars and make Trump pay for it. ;)


Send Trump to Mars?


No! Never. The hell we're gonna let Trump be the man every history book in the future will talk about when going over one of humanity's greatest milestones.
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