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by North Arkana » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:07 pm
by Rustyal » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:19 pm
by Higher Japan » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:31 pm
North Arkana wrote:I assume we're talking about changing the triple 155mm guns to double 203mm guns, because changing a double 203mm mounting which was also compatible with a triple 15mm mounting into one which takes triple 203mm mounts would require disassembly and reconstruction of the hull itself. It's less aremodel and more a complete rebuild.
Rustyal wrote:So, bit of some bad news.
Kraicia, a compadre of ours, has had a face to face encounter with mother nature herself. Basically, the Northern California fires enveloped his home [presumably, from fire maps], and now he doesn't have a roof over his head or good coverage. He's gonna be inable to do things on the forum for a while, but from what I got from the DMs, he's gonna do his best to get a post up. Probably gonna end up with some other family members, otherwise, quote, "I'll work my fingers to the bone to get me and my family another home." So... Yeah. I'm wishing him the best of luck, maybe you guys should send him some luck too. I dunno.
TL;DR Kraicia can't respond for a while.
NOTICE: As of 14/10, the empress has officially been granted greater control of the government, including military and financial sectors. That is all, have a good day.
by The Selkie » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:38 am
North Arkana wrote:I'm getting increasingly triggered by the lack of links taking you to the actual apps...
Here, use these, please, it bothers me.
Horizon
Leopard
Abgrund
Ahrgen Point
Rustyal wrote:So, bit of some bad news.
Kraicia, a compadre of ours, has had a face to face encounter with mother nature herself. Basically, the Northern California fires enveloped his home [presumably, from fire maps], and now he doesn't have a roof over his head or good coverage. He's gonna be inable to do things on the forum for a while, but from what I got from the DMs, he's gonna do his best to get a post up. Probably gonna end up with some other family members, otherwise, quote, "I'll work my fingers to the bone to get me and my family another home." So... Yeah. I'm wishing him the best of luck, maybe you guys should send him some luck too. I dunno.
TL;DR Kraicia can't respond for a while.
Higher Japan wrote:Armament changes:
155 mm cannons switched with 203 mm cannons, classification still the same.
Seaplane catapult added, depth charges now removed and 1 scout plane carried (Type 0 recon seaplane)
Two long range air radars added, meaning that he will now have a headband that covers his ears
Note that after this remodel, and it should be him since he's the one currently stuck so apologies, he will then be called 'Higashikawa' so that it will be easier for identification.
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by North Arkana » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:43 am
by The Selkie » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:48 am
North Arkana wrote:Except that I've made multiple edits to condense things in my apps, like adding in the different aircraft in spoilers and such, and correcting some discrepancies in technical specifications that would not have functioned aboard an actual vessel, so the links in your apps just lead to outdated versions, which will just result in headaches later down the line.
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by Higher Japan » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:49 am
NOTICE: As of 14/10, the empress has officially been granted greater control of the government, including military and financial sectors. That is all, have a good day.
by North Arkana » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:50 am
by The Selkie » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:57 am
North Arkana wrote:What, adding in extra information like the stat blocks for aircraft and making sure everything you meant to list on the app is there is shady to you?
Higher Japan wrote:I would be fine with the time skip now, although i'd still like to have the remodel as soon as possible.
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by North Arkana » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:29 am
by The Selkie » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:44 am
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by Higher Japan » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:44 am
NOTICE: As of 14/10, the empress has officially been granted greater control of the government, including military and financial sectors. That is all, have a good day.
by The Selkie » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:04 am
Higher Japan wrote:I realized that everyone only ate one meal on the first day.
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by Sleet Clans » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:12 am
by The Selkie » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:15 am
Sleet Clans wrote:Do the Kanmusu come into this world built or summoned?
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:47 pm
Technical Data
Displacement: 17k tons
Length (overall): 200 meters
Width: 20 meters
Draught: 5 meters
Propulsion: 4 shaft, geared steam turbines (350,000 shp)
Speed: 33 knots
Complement: 1,100 officers and enlisted
Armament:8 (4 twin turrets) 203mm 55 caliber Pattern 1935 guns
Armour:
10 (10 single turrets) 130 mm/50 B13 Pattern 1936 dual-purpose guns
14 (14 single mount) 85mm M1939 (52-K) air defense guns
20 (10 twin mounts) 37mm M1939 (61-K) automatic air defense guns
24 25mm M1940 (72-K) automatic air defense guns
8 (2 quad) 21 inch torpedo tubesBelt: 100mm
Notes: carries 3 Beriev Be-2 recon floatplanes
Deck: 60mm
Turrets: 100mm
by The Selkie » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:53 pm
Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:Here's... my third app, still no IC posts. I'll post IC soon I swear, I just lost the post because I had to reboot my computer.Yes, I know the Tsar became the Emperor in 1721 with Peter the Great, Tsar is more distinctly Russian than Emperor.
Name: Великий князь Кирилл (Velikiy Knyaz Kirill; Grand Duke Kirill)
Type: Cruiser
Class: Grand Duke Kirill-class cruiser
Role: Multirole Heavy Cruiser
Nation of origin: Empire of Vserossiya
Year commissioned: 1940
Image or description of the ship girl/boy: She can kill you faster than you can eat Tsardines out of a Raspu-tin.
Gender: Female
Character: Vaguely haughty, Kirill is a firm patriot. She is confident in her own abilities, but holds no illusions about holding her own against a battleship. That does not mean she will not make fun of Bolshevik warships. Refined in her own way, but does enjoy smashing some enemies of the Tsar.
Special abilities: DAKKADAKKADAKKA. Seriously. Guns. Lots of guns. Beyond her 8 8-inchers, she has 10 5-inch guns that can each target something different, and, if things get super intimate/desperate, 14 smol 85mm guns. Still not enuff dakka though.
Technical Description of the vessel: The Grand Duke Kirill-class cruiser was the result of the sweeping naval reforms conducted during the 1930s as Vserossiya reemerged as a global power. Amidst these massive reforms to both the shipbuilding industry and the naval structure itself, three distinct schools of thought emerged as to what the nature of the navy should be. The plan championed by Admiral Kirill Vladimirovich, Grand Duke of Russia, cousin of the late Nicholas II, was a proponent for a focus on battleships and heavy cruisers, favoring traditional "fleet in being" doctrine. Meanwhile, the plan championed by Hero of Vladivostok Admiral Alexander Kolchak proposed a focus on lighter ships, destroyers and light cruisers, saying that there was simply no way Vserossiya could possibly catch up in the battleship race. The final school of thought was championed by the up-and-coming Rear Admiral Nikolay Kuznetsov, the "Peasant Admiral", proposed a focus on the new technology of aircraft carriers and a further investment into naval aviation and anti-aircraft defense, backing up his claims by the general reliability of the aircraft carrier Izmail that had been converted from the hull of a battlecruiser in the late 20s following nearly a decade of delay on the part of the actual construction of the battlecruiser. In the end, while Kolchak's plan, being the most practical, would be the one most implemented, some of Kirill's proposed battleship fleet would be constructed, as would 3 new carriers (1 for the Baltic Sea and 2 for the Pacific).
Grand Duke Kirill and the Pacific Fleet were quickly sidelined with the Axis Powers' invasion of Vserossiya in 1941. 2 years later, in September of 1943, several border skirmishes along the Halha River between Japanese and Vserossiyan forces led to a declaration of war between the Empire of Japan and the Empire of Vserossiya. The Vserossiyan Pacific Fleet and the IJN 5th Fleet would engage each other for the remainder of the war. Grand Duke Kirill became the newly-reassigned Admiral Alexander Kolchak's flagship in November. She would go on to serve in most battles of the Second Vserossiyan-Japanese War, often being taken on daring night raids by Kolchak. However, following the Battle of Leyte Gulf, a battle between the Americans and Japanese which resulted in the sinking of the Japanese super-battleship Musashi, the IJN sent her sister ship Yamato with the remaining destroyers of the 5th Fleet to attack Vladivostok and cripple the Russian Pacific Fleet's supply lines. Admiral Kolchak scrambled every ship at his disposal to halt the superbattleship. The brand-new battleship Imperator Aleksandr II, Grand Duke Kirill and 2 of her sister ships, supported by 7 destroyers, moved to intercept the task force. The intense naval battle that followed forced the scuttling of the Aleksandr II after it was crippled by fire from the Yamato. 3 more Vserossisyan destroyers and the cruiser Grand Duke Boris were either sunk or crippled beyond usefulness before sustained fire from the remaining ships and assistance from ground-based air forces (primarily flying the Ilyushin Il-4) finally crippled Yamato and forced the remaining Japanese vessels to scuttle the superbattleship and abandon the mission. Most of the surviving Vserossiyan vessels sustained at least some degree of damage. Kirill's finest hour would be the Second Battle of Tsushima, when she sank the Japanese heavy cruiser Nachi while breaking through the Tsushima Strait. She was damaged by a Kamikaze while bombarding Japanese positions in Port Arthur in March 1945. She was repaired in time to transport Admiral Kolchak to Tokyo Bay to observe the signing of the Japanese surrender aboard the American USS Missouri.
After the war, she would serve in the Pacific Fleet for the rest of her career. She was considered for remodel in 1960, but it was decided to turn her into a museum ship in Vladivostok. In celebration of the day when Vserossiya defeated Japan, it was decided she would fire a full main-gun broadside of blanks out into the sea once per year.Technical Data
Displacement: 17k tons
Length (overall): 200 meters
Width: 20 meters
Draught: 5 meters
Propulsion: 4 shaft, geared steam turbines (350,000 shp)
Speed: 33 knots
Complement: 1,100 officers and enlisted
Armament:8 (4 twin turrets) 203mm 55 caliber Pattern 1935 guns
Armour:
10 (10 single turrets) 130 mm/50 B13 Pattern 1936 dual-purpose guns
14 (14 single mount) 85mm M1939 (52-K) air defense guns
20 (10 twin mounts) 37mm M1939 (61-K) automatic air defense guns
24 25mm M1940 (72-K) automatic air defense guns
8 (2 quad) 21 inch torpedo tubesBelt: 100mm
Notes: carries 3 Beriev Be-2 recon floatplanes
Deck: 60mm
Turrets: 100mm
OOC-section:
RP-sample: I have sampled RPs in the past yes.
Have you read and understood the rules? Поднять якоря!
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:11 pm
The Selkie wrote:Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:Here's... my third app, still no IC posts. I'll post IC soon I swear, I just lost the post because I had to reboot my computer.Yes, I know the Tsar became the Emperor in 1721 with Peter the Great, Tsar is more distinctly Russian than Emperor.
Name: Великий князь Кирилл (Velikiy Knyaz Kirill; Grand Duke Kirill)
Type: Cruiser
Class: Grand Duke Kirill-class cruiser
Role: Multirole Heavy Cruiser
Nation of origin: Empire of Vserossiya
Year commissioned: 1940
Image or description of the ship girl/boy: She can kill you faster than you can eat Tsardines out of a Raspu-tin.
Gender: Female
Character: Vaguely haughty, Kirill is a firm patriot. She is confident in her own abilities, but holds no illusions about holding her own against a battleship. That does not mean she will not make fun of Bolshevik warships. Refined in her own way, but does enjoy smashing some enemies of the Tsar.
Special abilities: DAKKADAKKADAKKA. Seriously. Guns. Lots of guns. Beyond her 8 8-inchers, she has 10 5-inch guns that can each target something different, and, if things get super intimate/desperate, 14 smol 85mm guns. Still not enuff dakka though.
Technical Description of the vessel: The Grand Duke Kirill-class cruiser was the result of the sweeping naval reforms conducted during the 1930s as Vserossiya reemerged as a global power. Amidst these massive reforms to both the shipbuilding industry and the naval structure itself, three distinct schools of thought emerged as to what the nature of the navy should be. The plan championed by Admiral Kirill Vladimirovich, Grand Duke of Russia, cousin of the late Nicholas II, was a proponent for a focus on battleships and heavy cruisers, favoring traditional "fleet in being" doctrine. Meanwhile, the plan championed by Hero of Vladivostok Admiral Alexander Kolchak proposed a focus on lighter ships, destroyers and light cruisers, saying that there was simply no way Vserossiya could possibly catch up in the battleship race. The final school of thought was championed by the up-and-coming Rear Admiral Nikolay Kuznetsov, the "Peasant Admiral", proposed a focus on the new technology of aircraft carriers and a further investment into naval aviation and anti-aircraft defense, backing up his claims by the general reliability of the aircraft carrier Izmail that had been converted from the hull of a battlecruiser in the late 20s following nearly a decade of delay on the part of the actual construction of the battlecruiser. In the end, while Kolchak's plan, being the most practical, would be the one most implemented, some of Kirill's proposed battleship fleet would be constructed, as would 3 new carriers (1 for the Baltic Sea and 2 for the Pacific).
Grand Duke Kirill and the Pacific Fleet were quickly sidelined with the Axis Powers' invasion of Vserossiya in 1941. 2 years later, in September of 1943, several border skirmishes along the Halha River between Japanese and Vserossiyan forces led to a declaration of war between the Empire of Japan and the Empire of Vserossiya. The Vserossiyan Pacific Fleet and the IJN 5th Fleet would engage each other for the remainder of the war. Grand Duke Kirill became the newly-reassigned Admiral Alexander Kolchak's flagship in November. She would go on to serve in most battles of the Second Vserossiyan-Japanese War, often being taken on daring night raids by Kolchak. However, following the Battle of Leyte Gulf, a battle between the Americans and Japanese which resulted in the sinking of the Japanese super-battleship Musashi, the IJN sent her sister ship Yamato with the remaining destroyers of the 5th Fleet to attack Vladivostok and cripple the Russian Pacific Fleet's supply lines. Admiral Kolchak scrambled every ship at his disposal to halt the superbattleship. The brand-new battleship Imperator Aleksandr II, Grand Duke Kirill and 2 of her sister ships, supported by 7 destroyers, moved to intercept the task force. The intense naval battle that followed forced the scuttling of the Aleksandr II after it was crippled by fire from the Yamato. 3 more Vserossisyan destroyers and the cruiser Grand Duke Boris were either sunk or crippled beyond usefulness before sustained fire from the remaining ships and assistance from ground-based air forces (primarily flying the Ilyushin Il-4) finally crippled Yamato and forced the remaining Japanese vessels to scuttle the superbattleship and abandon the mission. Most of the surviving Vserossiyan vessels sustained at least some degree of damage. Kirill's finest hour would be the Second Battle of Tsushima, when she sank the Japanese heavy cruiser Nachi while breaking through the Tsushima Strait. She was damaged by a Kamikaze while bombarding Japanese positions in Port Arthur in March 1945. She was repaired in time to transport Admiral Kolchak to Tokyo Bay to observe the signing of the Japanese surrender aboard the American USS Missouri.
After the war, she would serve in the Pacific Fleet for the rest of her career. She was considered for remodel in 1960, but it was decided to turn her into a museum ship in Vladivostok. In celebration of the day when Vserossiya defeated Japan, it was decided she would fire a full main-gun broadside of blanks out into the sea once per year.Technical Data
Displacement: 17k tons
Length (overall): 200 meters
Width: 20 meters
Draught: 5 meters
Propulsion: 4 shaft, geared steam turbines (350,000 shp)
Speed: 33 knots
Complement: 1,100 officers and enlisted
Armament:8 (4 twin turrets) 203mm 55 caliber Pattern 1935 guns
Armour:
10 (10 single turrets) 130 mm/50 B13 Pattern 1936 dual-purpose guns
14 (14 single mount) 85mm M1939 (52-K) air defense guns
20 (10 twin mounts) 37mm M1939 (61-K) automatic air defense guns
24 25mm M1940 (72-K) automatic air defense guns
8 (2 quad) 21 inch torpedo tubesBelt: 100mm
Notes: carries 3 Beriev Be-2 recon floatplanes
Deck: 60mm
Turrets: 100mm
OOC-section:
RP-sample: I have sampled RPs in the past yes.
Have you read and understood the rules? Поднять якоря!
It's no problem, she's accepted - if I may ask, does she wear the uniform in everyday life?
by North Arkana » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:16 pm
by Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:22 pm
North Arkana wrote:Your ship is a dakka imposter
Only 8 guns, it only beats the York, Aoba, and Furutaka class in main battery among 8 inch gun armed cruisers.
by North Arkana » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:21 pm
by Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:40 pm
by Novaya Equestria » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:05 pm
The Selkie wrote:New Antonalia wrote:Sorry I wasn't able to get a post up today, things were a tad bit hectic around my place. I'll try to get one up tomorrow.
It's no problem - RL is more important.Higher Japan wrote:Actually i've forgotten at this point, might have to kai one of them and pull a Italia to fix this. give me a minute while i calibrate my thoughts.
Yeah, apparently i've mixed them up, permission to do a kai aka remodel and change the name for the sake of convenience.
The cruiser is burning is all i can say at this point.
Okay, just give me the new numbers and equipment, basically the app's statblock, again for after the upgrade(s) and you can basically consider them approved - barring, of course, if there's something seriously wrong with them.
I'll also change my post in a moment, if you don't mind.Novaya Equestria wrote:2 x 10.5 cm (4.1 in) SK C/33 guns
2 x 3.7 cm (1.5 in) SK C/30 guns
2 x 2 cm (0.79 in) SK C/30 guns
4 x 5 in/38 caliber guns
2 x quad 1.1"/75 caliber guns
12 × .50 Cal machine guns
These number of guns is the result of the Novayan Confederation Admiralty thinking what would happen if they attached naval anti aircraft guns into the Novaya. The result is this.
NE, are these the numbers in addition to what is already mounted onto the boy or the new complete armament? Because if it is in addition, Novaya should consider moving into the Cruiser Dorm - if it is a his new complete armament, then he needs a buff to his AA-capabilities.
While we are talking about upgrades and remodels...Please keep in mind, that this is not yet official, but a proposal. As such, it might be subject to change, especially with the input from you guys.
A few general things first:Even when upgraded, the technological limitations are still in place. Everything, that was in service by 1950 or in prototype status (for example aircraft having flown for the first time, but not yet in service), is permitted as upgrades. However, please keep it reasonable. Still nothing nuclear, though.
Major remodels, that change for example a battleship to a fast battleship, are permitted, but will consume a lot of time and ressources. Despite any wishes by destroyers, though, a destroyer can not turn into a battleship, so please keep it reasonable.
Please keep in mind, that remodels may change the personality of a character - they don't have to, but they can.
To apply for a remodel or upgrades, you need the permission of the flagship, whoever that will turn out to be, on the IC-thread AND have to give your proposed upgrades for peer review here. It's not an application process, like at the start, but a small review. Upgrades and remodels are voluntarily and can not be ordered.
How will it work?I mentioned ressources. Those will be gathered by expeditions, which may find ammunition, steel, bauxite, fuel and "equipment modules" (for example 40mm AA-guns) and items (such as Instant Repair Buckets and Repair Buckets) - this is, what we need for running operations as well as for upgrades and remodels. Step one, therefore, is finding them.
Stept two is assessing the costs of an upgrade/remodel. These are comprised of ressources needed as well as equipment modules needed. Let's say, for example, that an upgrade entails more AA-guns on a vessel, so we'd need a few AA-guns and a small amount of ressources.You might already noticed, that I differed between "Upgrades" and "Remodels". That is with a reason, as they are two different things. Upgrades are small modifications, for example additional AA-guns, new radar and so on, they are cheap, easy to do and relatively fast. Remodels, on the other hand, change the ship boy or girl completely, are expensive, extensive and take a lot of time, as the entire vessel is, in fact, remodelled to fit a new role and type, for example a carrier wanting to try out being a battleship for whatever reason would be such a remodel.
Once the requirements for ressources and modules are collected, the process can start. During that time, your character is free to interact with other people, but he or she will not sortie for that time. Upgrades will be done within an afternoon, but the more complex a remodel is, the longer it will take. That is step three.
Step four is profit.
So... thoughts?
by Parcia » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:11 pm
by Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:30 pm
Parcia wrote:I remember, in an old regional rp, i needed an AA ship to defend Rome, so i took what was essentially a repurposed USS Arizona and stuck as many 5 inch guns as I could on this, then partially sunk it, up armored it, and gave it twin linked search radar.
Came to...21, dual five inch guns turrets.
Stripped out the engines, boilers, anything uneeded and filled it with 5 inch shell storage
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